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The Rafale Factor and Options for the PAF

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Pakistan have only 2 options J-20/J-31b & the time is too short...:pakistan::china:
Hi my friend BIG NO to J20 they aren’t coming until Chinese goes to something beyond j20
But I do agree with you for j31 only problem is cash restraint Pakistan is not putting anything
Against the project and Chinese Navy at the moment not in hurry to get these j31 due to their ACC are not fully operational
So paf or government as doing wait and see policy but hopefully will get j31 once China start induction these in their PLANAF
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Hi

plz name one modern western aircraft that is not unstable.
That is not the issue.
The issue is to develop completely new flight control software for an aircraft where you have very little information, so it is going to take a long time to create the MLU package and be very expensive. So you buy something today, and the MLU version will be available in 2035-2040.
 

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PAF needs a better solution to Rafale than JF-17 block III and F16 block 50/52.

IAF allowed itself to be outgunned by focusing on platform acquisitions, rather than weapon system and sensor upgrades. With sufficient military foresight, the IAF could have armed its Su-30MKI with longer range air-to-air missiles acquired from Russia rather than continuing to rely on the lesser ranged missile ordered years ago from Ukraine,” IAF veteran Thakur asserted.
 

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PAF needs a better solution to Rafale than JF-17 block III and F16 block 50/52.

IAF allowed itself to be outgunned by focusing on platform acquisitions, rather than weapon system and sensor upgrades. With sufficient military foresight, the IAF could have armed its Su-30MKI with longer range air-to-air missiles acquired from Russia rather than continuing to rely on the lesser ranged missile ordered years ago from Ukraine,” IAF veteran Thakur asserted.
India can afford to be outgunned by Pakistan. Pakistan cannot.
 

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India can afford to be outgunned by Pakistan. Pakistan cannot.
For Pakistan which cannot be outgunned, this should alarm PAF. India tested k-77 which is new Russian missile with it's own aesa seeker and range much greater than our amraam. India also bought Barak-8 Israeli missiles.

British short range missile also ordered by IAF. They are even buying more su-30s for next coming aerial attack and plan. Pakistan must integrate pl-15 on at least block 2. they already tested couple of missiles.during Trump Khan meeting,imran Khan should ask Trump to provide either amraam c-7 or amraam d series or Amraam-X.we need new missiles for our f-16s and JF17s fleet from all over the world now.
 

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For Pakistan which cannot be outgunned, this should alarm PAF. India tested k-77 which is new Russian missile with it's own aesa seeker and range much greater than our amraam. India also bought Barak-8 Israeli missiles.

British short range missile also ordered by IAF. They are even buying more su-30s for next coming aerial attack and plan. Pakistan must integrate pl-15 on at least block 2. they already tested couple of missiles.during Trump Khan meeting,imran Khan should ask Trump to provide either amraam c-7 or amraam d series or Amraam-X.we need new missiles for our f-16s and JF17s fleet from all over the world now.
If Pakistan is outgunned, a new 1971 will happen. But if India is outgunned (27 Feb), it is just a balance of power. And Pakistan knows it.

If Pakistan is outgunned, a new 1971 will happen. But if India is outgunned (27 Feb), it is just a balance of power. And Pakistan knows it.
That is why, Pakistan will try to outgun India again, because it is necessary for Peace.
 

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If Pakistan is outgunned, a new 1971 will happen. But if India is outgunned (27 Feb), it is just a balance of power. And Pakistan knows it.


That is why, Pakistan will try to outgun India again, because it is necessary for Peace.
1971 was an anomaly. People should stop mentioning it as a reflection of the power differential between the two countries. No country can defend a territory that’s thousands of miles away against a popular uprising and a supported by an enemy next door. 1971 will never happen on current day Pakistan and India has never made any serious incursions into Pakistani territory. 1965 is a wonderful example to illustrate this.

Yes, Pakistan should address the Rafale threat by obtaining second hand F-16s and upgrading its current F-16 inventory with latest technology. India can buy whatever weapon it wants, from 2000-2019, it was one of the largest weapons importer in the world and still lost pretty horrible. It’s Israeli SAMs and SU-30MKI were either running from the battle space or shooting down friendly aircraft from the air.
 

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