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Interesting documentary, among other things they say "arab countries would self-destruct without US involvement".

US is less than 250 years old.

Arabs ruled most of the Muslim world (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid, Al-Andalus) from 632 until 1517. Almost 1000 years.

Created the largest empire in history back then (only Mongol and British was bigger in history) stretching from France to China.

Ages before USA, UK and almost every Western European country even existed.

The cradle of civilization is the Arab world. Home to the oldest civilizations and cities on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization

The US has hurt the Arab world more than any other area of the Muslim world. Iraq is the only Muslim nation that the US has waged 2 wars against.

The US is home to 3.5 million successful Arab-Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_Americans

Most likely another wonderful propaganda piece. Just like Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons and weapons of mass-destruction.:lol:
 
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The history of the US is a joke in comparison.

10 out of 45 World UNESCO Heritage Sites in Spain (the country with the third most World Heritage Sites in the world) have full Arab/Moorish/Islamic heritage or partial Arab/Moorish/Islamic heritage. 900 years of Arab rule of most of Spain and Portugal.

Historic Walled Town of Cuenca (city name of Arabic origin):



Historic Centre of Córdoba (city name of Arabic origin):



Alhambra, Generalife and Albayzín (all names of Arabic origin)




Old Town of Ávila with its Extra-Muros Churches




Mudéjar Architecture of Aragon



Historic City of Toledo




Old City of Salamanca




Cathedral, Alcázar and Archivo de Indias in Seville (city name of Arabic origin)



Old Town of Cáceres (city name of Arabic origin)



Palmeral of Elche (biggest palm grove in Europe - planted originally by the Semitic Phoneicians but Arabs later expanded it) (City name of Arabic origin once again)



List of World Heritage Sites in Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The most famous Arab/Moorish/Islamic heritage site in Spain/most visited heritage site is Alhambra which means "The Red Castle" in Arabic. It is located in Granada, Andalusia.

http://www.spain-holiday.com/Granad...st-visited-site-the-regal-alhambra-in-granada


Here are two excellent documentaries about Al-Andalus.


There are of course many other heritage sites but they are not admitted to the list of World UNESCO Heritage Sites. Yet that is. Some might in the future.

Over 1/4 of the current-day vocabulary of Spanish used on a daily basis derives from Arabic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_language

Arabic/Moorish/Islamic culture influenced Spain on many fronts. Influences seen to this very day in the language, cuisine, architecture, traditions, music etc. Meanwhile the same Spain later influenced Latin America greatly which is why Latin America is influenced by Arabic/Islamic culture likewise, aside from the 30 million Latin Americans of Arab origin. The largest Arab diaspora in the world. Same story with Portugal and its colonies.

Lastly many people seem to equal Al-Andalus with Spain but they often forget that Portugal was there as well and Southern Portugal was probably as influenced as Southern Spain. Genetically as well as confirmed by DNA results of today.

Over 20 000 Arabic words in the Portuguese language… : Muslim in the Midst…

http://www.transeuropeennes.eu/ressources/pdfs/TIM_2011_Arabic_Portuguese_Catarina_BELO_114.pdf

"One contemporary translator from Arabic into Portuguese, Adalberto Alves, is currently compiling a list of Portuguese words of Arabic origin and has found more than twenty thousand of them. This fruitful interaction between the two languages led to a linguistic phenomenon which arose in the medieval period called aljamiado, whereby Portuguese was written in Arabic characters. This medieval period could be seen as a first phase of the interaction between the Portuguese and the Arabic languages."


Al-Garb Al-Andalus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Aljamiado - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia







Lisbon – an Arab city in the heart of Europe | Syria News Wire

Portugal | History | Islam | GlobalPost

Sadly this very detailed lecture (almost 2 hours long) from Casa Árabe is without English subtitles.

A leading Spanish professor in Al-Andalus talks about all the topics I have mentioned and many more. For 2 hours.


US is just a mixture of migrants from across the world. It is no real country.

50 million Americans are starving. 30 million African-Americans. 50 + million Latinos. And KFC and McDonalds.

They are already on the retreat ever since 1991.

