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The Burning South: India-Pakistan conflict in 2026 - A hypothetical scenario simulated. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM TROLLING OR JINGOISM

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On the contrary, i have seen terrorists getting hit by 5.56 2-3 times, all body / abdomen shots, but still fighting....however, a single hit from 7.62 is normally enough to neutralize someone.
the reason Americans are moving towards 6.5 Creedmoor
 

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Sirji apko mera dhanyawad .
Many idiots were calming that 7.62 mm round is bad , indian army is idiot that they want a rifle with 7.62 as a standard issue and a kalash round can't travel beyond 300 m , as after that bullet drops.
Your explanation will silence them for good



This means that round dosent matter , instead its the shooters ability to fire accurately is what matters .
Thanks again saab
Bullet drop issue for 7.62x39 is real. A bullet with bigger cross section and less muzzle velocity would experience much more air resistance than the slimmer bullet. And would experience much more pronounced drop in it's ballistic path. Simple Physics!

The amount of damage a bullet can have depends on various factors at different ranges by using different kinds of ammo. It's entirely another topic.

Its the ballistics of these rounds

7.62 mm rounds hits a body it creates a shock plum, shredding every tissue though and mostly passing the other side. Its instant death if hit anywhere in the body center. Very useful in Coin operations.

5.56 mm nato rounds are designed to deflect on impact, once it enters the body the round moves towards soft tissue mass (center of the body rather than exiting through the ribcage). It will cause severe internal bleeding requiring immediate medical attention. This will free up two more soldiers as they need to carry away the single injured from the battle zone. Its kind of very useful in war rather than insurgencies.

Why indian army chose either rounds is a debate for later. It had to do a compromise between length of the barrel for an urban warfare vs the round ballistics. And at last there is the effectiveness of either round against body armor, thats a story for another day.
Do your army face dudes with body armor in coin Ops?
 
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Hi sir, any updates! First bullet fired till now or are we waiting for the upcoming Eid to pass peacefully? Without any action! 😊

And there were some casualties in an extended military stand off between Pakistan and India during Musharraf's era, without firing even a single bullet at each other.

If either side has suffered any casualties or loss of equipment till now then shouldn't you report that as well in form of some news bulletin?
 
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If the actual war extends to multiple weeks or may be months 🤔 if I am not exaggerating it already! And India's oil supply from the gulf is cut off by the Pak Navy from day 1. What would be India's options then?

On the other hand would PAK Navy be successful in protecting it's ports, coastlines from the Indian naval blockade? If yes then for how long? Can CPEC route remain intact for long? In my opinion these scenarios might have crucial impact on overall war efforts and their outcomes.
 

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Hi sir, any updates! First bullet fired till now or are we waiting for the upcoming Eid to pass peacefully? Without any action! 😊
We are waiting for Pakistan to get ready so that we can make our surprise attack! Hurry them up, will you?

If either side has suffered any casualties or loss of equipment till now then shouldn't you report that as well in form of some news bulletin?
We are still in April 2026. No damage to report yet.

What would be India's options then?
Hmm. That could be a problem. Looks like we will have to sink the Pak Navy.

On the other hand would PAK Navy be successful in protecting it's ports, coastlines from the Indian naval blockade?
For a while, yes.

If yes then for how long?
For as long as the Indian Navy can't get at them, I imagine.

Can CPEC route remain intact for long?
I think - I suspect - that will remain untouched as long as the beneficiary remains on the sidelines.

In my opinion these scenarios might have crucial impact on overall war efforts and their outcomes.
You have a point.
 

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Hmm. That could be a problem. Looks like we will have to sink the Pak Navy.
Well Pak Navy by then would have at least 4 more brand new AIP Submarines delivered by China if not 6 or more. Those 4 would effectively more than double the amount of modern submarines currently in use by the PN.

I think - I suspect - that will remain untouched as long as the beneficiary remains on the sidelines.
China would be insane if it directly intervenes in this conflict. Then it could easily be escalated to WW3 if US/NATO responds or the mysterious "Quad" has even any face value. Indo-Pak conflict then couldn't even make up to the front pages of the international newspapers after that.

On the contrary China might frustrate India to defeat by constantly supplying Pak Armed Forces with arms and ammunition and constantly replenishing the losses of fighter jets, artillery, tanks etc on the Pakistani side. China has hands down, the biggest manufacturing prowess in the world. And in return cash on spoils of war after the conflict ends. Might also buy a huge influence on Pakistan by then. Pakistan would also definitely benefit from Chinese military intelligence and access to their satellites as well. As India has some similar privileges with NATO through Quad alliance. At most China might place a small token fleet of it's Navy near Gwadar port to secure it's CPEC route. China might retaliate in kind if any of their assets get hurt in the process. Any unprovoked aggression from the China is utter foolishness and should be out of the question. While US-China can play their typical sanctions games to their heart's content on the sidelines.

