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The Eagle

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Indeed, Afghanistan is graveyard of empires came to Afghanistan to conquer. On other hand, China is a investor in this case and will try to make sure for security and may even talk to all the stack holders for surety. I don't know how an Editorial couldn't distinguish between invaders and investor? Had it do anything with non Muslim thing, even the Indians are allowed in Afghanistan for apparently investing opportunities and building Afghanistan. Though, their intentions are already exposed but that's another case. China isn't the empire like, now buried in Afghanistan graveyard.

However, given the security risks etc, one can argue that Chinese investment may go down the drain but again, I have an example as how India maintained and didn't complain. Isn't that interesting? Bet it, India wouldn't and cannot complain.
Back then Taliban slaughtered Russians like pigs. These days Chinese have attack drones that slaughter Taliban like pigs. Gotta love technology.




Mind your language and yours high horse. Furthermore,

Except for your so-called forum name, you seems to be the enemy of China in this case. Just don't do that unless, you have the job to do so.
 

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I don't know how an Editorial couldn't distinguish between invaders and investor?
There seems to be a coordinated effort to spin Chinas obvious interest in keeping neighbouring Afghanistan secure and stable never mind constructive business interests, into some kind of invasion/intervention plot and as usual more importantly a talking point. Lots of articles by our "indpendent" US and US linked media friends coming out about this lately.
 

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There seems to be a coordinated effort to spin Chinas obvious interest in keeping neighbouring Afghanistan secure and stable never mind constructive business interests, into some kind of invasion/intervention plot and as usual more importantly a talking point. Lots of articles by our "indpendent" US and US linked media friends coming out about this lately.
The cold war shifted to China now. CIA will sponsor anything that could be handy in this job. From religious Instigation to invader terminology as such given the Deep Pockets having media on disposal, it can be anything merely to hurt one's interests.

20 years ago, Pakistan suggested a peaceful way/talks for a way to flush out terrorism in Afghanistan but, since it was a campaign to establish a permanent presence so that US can police the region especially against Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan; suggestion wasn't taken seriously but paid heavily in the end beside not so honourable exit.

US only achievement in Afghanistan was bombing the nation, adding numbers to the list of invasions while pushing Afghanistan further into the past while turning itself into an invader from the status of once a supporter.
 

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Indeed, Afghanistan is graveyard of empires came to Afghanistan to conquer. On other hand, China is a investor in this case and will try to make sure for security and may even talk to all the stack holders for surety. I don't know how an Editorial couldn't distinguish between invaders and investor? Had it do anything with non Muslim thing, even the Indians are allowed in Afghanistan for apparently investing opportunities and building Afghanistan. Though, their intentions are already exposed but that's another case. China isn't the empire like, now buried in Afghanistan graveyard.

However, given the security risks etc, one can argue that Chinese investment may go down the drain but again, I have an example as how India maintained and didn't complain. Isn't that interesting? Bet it, India wouldn't and cannot complain.


Mind your language and yours high horse. Furthermore,

Except for your so-called forum name, you seems to be the enemy of China in this case. Just don't do that unless, you have the job to do so.
The English came to India as traders. As some point Chinese will discover they cannot be passive investors
 

The Eagle

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The English came to India as traders. As some point Chinese will discover they cannot be passive investors
Those English were loved and accepted by the then Congress. Only today's Pakistan, back then started to oppose. However that's another story.

I don't see yet China taking on any country by way of investment but on other hand, invading the nation is explained and defended despite the fact that there were no WMDs in Iraq.

Hate China but at least, one must have a strong point to argue.
 

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the op sounds profusely butthurt by the defeat of his western masters in the land known as the graveyard of empires. me, being the troll that I am, will rub in more salt into that bleeding butthurt; :lol:

CHINA HAS HISTORICALLY NEVER INVADED ANYONE! not Afghanistan nor india nor Russia nor central asia, no one. China and Taliban have already made an alliance where the Taliban are inviting Chinese investments and thanks to Chinese policy of noninterference (unlike the op's masters' policy of constantly interfering), Taliban are very comfortable that there won't be any Chinese delegation arriving anytime soon or in the far future telling Taliban how they should treat their women or how they should free their media or what have you silly in exchange the Taliban have given ironclad guarantees that they will neither interfere in Xinjiang nor will they let the likesof alqaeda/daesh interfere in Xinjiang. The Taliban will have intelligence & military assistance from both Pakistan, China AND Russia to make sure that these stooges of the cia don't get to make inroads and gain a foothold. Afghans get jobs & tax revenue while China gets profits & nvestment opportunities. It's a win win without having a single boot on the ground. neither will interfere in the internal matters of the other.

so to make this ludicrous claim that "the graveyard of empires calls to China", know that China is simply going to give what the Afghans have always asked for and the west could never understand nor figure out; BUSINESS & TRADE!
 

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No, that is empahtically not the case. How many attacks did Netherlands get from Afghanistan before or after 9/11? In fact how many attacks did Europe get from Afghanistan before or after 9/11? In fact Europe got more dangerous because it decided to stand by USA.

The 9/11 attack had nothing to do with Europe least of all Netherlands. It had everthing to do with US imperial policies in Middle East with regards to Israel and stationing soldiers in Saudia. This is what drove the 9/11 terrorists and OBL.

No you won't. While you were 'pruning' this triggered a avalanche of refugees from Afghanistan, Syria, Libya which flooded Europe. In addition with collapse pf Gaddafi's Libya millions of XXX sized Christians are now heading to Europe from Sub Saharan Africa who will begin to prune your women while your stuck in these stupid wars.

