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The threat of the growing Egyptian military power, an Israeli study

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What is the BS? Israel and Egypt are allies. Egypt even blocks entry into the gaza strip for them.

Their will never be solidarity until their is only one super power. The EU was created because after ww2 all countries where devastated except America and Russia.
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The real shit is opinions based on ignorance and propaganda. There is a difference between a peace agreement that did not develop for real trade relations and some traitors who get their military technology from Israel and their trade exchange for billions.
If we compare the nature of relations with countries affiliated with Israel, such as Turkey, and even Nawaz Sharif, who wanted to transfer technologies for the development of JF-17 from Israel, there are some that produce Israeli weapons such as MRAP vehicles under the name Kribi.

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Whoever governs the pride of an organization called Hamas, whose goal is not to liberate an inch of the land of Palestine, but rather only cares about governance and money

Egypt does not besiege Gaza because it is part of occupied Palestine, and the responsible for Gaza is Israel. The border crossings are controlled by Israel.
On the contrary, Gaza received more than 70,000 rockets, and many anti-tank missiles reached Hamas’s Kornet. Is it besieged or just accusations from some traitors who are Israel’s allies?
We in Sinai simply know who the Palestinians are and who sold their land and balcony, and never intended to liberate an inch of their land. When Egypt offered to rebuild Gaza, Hamas was screaming for dollars. They are part of the organization of the Muslim Brotherhood, the British intelligence industry, the enemies of their countries. They deliberately treason, so no one is allowed A cockroach to make accusations about something he is completely ignorant of




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Directing lies and false accusations to Egypt only to conceal cooperation programs between other countries with Israel, such as Turkey
Iran, too, has transferred to it the techniques of manufacturing the TOW missile, the manufacture of spare parts and the maintenance of the Iranian aircraft fleet

The Palestinians, we find that their most important interests are to marry women, have 6 or 10 children, and live on aid from all countries of the world. Everyone pays them. So, the issue is for the Philistines, the largest source of their income for trade with it. Any occupied countries in the world, if its people revolt, are liberated, and all of them are secret allies of Israel only in the media. As for the hostility of Israel, only the Egyptians fought it and it was not defeated by the Egyptians and the Jews consider the Egyptians their historical enemy for thousands of years because they were in Egypt slaves to our ancestors since they came to Egypt to escape the famine in the Levant

Therefore, counter-propaganda and distortion of Egypt will not remove the constants of the Jews, the cousins of the Arabs and the echoes of the Turks, and they have no enemy in the whole world, and they do not care or fear except from the Egyptians.
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https://tradingeconomics.com/turkey/exports-to-israel

Some insist that we open files that will expose many and remove the mask of virtue and false honor from them
 

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Very cool topic, can you send me the link of the study?

It seems that the matter gave you diarrhea, so you should take your pills because this is dangerous to your health, as it causes you to whiten hair and premature aging.

It did not. I am a well wisher when it comes to egypt. I would like nothing better than a strong and prosperous Egypt.

However egyptian military buildup vis-a-vis israel is not credible. You are part of the same alliance and there is a technology gap that has not been closed.

You can not hope to defeat israel by buying weapons from the west or Russia when both has vested interest in keeping them several steps ahead.
 

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Another good indicator for the future of air threats from the north side

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We are pleased that Turkey has obtained US approval to purchase 40 F-16 Block 70 aircraft

Because Turkey could not obtain the F-15EX aircraft, which is supposed to replace the Turkish F-4, which is also a blow to the Turkish AESA radar development program, and Turkey's admission of the failure to obtain engines for the HURJET aircraft, Turkey will not get any technical support from Europe, whether engines or radar con. Turkey is a source of threat to Greece
Americans quickly agreed to the F-16 deal because this is America's offer from the ground up so that Turkey does not go to buy heavy aircraft SU-35/57 or even the RD-93 engine in favor of the HURJET aircraft to avoid further sanctions on Turkey and also Turkey's recognition that there are problems In the local AESA radar, which was developed for the F-16, simply to Western Turkey in the development of 80 Turkish aircraft with the APG-83 SABR radar

It is his guarantee of the weakness of the Turkish Air Force for a long time to come, which relies on 235 F-16 aircraft equipped with APG-68V9 radars.