That way India couldn't do anything to stop this from happening without facing some serious reprecursions from China as well. Like today's Nato-Russia issue in context of the Ukraine war.

There are a lot of unprecedented, new lessons to learn from this Ukraine conflict. Like if Pakistan somehow gets their hands on a lot of ATGMs then they can immediately raise many brand new PBIs as ATGM teams etc. The capable young people for military duty are almost unlimited on both sides of the border. Urban warfare would be a nightmare for either military. So better bombard it from some safe distance, reduce them to rubble and then bypass those major cities instead of commiting a mistake to enter them. That would be messy and bloodiest battles of the human history indeed.
 
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Well Pak Navy by then would have at least 4 more brand new AIP Submarines delivered by China if not 6 or more. Those 4 would effectively more than double the amount of modern submarines currently in use by the PN.
Yes, we thought about that, also the probable increase in surface boats, especially corvettes of the Turkish type. We also thought about our own fleet strength, and realised we had three times the number we needed for various types of vessel. So we SHOULD be able to 'cope'.

China would be insane if it directly intervenes in this conflict. Then it could easily be escalated to WW3 if US/NATO responds or the mysterious "Quad" has even any face value. Indo-Pak conflict then couldn't even make up to the front pages of the international newspapers after that.
Agree.

On the contrary China might frustrate India to defeat by constantly supplying Pak Armed Forces with arms and ammunition and constantly replenishing the losses of fighter jets, artillery, tanks etc on the Pakistani side. China has hands down, the biggest manufacturing prowess in the world. And in return cash on spoils of war after the conflict ends. Might also buy a huge influence on Pakistan by then. Pakistan would also definitely benefit from Chinese military intelligence and access to their satellites as well.
We know that we will have an advantage in terms of attrition of assets on the Pakistani side for a brief period, and after that, the PRC would make it its life mission to bring Pakistan back to normal.

One of the indirect war objectives would, in fact, have to do with this relationship of Pakistan and the PRC. We would like to see the relationship getting closer. So far, no country has benefited from Chinese support. We believe that it is a poisoned apple, To get further aid from China will mean paying a price - somewhere. Nobody knows, not even the Chinese, where that would be, and when.

As India has some similar privileges with NATO through Quad alliance.
We have had our own satellite surveillance capability for more than two decades now. What we do not have is the sophistication available from the surveillance mechanisms of the US. Ours is much simpler.
 
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At most China might place a small token fleet of it's Navy near Gwadar port to secure it's CPEC route. China might retaliate in kind if any of their assets get hurt in the process.
That also has been taken into account, and any interference by the PLA N will lead to gunfire.

That way India couldn't do anything to stop this from happening without facing some serious reprecursions from China as well. Like today's Nato-Russia issue in context of the Ukraine war.
We don't want to stop it, we want to encourage it, and let the matter develop naturally.

Like if Pakistan somehow gets their hands on a lot of ATGMs then they can immediately raise many brand new PBIs as ATGM teams etc
If you check with PanzerKiel, you already have a huge number of ATGMs, however, I suppose a few more can always help.

So better bombard it from some safe distance, reduce them to rubble
Why on earth should we bombard a city, any city?
 

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Why on earth should we bombard a city, any city?
So how do you plan to gain some area in vital territories of central Punjab of Pakistan? Which is full of urban centers, Towns and villages. Lahore and many other smaller adjoining cities would be a huge hurdle on border if you don't wanna take on/Neutralize the populated areas! Are you going to make the same mistake as the Russian troops did? Hoping that locals would welcome them with open arms in Ukraine. But that matter is much more straightforward and clear in this region.

Or do you have plans to achieve your goals without making any territorial gains 😜.
 

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So how do you plan to gain some area in vital territories of central Punjab of Pakistan? Which is full of urban centers, Towns and villages. Lahore and many other smaller adjoining cities would be a huge hurdle on border if you don't wanna take on/Neutralize the populated areas! Are you going to make the same mistake as the Russian troops did? Hoping that locals would welcome them with open arms in Ukraine. But that matter is much more straightforward and clear in this region.

Or do you have plans to achieve your goals without making any territorial gains 😜.
No operational plans out here
You will just have to sed.. and the Indian side is being generous to allow the Pakistani side to accomodate for Ramadan slowdowns in productivity.. although it could be an Eid attack too.
 
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