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ziaulislam

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I dare you to try criticizing armed forces in western worlds. You will be arrested immediately.

Not to mention, mockery on Judaism especially in related to holocaust is marked for hate crimes.

Nevertheless, first world nation prohibits any criticism on armed forces. That is the laws. I suggest you reread my posts.
We talk shit about them every day in USA and Europe.
Not sure which western country are you talking about
 

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I dare you to try criticizing armed forces in western worlds. You will be arrested immediately.

Nevertheless, first world nation prohibits any criticism on armed forces. That is the laws. I suggest you reread my posts.

Judging from this guy's claims about nowhere in the first world it's allowed to question armed forces, To all the members going hard at this guy, I am quite sure he is just a kid going through the prepubescent phase when every Pakistani loves the army unquestionably. They think armies around the world behave the same as our establishment. and establishment is unflinchingly patriotic and not to be questioned at all.

So go easy on him, we've all been there. We used to think like that. In all our precious innocence. Those were the days, no? The lines were drawn. You knew who was on your side and who you were fighting against.
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I dare you to try criticizing armed forces in western worlds. You will be arrested immediately.

Not to mention, mockery on Judaism especially in related to holocaust is marked for hate crimes.

Nevertheless, first world nation prohibits any criticism on armed forces. That is the laws. I suggest you reread my posts.

Please do tell where in the western world military run businesses or they interfere in politics or there generals get extensions or their generals meet ambassadors of other countries.

Not to mention flying drones from their own country and kill their own citizen or imposing martial law and then living in foreign country after being dethroned.

Their generals talk to their lawmakers in open sessions not "in-camera" and they are answerable to elected officials and civilian secretaries and are not like self declared pharaohs.
 

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I am not talking about PDM or Imran khan. It is about main establishments whether it is good or bad reasons but it is one of those reasons that kept Pakistan at bay from the reach of enemies. And to ensure that the enemies funded factors have no control over Pakistan politics.
Bruh , read what you wrote and then read it again. Let’s clear one thing, Establishment = Army chief and his fellow generals. There is no league of secret men making decisions to protect Pakistan.

Their job is to protect Pakistan from foreign enemies funded factors???????
They are themselves to busy creating them. MQM , TLP , PML N and PML Q are their bastards. Mulana Diesel received funding from Libya , NGO’s operating in Pakistan are all foreign funded with an agenda. But these guys are too busy trying to ruin the country they took an oath to protect.

Not sure which foreign funded secret mission they protected us from? Our nuclear weapons? They are useless anyways. The real power is democratic stability with economic development and growth. Law and order which bring equality and improve outlook of a country.

Majority of the Pakistanis are willing to leave the country if given a chance and you say establishment has long term goals.
I think I know what that goal is, rename Pakistan to DHA.

It is about long term goal which is in place for years regardless whether it is puppets like khan or sharif. At the end, main establishments call the shot and keep the powers within the reasons.

Long term goal you say?? Which long term goal has ever been achieved? Education? Economy? Border protection? Law and order? Basic human rights?

And Khan is a puppet like Nawaz?

One guy and his family stole billions, introduced corruption to every single institution in the country and is backed by Army chief.

The other,
Improved economy, increased exports. Introduced Ehsas program to help people in need, emphasized on educated and wanted to prosecute the corrupt. Wanted to bring merit to every institution so they work for the people. His government was dissolved by corrupt politicians and with the help of army chief = establishment. Name one thing he has said in his speeches that you feel will have a negative impact on Pakistan.


And it happens all over the worlds. Only different is that Pakistan establishments go overboard openly which doesn’t help with the image. Whereas the rest of first worlds run operation with perception misleading nations thinking it is civilians that run the nation. That is not the case. And that is why American election are compromised and vulnerable to collapse.
It doesn’t happen all over the world. All over the world you have think tanks that constantly look for their country betterment. They advise their government how and which country to engage. Their end goal never changes, which is country before everyone.

People of USA voted Trump out, they didn’t like his handling of Covid and his idiotic policies. You can believe in which ever conspiracy you want.
 

ziaulislam

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Bruh , read what you wrote and then read it again. Let’s clear one thing, Establishment = Army chief and his fellow generals. There is no league of secret men making decisions to protect Pakistan.

Their job is to protect Pakistan from foreign enemies funded factors???????
They are themselves to busy creating them. MQM , TLP , PML N and PML Q are their bastards. Mulana Diesel received funding from Libya , NGO’s operating in Pakistan are all foreign funded with an agenda. But these guys are too busy trying to ruin the country they took an oath to protect.

Not sure which foreign funded secret mission they protected us from? Our nuclear weapons? They are useless anyways. The real power is democratic stability with economic development and growth. Law and order which bring equality and improve outlook of a country.

Majority of the Pakistanis are willing to leave the country if given a chance and you say establishment has long term goals.
I think I know what that goal is, rename Pakistan to DHA.