They had their 100 years of glory. This century or certainly the next will belong to Asia.
 

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This is quite amazing though. Have to admit.


We must also thank the Americans for discovering the real Mount Sinai in KSA.



Very, very scared.


What Arab Empire stretched to “China”? lol
Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talas

Don't be too sad my Ethiopian friend. Please take your drug addicts and low-skilled labour back home. Thank you in advance.


You rapists were dealt with well though.


We don't want such people around.

Come at me bro.



You can do such things in the West without being countered by anyone. In KSA you risk getting killed by locals if you try to rape and murder locals and run rampant like I don't know what. I like Habesha WOMEN but not criminals.
 
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Oh Boy, here we go again about GRAND BEST OF THE BEST arabic history and achievements.

Always same people posting long posts with pictures on any thread distantly related to "arabs".

Sharif al-hijaz, saif al-arab, and that canadian and one more, I think it's one person using multiple accounts and proxy.

For Gods sake, this thread is about USA, no one asked about how GREAAAAAT arab history is! :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 

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Oh Boy, here we go again about GRAND BEST OF THE BEST arabic history and achievements.

Always same people posting long posts with pictures on any thread distantly related to "arabs".

Sharif al-hijaz, saif al-arab, and that canadian and one more, I think it's one person using multiple accounts and proxy.

For Gods sake, this thread is about USA, no one asked about how GREAAAAAT arab history is! :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:


You mentioned Arabs in your post while they probably mention Arabs 1 or 2 times in that 90 minute long propaganda video.

Fact is that the US has done more harm against Arabs than any other region of the Muslim world. They are not good for anything by large outside of the educational cooperation. Their governments are supporting Arab regimes. Playing double games. You should know as a Turk. The popularity of the US is at an all-time low in Turkey too. I know because my Turkish bros tell me in person.

BTW what is the cost of m2 in Alanya nowadays bro?
 

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His job should be writing long novel series like Twilight.
Oh Boy, here we go again about GRAND BEST OF THE BEST arabic history and achievements.

Always same people posting long posts with pictures on any thread distantly related to "arabs".

Sharif al-hijaz, saif al-arab, and that canadian and one more, I think it's one person using multiple accounts and proxy.

For Gods sake, this thread is about USA, no one asked about how GREAAAAAT arab history is! :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 
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His ob should be writing long novel series like Twilight.
I am in the process of writing a book actually as a side hobby. Will tell when I publish it. It's about chemical engineering though. I would like to write a book based on a historical period. The pre-history of Arabia for instance I find incredibly fascinating. I would have to read many more books and articles though to expand my knowledge. I always liked to write. I have it from my mother.

What is Twilight?

BTW a bit of trolling from time to time (harmless) does not hurt. Got no problem with Ethiopians or Somalians, other than the criminals who of course are a problem. Not a racist.

Just read this earlier today. British people 10.000 years ago (Europeans) were Black. Whites from the Middle East and Anatolia (Neolithic farmers) were the first White people in the world. Serious here.

Read it yourself. BBC.

Cheddar Man: DNA shows early Briton had dark skin
By Paul RinconScience editor, BBC News website
  • 7 February 2018


Media captionDNA shows early Brit had dark skin
A cutting-edge scientific analysis shows that a Briton from 10,000 years ago had dark brown skin and blue eyes.

Researchers from London's Natural History Museum extracted DNA from Cheddar Man, Britain's oldest complete skeleton, which was discovered in 1903.

University College London researchers then used the subsequent genome analysis for a facial reconstruction.

It underlines the fact that the lighter skin characteristic of modern Europeans is a relatively recent phenomenon.

No prehistoric Briton of this age had previously had their genome analysed.

As such, the analysis provides valuable new insights into the first people to resettle Britain after the last Ice Age.

The analysis of Cheddar Man's genome - the "blueprint" for a human, contained in the nuclei of our cells - will be published in a journal, and will also feature in the upcoming Channel 4 documentary The First Brit, Secrets Of The 10,000-year-old Man.