It means that it will be the weakest in the eastern Mediterranean, due to its reliance on light aircraft, such as the F-16, in contrast to the air weapons that possess the Rafale fighters, F-35 and SU-35 planes.


The Americans, who obey them, are working to significantly weaken the US approval of other policy conditions related to the S-400 batteries. What was done was an attempt to stop the deterioration of relations, while Greece also benefited by obtaining the F-35, which was banned from Turkey and Rafale planes, so it wanted to get 48 fighters of the two models. before 2025

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While the start of the implementation of the Turkish deal requires two years from the date of signing the deal. If the deal is signed at the beginning of 2022, Turkey will get the first plane in 2024. Greece will have 24 Rafale planes, and it may be parallel to the first F-35 plane received by Greece.

With the Greek deal, Greece wants to develop additional numbers of F-16 30-50 aircraft to the standard F-16V BLOCK 70 level.
As for Egypt, it will receive at the same time the new batch of 30 Rafale 4.1 planes, and it will complete the tender for 50 new planes between MIG-35 & J-10CEG
Also, negotiations for a new batch of Sukhoi-35 with 12 planes have been negotiated for several months, which makes the air superiority of the Egyptian side continue.
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Important point

Air Force weapons, which depend on a single fighter, are an open book to all its enemies. They have limited air capabilities and a major weakness. Not all missions require a single fighter, especially for a country that has ambitions for the wealth of its neighbors and wants to gain influence by military threat and force of arms.
Especially with antique aircraft such as the F-16 owned by everyone in the Middle East, and a number of them have already left the air forces of many countries.


Diversity of capabilities and qualities of fighters simply means problems in hostile air weapons, which must anticipate different and diverse combat tactics in favor of countries that have diversity in fighters and their different capabilities and different levels of armament

While the Air Force, which depends on one fighter, means that it is easy to deal with, as it has a single fighter and specific and limited levels of armament due to its reliance on a single source of weapons in addition to local capabilities, no matter how great they are.

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We are pleased that Turkey has obtained US approval to purchase 40 F-16 Block 70 aircraft
Turkey hasn't obtained approval to purchase the F-16 Vipers. They only sent a request.

With the Greek deal, Greece wants to develop additional numbers of F-16 30-50 aircraft to the standard F-16V BLOCK 70 level.
Greece wants to upgrade 84 F-16s to F-16V and upgrade the rest to Block 52+ and Block 52+ Adv.

I'm a bit confused,was the text auto-translated? :P It doesn't make sense at some parts.
 

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Turkey hasn't obtained approval to purchase the F-16 Vipers. They only sent a request.


Greece wants to upgrade 84 F-16s to F-16V and upgrade the rest to Block 52+ and Block 52+ Adv.

I'm a bit confused,was the text auto-translated? :P It doesn't make sense at some parts.

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Greek websites were the first to publish the news of Turkey's F-16V request

https://www.defence-point.gr/news/a...thmisi-allon-80-ora-tis-alitheias-gia-tis-ipa


Turkey will get approval for sure
Turkey will not submit a request publicly and officially and then find America's refusal besides there are other things

1 - Agreements between Turkey and America are conducted in secrecy Previously, Turkey offered to buy F-16 from America as part of the F-35 deal settlement America had previously refused
Buying an F-35 or even an F-16. The Turks had a problem. The F-4 had to be taken out of service, starting in 2020, under the insistence of Turkey.