Long term goal you say?? Which long term goal has ever been achieved? Education? Economy? Border protection? Law and order? Basic human rights?

And Khan is a puppet like Nawaz?

One guy and his family stole billions, introduced corruption to every single institution in the country and is backed by Army chief.

The other,
Improved economy, increased exports. Introduced Ehsas program to help people in need, emphasized on educated and wanted to prosecute the corrupt. Wanted to bring merit to every institution so they work for the people. His government was dissolved by corrupt politicians and with the help of army chief = establishment. Name one thing he has said in his speeches that you feel will have a negative impact on Pakistan.



It doesn’t happen all over the world. All over the world you have think tanks that constantly look for their country betterment. They advise their government how and which country to engage. Their end goal never changes, which is country before everyone.

People of USA voted Trump out, they didn’t like his handling of Covid and his idiotic policies. You can believe in which ever conspiracy you want.
If you look at China.
Generals can't leave country after retirement.
There kids can't study outside

Unless these two are mandated and income beyond means is checked then this will happen.

I won't be surprised if the nuclear weapons are already sold and it's just a drama
 

PakFactor

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That is different story in regards to powers and authority figures but even with the civilian in powers, criticizing on armed forces is considered offence amount to treason.

Pakistan army is generally very lenient in amidst of endless hate smear campaigns.


Like who? People criticize the government and the decision of the government as the armed forces are run by the civilian governments. Other than that, you cannot criticize armed forces in person. It is laws in place to prevent from demoralizing the moral support of armed forces regardless of whether it is political justifiable or not.


That is mistake. Armed forces interfere behind the scenes. And so do lots of influential figures. It is called election.

Whereas Pakistan establishments tend to overwhelm with stupidity sometimes - well, most of times in the last few years lately. 🤦‍♂️


The examples was based on first world nation which includes USA. Don’t be stupid with anti-armed forced remarks.

I’m an American citizen and I am guaranteed the right to criticize the US Armed Forces expect for picking up a weapon and firing on them. There are pics of Americans protesting and holding placards calling US Solders “baby killers” and others saying “Thank God for dead soldiers”. Many returning Vets from Vietnam were spat on and cursed at, including upper command, and nothing happened.

So do not compare 1st world with 3rd world shit hole forces like Pak Army and it's laws. The beauty of the US and the West is they absorb criticism and better themselves; hence these societies advance.

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Fascist & Dictatorial Army General Bajwa must be getting really desperate. This fat fellow and his Generals are disgusting.
 

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why not ? Is the army above the law ?
@HRK why negative rating ? Is army above the law ?

Army cannot be critisizied for service to the nation but what if they start doing something for personal benefits ? Even then they cant be critisized ? Why ?

Furthermore no one is critisizing army but few individuals

I dare you to try criticizing armed forces in western worlds. You will be arrested immediately.

Not to mention, mockery on Judaism especially in related to holocaust is marked for hate crimes.

Nevertheless, first world nation prohibits any criticism on armed forces. That is the laws. I suggest you reread my posts.
Give reference to the laws ..

Apparently u dont read any international newspaper ... Armed forces cheifs are grilled to extreme level in congress hearing and u r telling us they r untouchable
 
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I’m an American citizen and I am guaranteed the right to criticize the US Armed Forces expect for picking up a weapon and firing on them. There are pics of Americans protesting and holding placards calling US Solders “baby killers” and others saying “Thank God for dead soldiers”. Many returning Vets from Vietnam were spat on and cursed at, including upper command, and nothing happened.

So do not compare 1st world with 3rd world shit hole forces like Pak Army and it's laws. The beauty of the US and the West is they absorb criticism and better themselves; hence these societies advance.

@ziaulislam
Protesting and criticism are very different. There is reason why certain comments which defines as criticism is considered as hate crime which exists in USA.

@HRK why negative rating ? Is army above the law ?

Army cannot be critisizied for service to the nation but what if they start doing something for personal benefits ? Even then they cant be critisized ? Why ?

Furthermore no one is critisizing army but few individuals


Give reference to the laws ..

Apparently u dont read any international newspaper ... Armed forces cheifs are grilled to extreme level in congress hearing and u r telling us they r untouchable
Hearing and criticism are not same. Just like protest and criticism that fuels the provoking are not same.

You can protest but you cannot criticize to some levels as you can in Pakistan and have been for years.

Bruh , read what you wrote and then read it again. Let’s clear one thing, Establishment = Army chief and his fellow generals. There is no league of secret men making decisions to protect Pakistan.

Their job is to protect Pakistan from foreign enemies funded factors???????
They are themselves to busy creating them. MQM , TLP , PML N and PML Q are their bastards. Mulana Diesel received funding from Libya , NGO’s operating in Pakistan are all foreign funded with an agenda. But these guys are too busy trying to ruin the country they took an oath to protect.