'Cheddar George' tweet on early Briton

Cheddar Man's remains had been unearthed 115 years ago in Gough's Cave, located in Somerset's Cheddar Gorge. Subsequent examination has shown that the man was short by today's standards - about 5ft 5in - and probably died in his early 20s.

Prof Chris Stringer, the museum's research leader in human origins, said: "I've been studying the skeleton of Cheddar Man for about 40 years

"So to come face-to-face with what this guy could have looked like - and that striking combination of the hair, the face, the eye colour and that dark skin: something a few years ago we couldn't have imagined and yet that's what the scientific data show."


Image captionA replica of Cheddar Man's skeleton now lies in Gough's Cave
Fractures on the surface of the skull suggest he may even have met his demise in a violent manner. It's not known how he came to lie in the cave, but it's possible he was placed there by others in his tribe.

The Natural History Museum researchers extracted the DNA from part of the skull near the ear known as the petrous. At first, project scientists Prof Ian Barnes and Dr Selina Brace weren't sure if they'd get any DNA at all from the remains.

But they were in luck: not only was DNA preserved, but Cheddar Man has since yielded the highest coverage (a measure of the sequencing accuracy) for a genome from this period of European prehistory - known as the Mesolithic, or Middle Stone Age.

They teamed up with researchers at University College London (UCL) to analyse the results, including gene variants associated with hair, eye and skin colour.

Extra mature Cheddar
They found the Stone Age Briton had dark hair - with a small probability that it was curlier than average - blue eyes and skin that was probably dark brown or black in tone.

This combination might appear striking to us today, but it was a common appearance in western Europe during this period.

Steven Clarke, director of the Channel Four documentary, said: "I think we all know we live in times where we are unusually preoccupied with skin pigmentation."

Prof Mark Thomas, a geneticist from UCL, said: "It becomes a part of our understanding, I think that would be a much, much better thing. I think it would be good if people lodge it in their heads, and it becomes a little part of their knowledge."

Unsurprisingly, the findings have generated lots of interest on social media.

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Cheddar Man's genome reveals he was closely related to other Mesolithic individuals - so-called Western Hunter-Gatherers - who have been analysed from Spain, Luxembourg and Hungary.

Dutch artists Alfons and Adrie Kennis, specialists in palaeontological model-making, took the genetic findings and combined them with physical measurements from scans of the skull. The result was a strikingly lifelike reconstruction of a face from our distant past.

Pale skin probably arrived in Britain with a migration of people from the Middle East around 6,000 years ago. This population had pale skin and brown eyes and absorbed populations like the ones Cheddar Man belonged to.


Image captionProf Chris Stringer had studied Cheddar Man for 40 years - but was struck by the Kennis brothers' reconstruction
No-one's entirely sure why pale skin evolved in these farmers, but their cereal-based diet was probably deficient in Vitamin D. This would have required agriculturalists to absorb this essential nutrient from sunlight through their skin.

"There may be other factors that are causing lower skin pigmentation over time in the last 10,000 years. But that's the big explanation that most scientists turn to," said Prof Thomas.

Boom and bust
The genomic results also suggest Cheddar Man could not drink milk as an adult. This ability only spread much later, after the onset of the Bronze Age.

Present-day Europeans owe on average 10% of their ancestry to Mesolithic hunters like Cheddar Man.

Britain has been something of a boom-and-bust story for humans over the last million-or-so years. Modern humans were here as early as 40,000 years ago, but a period of extreme cold known as the Last Glacial Maximum drove them out some 10,000 years later.

There's evidence from Gough's Cave that hunter-gatherers ventured back around 15,000 years ago, establishing a temporary presence when the climate briefly improved. However, they were soon sent packing by another cold snap. Cut marks on the bones suggest these people cannibalised their dead - perhaps as part of ritual practices.

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Image captionThe actual skull of Cheddar Man is kept in the Natural History Museum, seen being handled here by Ian Barnes
Britain was once again settled 11,000 years ago; and has been inhabited ever since. Cheddar Man was part of this wave of migrants, who walked across a landmass called Doggerland that, in those days, connected Britain to mainland Europe. This makes him the oldest known Briton with a direct connection to people living here today.

