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The United States Did Draw Up A Plan To Drop 80 Nuclear Weapons On North Korea
In 2017, a war between North Korea and the United States was much “much closer than anyone would know,” President Trump claims.

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Current nuclear war plans are among any nuclear-armed military’s most closely guarded secrets. Details of one such attack plan recently became available, however, revealing that the United States envisaged using 80 nuclear weapons in case of war with North Korea. The way this particular detail emerged is also pretty unusual — the associated passage appeared in U.S. journalist Bob Woodward’s book Rage, detailing President Trump’s administration, which was published this week.


In fact, the particular quote from the book was not entirely clear:

"The Strategic Command in Omaha had carefully reviewed and studied OPLAN 5027 for regime change in North Korea — the U.S. response to an attack that could include the use of 80 nuclear weapons."
This can be read two ways: a potential attack from the North could involve the use of 80 nuclear weapons, or the same number of weapons can be envisaged as a possible U.S. response to a first strike ordered by Pyongyang.

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In an interview with NPR, Woodward cleared up any confusion, noting that the 80 nuclear weapons were part of a U.S. attack plan — OPLAN 5027, which would include ‘decapitating’ the North Korean regime of dictator Kim Jong-un.

“I think given North Korea is a rogue nation, they have, as I report, probably a couple of dozen nuclear weapons well-hidden and concealed,” Woodward explained to NPR. The veteran journalist confirmed that the then U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis was worried he might have to issue orders for a nuclear strike on North Korea. “The potential we’d have to shoot to prevent a second launch was real,” Mattis admitted.

“You’re going to incinerate a couple million people,” Mattis told himself, according to Woodward. “No person has the right to kill a million people as far as I’m concerned, yet that’s what I have to confront.”

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According to Woodward, Trump was worried that shooting down a North Korean ballistic missile (nuclear-armed or otherwise) on a trajectory headed toward the United States could prompt a full-scale nuclear attack from the “Hermit Kingdom.” Woodward writes that Trump had delegated authority to Jim Mattis to launch a conventionally armed interceptor missile to shoot down any North Korean missile that might be headed for the United States.

Woodward said that Mattis confided in him that he was not worried that Trump might launch a preemptive strike against North Korea. Instead, the source of his angst was the North Korean leader in Pyongyang.

In fact, such was Mattis’s level of concern that he would sleep in his gym clothes, Woodward claims. “There was a light in his bathroom… if he was in the shower and they detected a North Korean launch.”

There were alarm bells set up in Mattis’s bedroom and kitchen too, and on more than one occasion during the summer of 2017 they sounded the alert, and he entered the communications room in his Washington DC residency. Woodward explains that Mattis’s car was also constantly followed by an SUV with a team equipped to plot the flight path of any incoming missile, whether it was threatening Japan, South Korea, or the United States. If Mattis considered the missile hostile, he had a mobile communications link to issue launch orders to shoot it down.

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The book describes one particular missile alarm in particular detail. This occurred at 5:57 a.m. on August 29, 2017, when “exquisite” intelligence indicated that North Korea was about to launch another missile. Mattis was at home and entered the communications room, where he was told that U.S. interceptor missiles were ready to fire. The defense secretary monitored the progress of the North Korean missile on a geospatial map, watching it pass over Japan then come down in the sea. Woodward describes Mattis’s job at this time as “a nonstop crucible, personal and hellish. There were no holidays or weekends off, no dead time.”
Clearly, the status of a nuclear-armed North Korea provided much pause for thought within the U.S. administration during Mattis’ tenure as Secretary of Defense. That a strike plan against North Korea involving 80 nuclear weapons was discussed between the president and his defense secretary isn't all that hard to imagine.
Back in September 2017, of course, North Korea conducted its sixth (and most recent) nuclear test, claiming the device in question was a thermonuclear bomb. The same year also saw considerable activity by North Korea’s strategic missile forces, including the first test of the Hwasong-14 and Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and several tests in which missiles passed over Japan.
Amid tensions between Washington and Pyongyang in 2017, The War Zone looked in detail at the U.S. Strategic Command’s (STRATCOM) OPLAN 8010 — outlining the nuclear option for strikes against various unnamed states. One of the passages from the report we highlighted at the time is of particular interest (the authors’ own emphasis is included):