On the continuation of the implementation of the contract for the purchase of S-400 from Russia
Even not inserting S-400 batteries
In the Turkish Air Defense Network
Completely so far so as not to anger America
But there are variables that occurred later that led to the acceptance of approval

2 - For several months, the Turkish side has been talking about new negotiations with America, and lately Turkey requested compensation for Turkey's investments in a project F-35

3 - On the other hand, Turkey used the Russians to put pressure on the Americans, with negotiations to buy SU-35/57 The middle solution is Turkey orders F-16 then America accepts

4 - Turkey who gave it the green light is the US side by offering the US side’s approval to buy Turkey more F-16 in exchange for other matters to remove the S-400 from service. It is not yet done for Turkey to move to another stage

6 - The American offer to the Turks is a kind of American malice. The Turks’ acquisition of the F-16 Block 70 means Greek air superiority over the Turks, with Greece obtaining the F-35 & Rafale fighters.

Besides that Greece has already contracted to develop 84 aircraft for the F-16V Block 70 level, and in exchange for the Turks getting 40 planes, Greece will develop additional numbers of F-16s, and the matter may exceed 123 planes instead of developing numbers from F-16 Block 30 to F-16 Block 50 +
As compensation for Greece

To see the sequence of events, Turkey requested and the first to announce this matter was on a Greek website.
Therefore, Greece will not object
In exchange for the Turks getting 40 F-16 fighters, Greece will get comparative advantages in developing
An addition to the Greek F-16 systems, whether in preparation or quality, is better than what is done for the Turks
He also passed a deal for 24 F-35 planes for Greece

Do not get angry Greece over the sale of F-16 planes to Turkey
And they got Developing preparations for the 16th Greek Mosaic for what Turkey will get

And also you get
24 F-35
24 Rafale +
120 F-16V

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That is, Greece will have 160 planes with AESA radars in exchange for the Turks owning 120 planes equipped with AESA radars, with Greece superiority in the quality of 48 AESA radars over the Rafale, F-35


Which makes Greece in the Aegean Sea superior to the Turks with the availability of more numbers of the latest and developed planes from the Turks

The Turkish side sees the matter as a stage to overcome tension and sanctions so that Turkey will later request America’s support to provide American engines for the TFX plane in the future. The Americans may agree, but the Turks will not get GE or Pratt & Whitney engines, whether for the Hurjet plane or the TFX plane. It will be for the post-Erdogan stage, not now, but also Erdogan imagines that he will benefit from American political and economic support to confront his internal and external problems by reducing the tension with America.


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Greece wants to upgrade 84 F-16s to F-16V and upgrade the rest to Block 52+ and Block 52+ Adv.
This first Hellenic single seat Rafale wrapping up testing in Mérignac, France. Gadang, Foinikas, does that thing look AMAZING or what! And what a sophisticated death machine it is, to boot! Sometimes we forget how superb these machines are as we get used to them being in the EAF. It takes seeing them in our brotherly Greek Air Force and the Indian AF as well to appreciate how blessed we are to have a pair of squadrons already and 3 more being built for the EAF as we speak. The EAF started this whole love affair and put the Rafale on the map for Dassault by purchasing that first order back in 2013/15. Now the French can't keep up with all the interest in that aircraft! 👍

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Tikanis Kala Afgharisto Parakalo! lol It's all I remember from when I lived in Cyprus and visited Greece several times back in the 80's! :D
 

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This first Hellenic single seat Rafale wrapping up testing in Mérignac, France. Gadang, Foinikas, does that thing look AMAZING or what! And what a sophisticated death machine it is, to boot! Sometimes we forget how superb these machines are as we get used to them being in the EAF. It takes seeing them in our brotherly Greek Air Force and the Indian AF as well to appreciate how blessed we are to have a pair of squadrons already and 3 more being built for the EAF as we speak. The EAF started this whole love affair and put the Rafale on the map for Dassault by purchasing that first order back in 2013/15. Now the French can't keep up with all the interest in that aircraft! 👍

