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Guys, Shakespeare was not English, hes real name is Seyh Pir. He was a muslim.

Lets hear from erdogans adviser and the great historian that has many high iq villagemen followers.

 

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This is just to prove who the country is being ruled by.

Democracy is not always fair, infact most of the time its not. Who controls the media controls the country most of the time.
 

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Come on man,the earth is flat,the evolution theory is fake,Muslims were the first in America and on the moon.
These are all facts,educate yourselves.:pissed::pissed::pissed:
 

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Reminds me of Qaddafi's nonsense: it's purpose wasn't to convince or make sense, but to demonstrate his power, showing that he still commanded Libya despite spewing nonsense.

Well, we all know how that ended for Qaddafi, don't we?
 

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Guys, Shakespeare was not English, hes real name is Seyh Pir. He was a muslim.

Lets hear from erdogans adviser and the great historian that has many high iq villagemen followers.

The one's insulting others about IQ, usually (and ironically) do nothing more than just show their own ignorance and arrogance.
This is just to prove who the country is being ruled by.

Democracy is not always fair, infact most of the time its not. Who controls the media controls the country most of the time.
Many times you are leaving trolling and flaming messages about a certain political party. And then claiming how those people are ignorant and brainwashed by media, but in reality it's actually people like you who are at the whims of media outlets. And you prove this time and time again with almost every message you post on this forum. For instance, the fact that you say stuff like 'villagemen', is only a poor reflection on your own arrogance rather than anything else.

The wisest people (when it comes to politics) are the one's that aren't politically and ideologically fanatical. They may have preferences sure, but they don't hate others to the extreme like you seem to be doing. These types of people think pragmatically and see through cheap media/political tricks, provocations and trolls, or at least try to do so (which is all you can ask, tbh). Can you claim that about yourself?

If I were for instance an agent of a foreign intelligence agency, and I wanted to destabilize a certain country;
I would consider people that are fanatical about various political parties and ideologies to be my 'assets'. All I had to do then is provoke these groups against each other, fuel their hatred and watch the flames spread out.

Sunni/Shia, Turk/Kurd, CHP/MHP/AKP (et al.), Ukranians/Russians, Maduro/anti-Maduro, Democrat/Republican, etc. All these groups can be, and are pitted against each other but it can only succeed by focussing on the fanatical one's/haters. And if there aren't any? They create them with (social) media.

So we got to be smart and not fall for provocations and above all not to provoke others, otherwise we will become pawns of the actual provocateurs and instigators.
 

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The one's insulting others about IQ, usually (and ironically) do nothing more than just show their own ignorance and arrogance.

Many times you are leaving trolling and flaming messages about a certain political party. And then claiming how those people are ignorant and brainwashed by media, but in reality it's actually people like you who are at the whims of media outlets. And you prove this time and time again with almost every message you post on this forum. For instance, the fact that you say stuff like 'villagemen', is only a poor reflection on your own arrogance rather than anything else.

The wisest people (when it comes to politics) are the one's that aren't politically and ideologically fanatical. They may have preferences sure, but they don't hate others to the extreme like you seem to be doing. These types of people think pragmatically and see through cheap media/political tricks, provocations and trolls, or at least try to do so (which is all you can ask, tbh). Can you claim that about yourself?

If I were for instance an agent of a foreign intelligence agency, and I wanted to destabilize a certain country;
I would consider people that are fanatical about various political parties and ideologies to be my 'assets'. All I had to do then is provoke these groups against each other, fuel their hatred and watch the flames spread out.

Sunni/Shia, Turk/Kurd, CHP/MHP/AKP (et al.), Ukranians/Russians, Maduro/anti-Maduro, Democrat/Republican, etc. All these groups can be, and are pitted against each other but it can only succeed by focussing on the fanatical one's/haters. And if there aren't any? They create them with (social) media.

So we got to be smart and not fall for provocations and above all not to provoke others, otherwise we will become pawns of the actual provocateurs and instigators.