While dynamic security concerns in space and cyberspace evolve, traditional threats to national security continue to be presented by sovereign states, both the peer and near-peer and those regional adversary states with emerging WMD [weapons of mass destruction] capabilities.
The War Zone obtained a redacted version of the report, which does not mention North Korea by name, but which includes a section on “countries that present global threats” — more than likely coded language for North Korea.

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One of the options under consideration in Washington was OPLAN 5015, a nuclear strike to take out the North Korean leadership, which Woodward also refers to, drawing again from his extensive interviews with Trump. Specifically, Woodward mentions “updating” such a plan — after all, Kim Jong-un and his predecessors will have always been priority targets in the case of an all-out war.

In one of his interviews, Trump tells Woodward he considered that Korean Kim Jong-un “was totally prepared” to go to war with the United States, and that full-blown conflict between the two nations was “much closer than anyone would know.” The U.S. president told Woodward that Kim Jong Un’s previously warlike outlook had been confirmed to him in his meeting with the North Korean leader. Trump considered that the situation was eventually diffused by the first-ever U.S.-North Korea summit held in Singapore in June 2018.

While tensions between North Korea and the United States have receded somewhat since 2017, the nuclear issue remains totally unresolved, with talks stalled since the second U.S.-North Korea summit in Vietnam in early 2019.

There are also signs that Pyongyang is further refining its nuclear weapons delivery systems, with claims from officials in South Korea that the North may be preparing to test a fully functional submarine-launched ballistic missile in around a year.

By increasing the portion of its nuclear arsenal carried aboard submarines, North Korea could make the detection and destruction of these weapons harder. The ability of North Korea to then launch a second strike, even if the chances of success were remote, would, in turn, require another update to the U.S. nuclear attack plans — and might involve more than the 80 nuclear weapons that Woodward wrote about.

 

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The only country crazy enough to use nuclear weapons is the US, they have used it in the past as well. Its time the big powers of the workd unite and decapitate the US regime and military and take away its nuclear capability as the US is a risk to overall life on this planet.
 

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Ask yourself, why isn't the US afraid of a retaliatory strike. Because the US has the means to nuke you, without getting nuked in return.

They are giving away that they have the means to defend against nukes and are not even fearful to admit this.

I am pretty sure they have a triad of defenses against nukes. Triad to nuke you - ICBMs, subs, and bombers. And a triad of defenses.

When I said Iran should get nukes, that was before the the killing of Soleimani, after that I realized that US wants Iran to get nukes, they want to nuke any resistance. That is their goal. Nuke NK, Nuke Iran and nuke China. Iran would first have to identify the triad of defenses against nukes, then develop their own conventional means to over come those defenses, then get nukes. Getting nukes before them is a waste of time. They are no threat to the US, unless you develop dumb V2 rockets on small SSBNs and nuclear arm the rocket and launch them on coastal cities near the beach, so there is no time for defenses. This is one possible troubleshooting of weaknesses to this triad defense.
 

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On a side point. trump is revealing this to normalize US warmongering to the nation. trump claimed there could have been an assassination of Assad, however, trump decided not to. That it was a coin toss. This is to normalize Washington taking out foreign leaders. Mentioning about nuking North Korea, is to normalize war and warmongering again.

The warmongering neo-cons got most of the US hating the idea of more wars and endless wars. trump and the far Reich are the con dudes to fool the public that the deep state is gone and war = peace, CiA bitcoin = money, slavery = freedom. You had the Nobel Peace Prize Obama to make the claim that the US is about peace, when that was a con job too.

Obama and trump are psy-ops on the general public.

