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the comfortable muslims of yesteryears and the pious muslims of now

Discussion in 'World Affairs' started by jamahir, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. jamahir

    jamahir ELITE MEMBER

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    true words, yours and the song... and it is especially sad that islam which came about to simplify life, remove oppression and has practical rules and simple credos to achieve this, has seen this saddening trend from time to time but especially in the last 30+ years, of muslims using anti-intellectual "logic" to impose the dictatorship of the priests upon the muslim masses.

    connected to this, your words and the song reminded me of a scene in the satire/educating film "pk" ( aamir khan's ) where pk goes near a college and soon successfully gets the students to fear divine anger ( and subsequent failure in exam ) if they didn't do certain rituals as generally prescribed by the priests... baad ke jannat aur jahannum ke chakkar mey bohot musalmaan yahaan ke jannaton ko jahannum bana dete hain.

    and to the point of "we are nothing but dust and to the dust we shall return", it reminds me of similar words which can be related to here - the famous attributed three wishes of sikandar-e-aazam :

    @Mentee spoke above of ijtihad and of muslim history of the last 50 years, ijtihad is need the most now... if it was iqbal 70 years ago, attempt must be made to present the words of his kind at global scale, among muslims and outside.
     
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    Nailed it sir. Actually if it was not for IQBAL we would not have seen dr ali shareati, the revolutions in iran , central asia and many more things
     
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    The mad man is back. And this time his luminaries of socialism include Bhutto.
     
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    Mentee SENIOR MEMBER

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    bhutto was not a socialist----- an evil genious though-- who knew how to manipulate things----
     
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    1 thing for sure I dont think you know the meaning of the word "pious"
     
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    jamahir ELITE MEMBER

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    well, you could have posted your understanding of it. :D
     
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    I assumed you knew esp since you used it! Which later you demonstrated you dont actually even know!
     
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    jamahir ELITE MEMBER

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    congrats for your victory of the evening. :D

    *cough, cough... cough, cough, cough ( i need strepsils )* did you read the op??
     
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    Nahh...the title doesnt do it justice.....When you present something with a falsified title why would I waste my time thinking maybe the rest makes sense?
     
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    will write something about this tomorrow
    In Shaa Allah
     
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    Jf Thunder SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is the conclusion I drew from reading the above.
    Every Muslim country that got indepedence, was due to either secular or socialist parties, while they were opposed by the so called "religious parties" and surprisngly once the countries were independet, the same mullahs who opposed it, started to influence the country's policies until


    this
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    turned into this
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    and


    this
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    turned into this
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    All leftist neo-liberal terrorists ... Who turned into despots and mass killers

    Fail!