This is not the first attempt to analyse DNA from the Cheddar Man. In the late 1990s, Oxford University geneticist Brian Sykes sequenced mitochondrial DNA from one of Cheddar Man's molars.

Mitochondrial DNA comes from the biological "batteries" within our cells and is passed down exclusively from a mother to her children.

Prof Sykes compared the ancient genetic information with DNA from 20 living residents of Cheddar village and found two matches - including history teacher Adrian Targett, who became closely connected with the discovery. The result is consistent with the approximately 10% of Europeans who share the same mitochondrial DNA type.

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Most Europeans have African ancestry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe

Hell even we Arabs have some African admixture (5% on average - mostly our Afro-Arab lot but some of it is ancient). Guess we all have it since we are all from Africa originally apparently.
 
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You mentioned Arabs in your post while they probably mention Arabs 1 or 2 times in that 90 minute long propaganda video.

Fact is that the US has done more harm against Arabs than any other region of the Arab world. They are not good for anything by large outside of the educational cooperation. Their governments are supporting Arab regimes. Playing double games. You should know as a Turk. The popularity of the US is at an all-time low in Turkey too. I know because my Turkish bros tell me in person.

BTW what is the cost of m2 in Alanya nowadays bro?
Cheap housing prices now, if you are going to buy now is the time as tourism is picking up.

You can buy the same apartment for $26,000 USD or $260,000 USD.

So do your research well, even taxi drivers are "real estate experts" so don't tell people you are looking to buy, they will take advantage of you. Many dishonest in the real estate business here.

If you do buy something have a lawyer with you and witnesses, make sure all payment is digital no cash. Be very very careful. Even I have been tricked on rent alone and had to move.

All this bragging about ARAB BEST OF BEST BETTER THAN BEST, made me hungry I will now eat grilled European anchovy.



Delicious yumyum yum.
 

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Cheap housing prices now, if you are going to buy now is the time as tourism is picking up.

You can buy the same apartment for $26,000 USD or $260,000 USD.

So do your research well, even taxi drivers are "real estate experts" so don't tell people you are looking to buy, they will take advantage of you. Many dishonest in the real estate business here.

If you do buy something have a lawyer with you and witnesses, make sure all payment is digital no cash. Be very very careful. Even I have been tricked on rent alone and had to move.
Not looking to buy personally but my father has been thinking about buying a few apartments on the Turkish Rivera as an investment. He lived in Besiktas (Istanbul) as a small child in the 1960's due to my grandfather's work (diplomacy) for a few years. He has only been back once sine then. I am yet to visit Turkey myself but my siblings have visited (sisters as well as brothers). They liked it by large and they ventured into lesser known regions for tourists. They visited the border regions of Syria too. Urfa, Hatay etc.

My favorite Turkish cuisine is Adana kebab and Iskender kebab or as you say in Turkish kebap. Apparently Adana Kebab is some kind of Turkish-Arab fusion that was created during the Ottoman Empire.

I have always wondered about something. How is the coastline east of Alanya all the way to Adana and that part of Turkey? I know that the coastline (beaches) of Hatay in Turkey are quite nice from what I have seen, similar to neighboring Western Syria but that stretch from Alanya to Adana, is much less known.

For instance a place like Anamur? Is it only for locals? There are several areas in Spain too where mostly locals holiday. Foreigners do not know such places that well. Probably they exist more on that part of the Turkish Mediterranean coastline.

Me too pal. My book will be entitled:

ISIS = Iran:The Truth

I am going to sell it to the Persians.
That was harsh. BTW my anti-Iran sentiments are starting to slowly pass away for the time being. I am meeting more and more friendly Iranians in person (surprisingly) so other than the Mullah regime I have not much to say anymore. It's a tragedy. Not sure what I will do now. Need to start hating on Inuits or something.

@TurkeyForever speaking about seawater, since a portion of us Arabs live on the largest peninsula in the world (Arabian Peninsula) I can tell you that we do some amazing seafood as well. If you ever visit any Arab country as a tourist, you should definitely give our seafood a try rather than all those meat dishes (falafel, shawarma, kebab, mandi, kabsa etc.) Eating too much meat is not healthy either.
 
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