Global Oligarchs are a bunch of rapists and abusers. trump video of bragging about grabbing women by the ***** was to normalize that. trump bragged that trump could shoot somebody on fifth ave and not lose any voters. That is the stupidity of trump supporters. trump is normalizing neo-conservatism and aggressive zionism and the public have no clue trump is Bush III. trump gave the federal reserve to Bush allies in Carlyle Group. trump is surrounded by Khazars same as the Bushes.

Imagine Ron Paul or some other outsider doing what trump is doing, they would not only be impeached, they would have been thrown out. The media oppose trump only to the point to give legitimacy to trump. They are not trying to delegitimize trump as some new Hitler.
 

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On a side point. trump is revealing this to normalize US warmongering to the nation. trump claimed there could have been an assassination of Assad, however, trump decided not to. That it was a coin toss. This is to normalize Washington taking out foreign leaders. Mentioning about nuking North Korea, is to normalize war and warmongering again.

The warmongering neo-cons got most of the US hating the idea of more wars and endless wars. trump and the far Reich are the con dudes to fool the public that the deep state is gone and war = peace, CiA bitcoin = money, slavery = freedom. You had the Nobel Peace Prize Obama to make the claim that the US is about peace, when that was a con job too.

Obama and trump are psy-ops on the general public.

Global Oligarchs are a bunch of rapists and abusers. trump video of bragging about grabbing women by the ***** was to normalize that. trump bragged that trump could shoot somebody on fifth ave and not lose any voters. That is the stupidity of trump supporters. trump is normalizing neo-conservatism and aggressive zionism and the public have no clue trump is Bush III. trump gave the federal reserve to Bush allies in Carlyle Group. trump is surrounded by Khazars same as the Bushes.

Imagine Ron Paul or some other outsider doing what trump is doing, they would not only be impeached, they would have been thrown out. The media oppose trump only to the point to give legitimacy to trump. They are not trying to delegitimize trump as some new Hitler.
One Flaw, the UN doesn't recognize Taiwan so China can start a war over it and nothing from the UN other than USA lap dogs and Trump.
 

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They can dream whatever they want.
But the harsh reality is without China's nod, you dare not drop anything.
 

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They can dream whatever they want.
But the harsh reality is without China's nod, you dare not drop anything.
This is unrealistic perspective.

Back in 2017, DPRK leadership was under the illusion that it could bully Trump administration with provocative actions/decisions in the Pacific. I recall a series of unpleasant exchanges between Kim Jong-Un and Donald Trump in social media platforms in regards to testing ballistic missiles over Japan and a nuclear test. Things heated to the extent that Trump administration threatened DPRK of total destruction in a United Nations session. This was no EMPTY THREAT - substantial military buildup in the region was apparent to prying eyes and nuclear strikes were on the table.

China was pushing DPRK to commence talks with Trump administration all along. However, China was also preparing for hosting a huge number of refugees from DPRK should the situation grow out of control.

The most tense situation was when sirens blew over Guam one fine day suggesting imminent nuclear strike from DPRK.... The entire world was in a virtual freeze... USA was at DeFCon 5 on this day.

Why would China risk nuclear war with USA for another irrational state actor? This is suicidal foreign policy.
 

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This is unrealistic perspective.

Back in 2017, DPRK leadership was under the illusion that it could bully Trump administration with provocative actions/decisions in the Pacific. I recall a series of unpleasant exchanges between Kim Jong-Un and Donald Trump in social media platforms in regards to testing ballistic missiles over Japan and a nuclear test. Things heated to the extent that Trump administration threatened DPRK of total destruction in a United Nations session. This was no EMPTY THREAT - substantial military buildup in the region was apparent to prying eyes and nuclear strikes were on the table.

China was pushing DPRK to commence talks with Trump administration all along. However, China was also preparing for hosting a huge number of refugees from DPRK should the situation grow out of control.

The most tense situation was when sirens blew over Guam one fine day suggesting imminent nuclear strike from DPRK.... The entire world was in a virtual freeze... USA was at DeFCon 5 on this day.