If you call this success I would not want to know what defeat would look like.
By any chance did you got aware of the pruning women fact when millions of Afghans refugees went to pakistan?

No wonder Afghans don’t wana go back home anymore
 
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Military presence may accompany the extension of the Belt and Road Initiative to Afghanistan
All I needed to read was that it's published by Financial Times, a Zionist-Western propaganda mouth piece.

It is plain and clear for anyone with critical thinking, to discern what the Zionist owned and controlled Western Media is doing. The West wants China entangled in a China vs Islam plot. By doing so, it would sow the seeds of divide between China and the Islamic World, which led by a bunch of rascals like the Najdis and Turks (saud, emirati, qatari, kuwaiti and bahraini wahhabi elites). As a consequence of which the West would attempt to shift the spotlight away from itself (it's forever wars against Muslim countries) and in the hope that China would be caught up in a Three Front War. Japan/South-Korea in the East, india/australia in the South and Uyghur/Turkey/Central-Asian-Republics in the West .... all led by the Zionist-West at the top of whom sits america.
 

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The Chinese never in their history has invaded another country. They have never invaded the sub-continent.

OP is just crying because the White man is running away with his tail between his legs.

China has no need to go to afganistan.it is the dream of delusional indians.

If anything, it is india who should be worried about the usa withdrawl. Maybe send an IA brigade or 2 to protect the government in kabul?
 

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Military presence may accompany the extension of the Belt and Road Initiative to Afghanistan
A boy sells dried fruit on a street in Kabul, Afghanistan

A boy sells dried fruit on a street in Kabul, Afghanistan [emoji767] Omar Sobhani/Reuters

Afghanistan is not known as the graveyard of empires for nothing. Alexander the Great, the British empire, the Soviet Union and now mighty America, all have been humbled in their attempts to conquer this fierce country. Now China, the world’s nascent superpower, risks falling into the same trap before it has even properly begun its own neo-imperial project.

As America’s longest war draws to a close before the symbolic date of September 11 2021, China’s leaders and foreign policy thinkers are struggling with contradictory impulses. On the one hand, Beijing has always felt the US campaigns in Afghanistan were part of a new “Great Game” intended to encircle, contain and potentially destabilise China, which shares a small strip of border with the country. So America’s final humiliating withdrawal and potential re-establishment of Taliban control in the country is welcomed from that perspective.

On the other hand, the looming power vacuum has the potential to create chaos in a country that could destabilise the entire region. A renewed civil war could attract jihadist forces that are already turning their attention to what several western governments have described as the “genocide” of China’s Muslim Uyghur population just across the border. Beijing is especially worried about Uyghur fighters returning from Syria, where a small number have fought alongside Isis.

Early this month, foreign ministers from China, Afghanistan and Pakistan met to discuss security arrangements following the US pullout from the country. China has also courted the Taliban and has even held out the offer of infrastructure and rebuilding projects to the group. Beijing is hoping to extend its grand Belt and Road infrastructure construction project from its main branch in Pakistan up into Afghanistan and is optimistic this can help provide stability to the war-torn country.

Having witnessed and welcomed America’s overextension in its “forever wars” of the last two decades and with memories of the Soviet experience in Afghanistan in the 1980s, the last thing China’s leaders want is to become bogged down in their own Afghan quagmire. Beijing considers the US entanglements in Afghanistan and Iraq after the 9/11 terrorist attacks mostly as a foreign policy distraction that provided a window of opportunity for a more assertive China.

Now the White House has publicly said it is ending the war in part to free up resources to meet the challenge of this rising power. The expectation that Beijing will get sucked into the country may well have played a part in President Biden’s decision to leave.

Beijing’s plan to extend the Belt and Road into Afghanistan is fraught with danger. In most other countries, these projects have been carried out with Chinese loans paying for Chinese workers to build roads, railways, ports and bridges. But thanks in part to the treatment of Uyghurs in Xinjiang, Chinese contractors have already been targeted in parts of Pakistan. Given the much greater danger in Afghanistan and the political cost for Xi Jinping if workers come home in body bags, it is likely that any Belt and Road project in the country would have to be accompanied by a significant security presence.

Advisers to the Chinese Communist party have already recommended that China send peacekeeping troops to the country under the auspices of the United Nations to protect the “safety and interests” of Chinese people and companies there. Such missions have a habit of spiralling into much deeper engagement. President Xi should heed the lessons of history and avoid the fate of other would-be empires.



Let me clarify this meth.
Alexander the Great got stiff resistance but became sick, so he left the campaign in the middle. As for the British empire, todays Afghanistan did not fight with them it was the Pakistan part of The pashtun belt that fought and stopped them -
Now everyone knows the Soviets were defeated mostly by Pakistan by supporting the Afghans and same can be said for the American defeat.
 

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China may target specific terrorist group at one or two particular sites in some part of the world but will undertake no invasion. It's against the political ideology of China and the Chinese will never agree to accommodate the immieant immigrants that would incur due to an invasion,Chinese gov will not cross that sensitive nerve with the Chinese.When one wages war on a third world nation the nation must also be prepared to accommodate those displaced from their home in the process,thus seen in EU and USA.
 
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The English came to India as traders. As some point Chinese will discover they cannot be passive investors
Since west has already employed this strategy, the east India company model of colonization, they might be under the impression that other nations will go the same route.
 

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