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The JF-17 is the strongest candidate to become Argentine Air Force future fighter jet

By Dario Leone
Nov 17 2022

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The bid submitted for the JF-17 weapon system complies with all the requirements established by the Argentine Air Force.

Details were given on the requirements established by the Argentine Air Force (FAA) and the models studied for its future supersonic multi-role fighter in a September report provided by the Chief of Cabinet of Ministers to the Argentine Congress, Aviacionline Defensa reports.

Deputies of PRO (opposition party to the current Government) made the following diagnosis before asking questions to the Chief of Cabinet about the future incorporation of a supersonic fighter for the Argentine Air Force (FAA):

«At present, only a handful of A-4AR aircraft are in limited operational conditions. The aforementioned complement is not even a deterrent, much less sufficient to guarantee the integrity of the vast national territory.

Not only are the current capabilities patently insufficient, but they have also become dangerous for aviators, which could result in invaluable human losses of highly qualified military personnel. The situation of the equipment and its capabilities is serious and dangerous, affects the fundamental function of the force and allows the infringement of national sovereignty.»


The FAA established the following requirements the Chief of Staff said:

  • Multi-role supersonic fighter.
  • In-flight refueling capability compatible with the FAA’s existing refueling aircraft.
  • Airborne electronically scanning radar (AESA).
  • Tactical Data Link capability.
  • Electronic self-defense capability.
  • Logistic and temporal potential and projection.
  • No components of British origin.
  • Availability (supply) for the use of armament.
The models under evaluation are the following:

  • JF-17
  • F-16
  • HAL TEJAS
  • MIG-35
There is no mention of the Israeli offer for the Kfir.

The bid submitted for the JF-17 weapon system complies with all the requirements established by the FAA and includes according to the information submitted by the Argentine Ministry of Defense:

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Visit of the Argentine Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to Pakistan, where he had a first-hand look at the JF-17 Block III offered.
  • Technology transfer to national companies
  • Spare parts
  • Simulators
  • Instruction for personnel
  • WS-13 engines of Chinese origin
  • Ejector seat of Chinese origin
  • Short- and medium-range air-to-air missiles (BVR capability)
  • Ninety percent compatibility with JF-17 Block IIIs being manufactured by Pakistan for its own Air Force
  • All material is free of restrictions
The JF-17 Thunder is a single-engine multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation of China. The builders say that the JF-17 can be used for multiple roles, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship, and aerial reconnaissance.

58% of the JF-17 airframe, including its front fuselage, wings, and vertical stabiliser, is produced in Pakistan, whereas 42% is produced in China, with the final assembly taking place in Pakistan.

The JF-17 Block III is the latest version of this type with a new electronically scanned radar as well as advanced electronics.

Second-hand Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets such as those offered by the US so far, could not meet the requirements (they lack AESA radar and they can’t be refueled by FAA KC-130H aircraft).

Anyway, while it is clear that there is a higher degree of knowledge about the JF-17 than about the other weapon systems mentioned, and that negotiations with China have been more in-depth than with the other bidders, all is not yet said and done.

In fact India is actively advertising its Tejas light fighter for the FAA, which was specifically mentioned in the work agenda established by the two countries to strengthen their bilateral cooperation.

Meanwhile the US will do everything possible to prevent Argentina from buying Chinese or Russian defense material, so as not to allow the establishment of military relations with its geopolitical opponents in the region.

As already reported, the FAA has been searching for a new supersonic fighter aircraft since when the Dassault Mirage III interceptor fleet was retired in 2015.

It looks like the UK is the biggest hurdle: in the last years in fact Argentina tried to purchase JAS-39 Gripen fighters from Sweden and KAI FA-50 Fighting Eagle jets from South Korea but since these aircraft use British equipment such as ejection seats built by Martin Baker, the UK blocked both the options.

The same may happen to the Tejas because of the British manufactured parts in the aircraft.

According to Janes, other potential solutions that have been reported included surplus Spanish Mirage F1s and Tranche 1 Eurofighter Typhoons, Leonardo M-346FA/FTs, CAC J-10s, and Aero L-159s. Even the Sukhoi Su-24 ‘Fencer’ (although this is widely believed to have been a hoax) and the new Sukhoi Checkmate were touted.

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Photo credit: Asuspine via Wikimedia Commons, Peng Chen – Flickr: Pakistan airforce FC-1 Xiao Long and Argentine Air Force

 

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The only hurdle will be budget and pro US party in Argentina government. But one thing for sure, they are all united on the issue of Falkland. Even the most hardcore Argentina US supporter will be hard to argue against reclaim of Falkland.
 

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Man if any country buys jf-17 after garbage regime change government in Pakistan of corrupted wallas, I will be the first to make YouTube video in favor!!!

Not that I am the first one to make vlog but I don't see it happening with other nations fulfilling requirements of Argentina.
 

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I dont know if they are ever going to buy new fighters becos they have been shopping around for many years now, just shopping around though.
 

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More of Argentina is no idiot to buy a fighter plane that cant attack Falkland.

That's why this whole thread is silly for even mentioning the F-16 being in the running.

The only way Argentina will pick the F-16 is if the other three (JF-17, HAL Tejas, and Mig-35) are somehow considered even more unacceptable due to unreliability or something.
 
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The only hurdle will be budget and pro US party in Argentina government. But one thing for sure, they are all united on the issue of Falkland. Even the most hardcore Argentina US supporter will be hard to argue against reclaim of Falkland.
Not only that. Apparently they are not happy with some the avionics glitches that are yet to be resolved on the JF-17 program.
 

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Too slow and too long……should’ve bought it already by now

Certainly is waaaaaaay too long. Maybe they will decide on some used planes from Saab or Dassault...but even then they will have to deal with the UK pulling some strings to cripple any upgrades.

Making enemies with the UK means your defense options become limited very very quickly.
 
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Not only that. Apparently they are not happy with some the avionics glitches that are yet to be resolved on the JF-17 program.
I have not heard of any glitches. If there really is a problem. Their defence wouldnt even bother to submit the procurement proposal for JF-17. It all up to Argentina congress to approve and release the fund.

That’s not good, then that means this glitch is impacting out fleet as well?
Dont be a soft ear and listen to unfound rumours.

That's why this whole thread is silly for even mentioning the F-16 being in the running.

The only way Argentina will pick the F-16 is if the other three (JF-17, HAL Tejas, and Mig-35) are somehow considered even more unacceptable due to unreliability or something.
(Not talking about you) But there is still some idiots who keep insist F-16 is in the forerun,, Despite having zero situation of Argentina for procuring these fighter.
 
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I have not heard of any glitches. If there really is a problem. Their defence wouldnt even bother to submit the procurement proposal for JF-17. It all up to Argentina congress to approve and release the fund.


Dont be a soft ear and listen to unfound rumours.


(Not talking about you) But there is still some idiots who keep insist F-16 is in the forerun,, Despite having zero situation of Argentina for procuring these fighter.

If somehow in the very very very very very unlikely event that they somehow pick the F-16 I think those other 3 fighter makers should realize they had a free plate and completely blew it.
 

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