Not sure which foreign funded secret mission they protected us from? Our nuclear weapons? They are useless anyways. The real power is democratic stability with economic development and growth. Law and order which bring equality and improve outlook of a country.

Majority of the Pakistanis are willing to leave the country if given a chance and you say establishment has long term goals.
I think I know what that goal is, rename Pakistan to DHA.



Long term goal you say?? Which long term goal has ever been achieved? Education? Economy? Border protection? Law and order? Basic human rights?

And Khan is a puppet like Nawaz?

One guy and his family stole billions, introduced corruption to every single institution in the country and is backed by Army chief.

The other,
Improved economy, increased exports. Introduced Ehsas program to help people in need, emphasized on educated and wanted to prosecute the corrupt. Wanted to bring merit to every institution so they work for the people. His government was dissolved by corrupt politicians and with the help of army chief = establishment. Name one thing he has said in his speeches that you feel will have a negative impact on Pakistan.



It doesn’t happen all over the world. All over the world you have think tanks that constantly look for their country betterment. They advise their government how and which country to engage. Their end goal never changes, which is country before everyone.

People of USA voted Trump out, they didn’t like his handling of Covid and his idiotic policies. You can believe in which ever conspiracy you want.
People voted for Trump hijacked by the choice of main establishments to compromise the vulnerable position of USA. USA is fast becoming sinking ship.

Pakistan army is most dedicated that has been able to make efforts to somehow keep the sinking ship from being sunk whereas American politician system is sinking usa big time.

Bruh , read what you wrote and then read it again. Let’s clear one thing, Establishment = Army chief and his fellow generals. There is no league of secret men making decisions to protect Pakistan.

Their job is to protect Pakistan from foreign enemies funded factors???????
They are themselves to busy creating them. MQM , TLP , PML N and PML Q are their bastards. Mulana Diesel received funding from Libya , NGO’s operating in Pakistan are all foreign funded with an agenda. But these guys are too busy trying to ruin the country they took an oath to protect.

Not sure which foreign funded secret mission they protected us from? Our nuclear weapons? They are useless anyways. The real power is democratic stability with economic development and growth. Law and order which bring equality and improve outlook of a country.

Majority of the Pakistanis are willing to leave the country if given a chance and you say establishment has long term goals.
I think I know what that goal is, rename Pakistan to DHA.



Long term goal you say?? Which long term goal has ever been achieved? Education? Economy? Border protection? Law and order? Basic human rights?

And Khan is a puppet like Nawaz?

One guy and his family stole billions, introduced corruption to every single institution in the country and is backed by Army chief.

The other,
Improved economy, increased exports. Introduced Ehsas program to help people in need, emphasized on educated and wanted to prosecute the corrupt. Wanted to bring merit to every institution so they work for the people. His government was dissolved by corrupt politicians and with the help of army chief = establishment. Name one thing he has said in his speeches that you feel will have a negative impact on Pakistan.



It doesn’t happen all over the world. All over the world you have think tanks that constantly look for their country betterment. They advise their government how and which country to engage. Their end goal never changes, which is country before everyone.

People of USA voted Trump out, they didn’t like his handling of Covid and his idiotic policies. You can believe in which ever conspiracy you want.
Argument is one thing and I am not justifying anything. But main establishments has reasons given the history as to why they are controlling the narrative to keep the situation under control.
 

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@HRK why negative rating ? Is army above the law ?

Army cannot be critisizied for service to the nation but what if they start doing something for personal benefits ? Even then they cant be critisized ? Why ?
He is a Pajeet with negative 50 plus rating and his posting history is for everyone to see or you need screenshots, he shouldn't even be allowed here in our issues, forget you not wanting him to be negative rated after talking shit about our army

Thank you @HRK, you're not blinded by your political views unlike some
Furthermore no one is critisizing army but few individuals


Give reference to the laws ..

Apparently u dont read any international newspaper ... Armed forces cheifs are grilled to extreme level in congress hearing and u r telling us they r untouchable
 

ziaulislam

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Protesting and criticism are very different. There is reason why certain comments which defines as criticism is considered as hate crime which exists in USA.


Hearing and criticism are not same. Just like protest and criticism that fuels the provoking are not same.

You can protest but you cannot criticize to some levels as you can in Pakistan and have been for years.


People voted for Trump hijacked by the choice of main establishments to compromise the vulnerable position of USA. USA is fast becoming sinking ship.

Pakistan army is most dedicated that has been able to make efforts to somehow keep the sinking ship from being sunk whereas American politician system is sinking usa big time.


Argument is one thing and I am not justifying anything. But main establishments has reasons given the history as to why they are controlling the narrative to keep the situation under control.
No they don't .don't make up stuff from your ***.

As it will smell like
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In Europe denying the existence of mass killings of Jews may be considered as hate crime but that's not a crime in USA
 

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