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Tikanis Kala Afgharisto Parakalo! lol It's all I remember from when I lived in Cyprus and visited Greece several times back in the 80's! :D
Hilwoouuuu! Agmal tayara fi 3alem! Here are the first two. Imagine Greek and Egyptian Rafales followed by F-16s. And Turks being denied F-16Vs and trying to make their own TFX.
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Greek websites were the first to publish the news of Turkey's F-16V request

https://www.defence-point.gr/news/a...thmisi-allon-80-ora-tis-alitheias-gia-tis-ipa


Turkey will get approval for sure
Turkey will not submit a request publicly and officially and then find America's refusal besides there are other things

1 - Agreements between Turkey and America are conducted in secrecy Previously, Turkey offered to buy F-16 from America as part of the F-35 deal settlement America had previously refused
Buying an F-35 or even an F-16. The Turks had a problem. The F-4 had to be taken out of service, starting in 2020, under the insistence of Turkey.

On the continuation of the implementation of the contract for the purchase of S-400 from Russia
Even not inserting S-400 batteries
In the Turkish Air Defense Network
Completely so far so as not to anger America
But there are variables that occurred later that led to the acceptance of approval

2 - For several months, the Turkish side has been talking about new negotiations with America, and lately Turkey requested compensation for Turkey's investments in a project F-35

3 - On the other hand, Turkey used the Russians to put pressure on the Americans, with negotiations to buy SU-35/57 The middle solution is Turkey orders F-16 then America accepts

4 - Turkey who gave it the green light is the US side by offering the US side’s approval to buy Turkey more F-16 in exchange for other matters to remove the S-400 from service. It is not yet done for Turkey to move to another stage

6 - The American offer to the Turks is a kind of American malice. The Turks’ acquisition of the F-16 Block 70 means Greek air superiority over the Turks, with Greece obtaining the F-35 & Rafale fighters.

Besides that Greece has already contracted to develop 84 aircraft for the F-16V Block 70 level, and in exchange for the Turks getting 40 planes, Greece will develop additional numbers of F-16s, and the matter may exceed 123 planes instead of developing numbers from F-16 Block 30 to F-16 Block 50 +
As compensation for Greece

To see the sequence of events, Turkey requested and the first to announce this matter was on a Greek website.
Therefore, Greece will not object
In exchange for the Turks getting 40 F-16 fighters, Greece will get comparative advantages in developing
An addition to the Greek F-16 systems, whether in preparation or quality, is better than what is done for the Turks
He also passed a deal for 24 F-35 planes for Greece

Do not get angry Greece over the sale of F-16 planes to Turkey
And they got Developing preparations for the 16th Greek Mosaic for what Turkey will get

And also you get
24 F-35
24 Rafale +
120 F-16V

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That is, Greece will have 160 planes with AESA radars in exchange for the Turks owning 120 planes equipped with AESA radars, with Greece superiority in the quality of 48 AESA radars over the Rafale, F-35


Which makes Greece in the Aegean Sea superior to the Turks with the availability of more numbers of the latest and developed planes from the Turks

The Turkish side sees the matter as a stage to overcome tension and sanctions so that Turkey will later request America’s support to provide American engines for the TFX plane in the future. The Americans may agree, but the Turks will not get GE or Pratt & Whitney engines, whether for the Hurjet plane or the TFX plane. It will be for the post-Erdogan stage, not now, but also Erdogan imagines that he will benefit from American political and economic support to confront his internal and external problems by reducing the tension with America.


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That was an interesting post. It does make sense. But we have to wait and see if Biden will approve the sale in the end. I mean the Congress and all.
 

