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The effect of Turkish Drones in the Azerbaijan - Armenia War

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Against small and primitive defense country. Drone are effective but if 2 strong defense countries with advance air defense radar going ahead. Most of these drones will be sitting duck. That is why drone are mostly suitable against terrorist or primitive engagements.

 

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several anti air systems had been destroyed including s300 if that does not mean anything than let us call it primitive system

 

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Against small and primitive defense country. Drone are effective but if 2 strong defense countries with advance air defense radar going ahead. Most of these drones will be sitting duck. That is why drone are mostly suitable against terrorist or primitive engagements.

Firing sophisticated s300 etc against a cheap drone...un sustainable
 

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Against small and primitive defense country. Drone are effective but if 2 strong defense countries with advance air defense radar going ahead. Most of these drones will be sitting duck. That is why drone are mostly suitable against terrorist or primitive engagements.

Have heard this story first in Syria, which is a country with a proper AA system established by Russians and also assisted by their naval (long range radars) and land based advanced assets (S400) during operations of UAVs, and the country which downed the most drones.
Armenia had layered and again a proper AD system installation which is again established by Russians. Yet they lacked a proper training and assist from Russian assets, thus their systems hunted like chickens with almost no loss of UAVs except of Kamikaze drones.
We shouldn't ignore the power of Electronic Warfare, both in safe operation of UAVs and also in countering them.

Drones are new kind of anti-symmetric warfare, deployed in mass numbers, operated remotely in addition to kamikaze drones which is fairly cheap as much as a smart munition. No threat of loosing personnel, can be replaced in a day, the same experienced personnel runs another craft in the next day, most of operation is automated so that the operator does not suffer fatigue.
 
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Have heard this story first in Syria, which is a country with a proper AA system established by Russians and also assisted by their naval and land based advanced assets.
Armenia had layered and again a proper AD systems which is again established by Russians.
We shouldn't ignore the power of Electronic Warfare.
The russian is unprepared first and didnt move proper air defense into syria initially. Tell me how is your mighty drone doing now in Syria?


Firing sophisticated s300 etc against a cheap drone...un sustainable
Is S300 , the only air defense missile in the world?
 

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The russian is unprepared first and didnt move proper air defense into syria initially. Tell me how is your mighty drone doing now in Syria?



Is S300 , the only air defense missile in the world?
By the time operations took place in Syria there were ships deployed in Lattakia, and S400 deployed in Russian bases in addition to layered AD system established by Russians and Operated by Syrian Army.
Was Armenia also unprepared? Checking out the AD systems they have lost, they seem to deploy a proper AD distributed in a area which could be considered as an A2D.
We should come to realization of that Drones are a major threat and changing course of the wars. This is not about ethnicity of the drones. Even rebel groups can assemble simple drones from commercially available parts and launch coordinated attacks.
 

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By the time operations took place in Syria there were ships deployed in Lattakia, and S400 deployed in Russian bases in addition to layered AD system established by Russians and Operated by Syrian Army.
Is Armenia also unprepared? Checking out the AD systems they have lost, they seem to deploy a proper AD distributed in a area which could be considered as an A2D.
Then tell me why is turkish drone not working for syria rebel or change the tide of war in rebel favour now that it needs massive reinforcement from central turkey army?
 

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Then tell me why is turkish drone not working for syria rebel or change the tide of war in rebel favour now that it needs massive reinforcement from central turkey army?
This is de-railing the topic, why don't you ask this in dedicated threads concerning Syria, so people who knows better may answer?
Probably you have watched videos of Drone assault on Syrian army during clashes.
 

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This is de-railing the topic, why don't you ask this in dedicated threads concerning Syria, so people who knows better may answer?
Probably you have watched videos of Drone assault on Syrian army during clashes.
Those are old video of initial success in February being recycle recently. Syria army and Russia are now tip the tide of war and ready for massive assault against all rebel holding.
 

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lol türkish drones not effective in syria.. that would even make donkeys laugh..

every operation carried out of turkey was sucessfull.. due of lack of will and proper political plan they stopped because of again political reasons.. everytime türkish operations started it showed us one thing:

a Devastation effect

drones combined with electronic warefare , artillery and pin point accurance ballistic rocket systems are devastating for the enemy..

and azerbaycan showed us again how useless russian air defence systems are in such a scenario.. people saying untrained personal is a false claim.. the problem lies in the old sovjet technology these things are designed to down fighter jets.. and not small propellered aircrafts made out of composite materials some of this radars are to old to detect such vehicle and also they are prone agaisnt electronic warfare..

but I also bet russians will begin to build air defence systems and radars against this kind of threat the upcoming years (this is something every nation is now interested in) specially after jet powered stealth uavs will be more and more come into the scene
 

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Against small and primitive defense country. Drone are effective but if 2 strong defense countries with advance air defense radar going ahead. Most of these drones will be sitting duck. That is why drone are mostly suitable against terrorist or primitive engagements.


yeah we did see it in Yemen, Chinese drone shot down by old sovjet junks and Turkish destroying S300... :p:
 

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