The thing you dont understand is that its your beloved leader that is causing all this, we are shooting ourselves in the foot because of him. Im not fanatical, I hate him because he is an enemy of this nation and a traitor and im trying to make people aware.

You are blinded by watching A haber 24/7
 

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The thing you dont understand is that its your beloved leader that is causing all this, we are shooting ourselves in the foot because of him. Im not fanatical, I hate him because he is an enemy of this nation and a traitor and im trying to make people aware.

You are blinded by watching A haber 24/7
the ones before were also enemies of turks.. we never had real man or they did not get the real chance..

turkey was and is a puppet regime serving external interests.. from the very beginning
 

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The thing you dont understand is that its your beloved leader that is causing all this, we are shooting ourselves in the foot because of him. Im not fanatical, I hate him because he is an enemy of this nation and a traitor and im trying to make people aware.

You are blinded by watching A haber 24/7
Causing all of this? Current politicians aren't exactly helping the situation (which makes them part of the problem), that is true. Luckily there are a few exceptions, but they are not as well known. But would you believe me if I told you that this problem has been present for decades? To give an example, what do you think the 'sag-sol catismalari' were? This was way before any of the current leaders.

And no, you hate because you are fanatical. I used to be similar to that as well. After an election, the party I was rooting for at the time (I don't wanna give names, but I think you can guess) only got like somewhere in the 15% to 20% of the votes, I actually thought to myself that the 80% to 85% were all traitors. I live in the Netherlands, and here I was thinking Turkish people living in Turkey to be traitors. How ridiculous is that, right? In my defense I was kind of young though, but it was one of the first wake-up calls. I still see this thought-process in people by the way, sometimes in different forms by accusing them to be ignorant, some accuse them of taking bribes, etc.

You are for instance claiming the leadership to be treacherous, but the threads (especially the sticky's) in this forum is counteracting this argument. If the leadership were treacherous, they would've done everything in their power to block those projects, but instead they are spearheading them. Any rational person that see's your messages and reads the rest of the forum will not only question the content of your messages, but simply stop taking you seriously as a person. I get that you don't like a certain political party, that is fair enough, it's even needed. This way we can fill each other's blind spots, but this only works if we write something sensible, and not write any provoking messages which only serves to cause rifts between us.
 
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Causing all of this? Current politicians aren't exactly helping the situation (which makes them part of the problem), that is true. Luckily there are a few exceptions, but they are not as well known. But would you believe me if I told you that this problem has been present for decades? To give an example, what do you think the 'sag-sol catismalari' were? This was way before any of the current leaders.

And no, you hate because you are fanatical. I used to be similar to that as well. After an election, the party I was rooting for at the time (I don't wanna give names, but I think you can guess) only got like somewhere in the 15% to 20% of the votes, I actually thought to myself that the 80% to 85% were all traitors. I live in the Netherlands, and here I was thinking Turkish people living in Turkey to be traitors. How ridiculous is that, right? In my defense I was kind of young though, but it was one of the first wake-up calls. I still see this thought-process in people by the way, sometimes in different forms by accusing them to be ignorant, some accuse them of taking bribes, etc.

You are for instance claiming the leadership to be treacherous, but the threads (especially the sticky's) in this forum is counteracting this argument. If the leadership were treacherous, they would've done everything in their power to block those projects, but instead they are spearheading them. Any rational person that see's your messages and reads the rest of the forum will not only question the content of your messages, but simply stop taking you seriously as a person. I get that you don't like a certain political party, that is fair enough, it's even needed. This way we can fill each other's blind spots, but this only works if we write something sensible, and not write any provoking messages which only serves to cause rifts between us.
Will you please write the things that you think people question and to not take serious in the posts that @Baybars Han has written about a certain party that you accuse him of being fanatical?

In the end people will make sure whom to take serious, lets discover our dimensional intelligence, deal?
 
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Guys, Shakespeare was not English, hes real name is Seyh Pir. He was a muslim.

Lets hear from erdogans adviser and the great historian that has many high iq villagemen followers.

It was a joke about Shakespeare but I didn't think one day a retard would say that he was a muslim
 
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