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Since Greece is getting those rafales and f35s not to mention f16 block 52s and vipers, I better see those greek mirages given to egypt, just like those bmp 1s from Athens. Then she should turn her attention and sell away her f16s to the emiratis and get those 50 or 60 m2000s. I heard from somewhere that india wants to replace its m2000s with the tejas 2 perhaps, I know @The SC has given me the link to an article on how india is using refurbished mirages in their inventories. Also france is a BIG seller of those aircraft. Idk about yall but I strongly believe egypt should make the m2000 as its backbone jet, since Egy f16s will most likely not recieve any amraams for them, definetly not the case if egypt has r77s and meteors, and plans to get k77 in the future.
 

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Since Greece is getting those rafales and f35s not to mention f16 block 52s and vipers, I better see those greek mirages given to egypt, just like those bmp 1s from Athens. Then she should turn her attention and sell away her f16s to the emiratis and get those 50 or 60 m2000s. I heard from somewhere that india wants to replace its m2000s with the tejas 2 perhaps, I know @The SC has given me the link to an article on how india is using refurbished mirages in their inventories. Also france is a BIG seller of those aircraft. Idk about yall but I strongly believe egypt should make the m2000 as its backbone jet, since Egy f16s will most likely not recieve any amraams for them, definetly not the case if egypt has r77s and meteors, and plans to get k77 in the future.
There was a rumor here that the French want them. The Mirage 2000 EGM/BGM not the Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2. I don't know why,but there was a rumor that the French would get the 18 Mirage 2000s back for some reason. But if that's not true,it would be good to give them to you or the UAE. We also have those Phantoms...
 

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Israel is playing a new game to drain the West and America by creating Egypt as a source of threat to it so that it can get huge military support from America and also make the West prohibit and restrict Egyptian armament














Away from the field of military propaganda, there are military studies and analyzes that reveal what is being hidden

The Israeli fear of the Egyptian military capabilities, which constitute a source of terror for it and all the regional powers in the Middle East

Israel's secret alliances with Turkey, Ethiopia and Iran against Egypt and Western countries are close to failure



It is not better than to quote what the enemies say about Egypt in their studies



The author of the study is primarily a former Israeli general, specializing in studies of the level of threats in the Middle East to Israel

Before we go to this study



Introduction to the level of threats that the Israelis do not mention

Israel does not see any danger, even from the artificial Islamic terrorism mediated by Turkey through the Muslim Brotherhood gangs, ISIS criminals and other Turkish tools that are used to implement the Turkish agenda in the Middle East and Africa, which threatens Europe with America supporting Israel and Turkey to use the four devils’ threats Turkey, Iran, Israel and Ethiopia against the Arab Countries African, and even Europe and Asia

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We find the four demons, each of them creating another circle of alliance that intersects with the Israeli circle in the implementation of strategic plans



Circles of influence and alliances against Arab countries, for example, each of the four enemies



Turkey

It allies with Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia and Azerbaijan so that Turkey can implement its colonial strategy and plunder the wealth of peoples in other countries

Although the Arabs and Egypt did not ally themselves with India against this cycle of threats, it was sufficient to reduce the economic and military cooperation programs with this alliance.





The same is true of the Iranians. They have another circle of traitors from within the Arab countries, from the Shiite sect, which is prominently present in 5 countries.


Ethiopia is trying to create an African alliance against the Arab countries and the people of black skin against North Africa and the use of the water card, whether inside the Nile Basin or its light border with North Africa, which is hostile to Egypt so that it can extend the influence of South Africa in all African countries



Israel was not satisfied with this network of alliances, but was able to penetrate the Gulf and North Africa



It now has an alliance with the UAE and Morocco mainly and is trying to attract Sudan to this alliance to become also a tool against the rest of the Arab and Islamic countries, and programs of internal hostility are created between the Arab countries

Such as escalating tension against Algeria and creating enmity between Morocco and Algeria with the encouragement of Morocco



The UAE is using a tool that Israel uses to lead the Gulf countries economically in exchange for protecting the Gulf from Iran to provide funding for Israel’s ambitions in the Middle East and to implement even its religious ambitions


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The Israeli study talks about the high level of Egyptian threats through an Egyptian plan to increase its military capacity since 2004