Why would China risk nuclear war with USA for another irrational state actor? This is suicidal foreign policy.
It's more of a bluff because the surrounding countries including Russia will get affected by the fallout and USA doesn't need Nukes to win over N Korea.
 

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Why would China risk nuclear war with USA for another irrational state actor? This is suicidal foreign policy.
China may not be happy with NK's nuclear weapon development plan that time.
But China will never allow US drop nukes in NK which is near China's border.
Open your map and check where is NK, you will realize that dropping nukes in NK is a absolutely NO for China.

So your question should be rephrased in this way:
"Why would USA risk nuclear war with China for another irrelevant state? This is suicidal foreign policy."

And US know the answer.
 
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It's more of a bluff because the surrounding countries including Russia will get affected by the fallout and USA doesn't need Nukes to win over N Korea.
Putin would feign a complaint, nothing more. Putin knows who Vlads controllers are. Putin must not bite the hand that loots Russia every minute of every day.

Russia’s economic problems are due to the looting of the country during the Yeltsin years, to the imposition of neoliberal economics by the Americans, and to financialization as a result of the privatizations.

Russia’s stock market became the darling of the West in the mid-1990s as underpriced mining, oil and infrastructure were sold for a fraction of their value to foreigners, thus transferring Russian income streams abroad instead of leaving the income to be invested in Russia. In effect, Russians were told that the way for their country to get rich was to let kleptocrats, oligarchs, and their U.S. and British stock brokers make hundreds of billions of dollars by privatizing Russia’s public domain.



The wealth of Russia still has not been returned. And Russia is still being looted. Putin is your fake nationalist, to fool the Russian, a Yeltsin appointee. You think Yeltsin - a puppet of the Bushes - simply picked Putin out of a hat. CiA controls Putin, and to keep the looting going, Putin pretends to hate the US and says everything correct about the mafia state of Washington. Then Russians are clueless that Russia is owned by Western capitalists and other looters. As Russians suffer.

You hear about the Russian-Jewish Oligarchs as the looters of Russia, never hear anything about Western capitalist looters. This shows you where zionist jews are in the pecking order of the Oligarchs.

Watch the beginning of this video:


It links the looters of Russia with Washington criminals.

Putin is not going to do anything without approval from Washington.

US is considering intervention in Taiwan, however difficult that is.


An invasion of Taiwan is something China should consider if trade stops between China and the West, and if somebody tries to sue China over sneezing.

The next 10 years must be to get China so rich, that China can... well I don't want to scare Washington. :enjoy:
 

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Since his election, Trump boasted about how he was going to stop North Korea from obtaining a nuclear deterrent against an American invasion. Then in 2017, North Korea managed to test a thermonuclear device and an intercontinental ballistic missile. The American bluff was called. To give the Americans a face saving exit, the North Koreans (so far) stopped further nuclear and missile tests -- so their deterrence is still not reliable -- while the Americans (so far) stopped conducting offensive military exercises around North Korea. A truce was reached. Trump's face was covered in eggs.

But this episode spawned more hostility in the Trump administrator against China because the main reason why a preemptive attack on North Korea would be counterproductive is because PLA would drive in and prop up its own preferred North Korean general. That led to the trade war in 2018.
 
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Since his election, Trump boasted about how he was going to stop North Korea from obtaining a nuclear deterrent against an American invasion. Then in 2017, North Korea managed to test a thermonuclear device and an intercontinental ballistic missile. The American bluff was called. To give the Americans a face saving exit, the North Koreans (so far) stopped further nuclear and missile tests -- so their deterrence is still not reliable -- while the Americans (so far) stopped conducting offensive military exercises around North Korea. A truce was reached. Trump's face was covered in eggs.

But this episode spawned more hostility in the Trump administrator against China because the main reason why a preemptive attack on North Korea would be counterproductive is because PLA would drive in and prop up its own preferred North Korean general. That led to the trade war in 2018.
Trade war is because China is killing American common people jobs, it's not NK related.

We need a Trump in every European country and do the same :enjoy:
 

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