While the study sees that Egypt was until 2010 behind the Pakistani-Turkish as strongest Islamic military forces, but the matter has changed now after rebuilding military Capabilities



On the other hand, the Egyptians had long-term military plans, so Egypt was able to take advantage of the military support and US and European funding during 30 years to build huge stocks of weapons without any obligations on the Egyptian economy and also to provide annual financial savings since 1988 invested to finance arms deals in the period after the disposal of the US armament

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EGYPTIAN T-72

The Americans have been an Israeli pressure tool since 2004, and America has been refusing to arm the Egyptian army, as a result of Egypt’s growing capabilities in secret missile programs and military cooperation with Russia, China and North Korea in an undisclosed manner. secretly too

It refused to modernize American weapons in Egypt, and Egypt was using russiamn as second source against America, which is openly turning to Russia in the field of fighters. In 2006, it announced its interest in 48 MiG-29s, 24 Su-35s and 12 S-300 batteries, and America offered Egypt at the time quantities of used weapons. And the sale of 20 F-16 aircraft in exchange for canceling this procurement program


Egypt, for its part, has an armament policy that says we do not have canceled programs, but may be postponed. Therefore, since 2015 Egypt has implemented the old acquisition program that it wanted from Russia at this time, as Mig-29 and Su-35 deals were already implemented, and the Israelis are talking that Egypt obtained 8 batteries S300VM/V4


On the other hand, on the Chinese side, Egypt obtained HQ-17 and HQ-18 batteries from China to replace 40 Sa-2


We go to the heart of the Israeli study and how Egypt represents a strategic threat to Israel



The Israeli study says that Egypt spent 120 billion dollars on armaments between 2013-2021. The study ended already in July 2021.





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If we look at some of the Egyptian Air Force’s purchases of helicopters, VIP government planes, and drones in the period between 2013-2021, Israeli estimates range between 7-15 billion dollars, in addition to undeclared Russian sales and even undeclared purchases from other countries, such as UAE drones. Or Mi-24 and other unannounced deals, which shows the growing real value of the deals
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I must say the rumored MiG-29 deal around 2005 is something few actually know/remember. For him to mention it is something that proves his focus on Egypt.
 

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Rather, you are the slaves who do not know the origin of a group of mixed tribes. You are neither European nor Asian, but you are crazy of thieves. You lived in the mountains. Do not talk about your masters. Were it not for the Egyptians, you would still be slaves to the Mongols.

Egypt was ruled by the TURKS for centuries between 1250 and 1900s

MAMLUKS ( Turkic origin BAIBARS HAN ) beat Mongols to save Egypt
You would still be slaves to the Mongols



Dont compare your weak,poor,undeveloped Egypt with regional super power Turkey
Egypt can not produce even Cruise Missile

btw USA gives billions of dollars to Egypt to work for İsraeli interests
go and kill more Palestinians for İsraeli interests



You pray for ERDOGAN that He spent over $1 trillion for public projects in the last 19 years instead of buying weapons

even Turkey spent around $100 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries since 2011
Turkey would buy Egypt+Greece+İsrael militaries combined for $100 billion


Turkey has bigger GDP PPP than Egypt+Greece+İsrael combined
Turkey has bigger Exports rate than Egypt+Greece+İsrael combined
and Turkey has more military projects than Egypt+Greece+İsrael combined
 

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ASELPOD BASED ON ISRAEL LITENING POD international sales based on this realty
only liar TROLL like you can say this

then all İsraeli Systems based on American technology


Do you know how many countries could develop nex gen Targeting Pod in the World ?

only USA,Turkey,İsrael,France,China and Russia
Egypt can not develop even E/O Systems


Turkey has enough money to buy most modern weapons in the world
but Turkey develops 700+ military projects for $70+ billion to become real military power
Turkey has far more military projects than even Egypt+Greece+İsrael combined
 

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