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Really, when was the last time did i disappoint you. Please don't give up and read to your hearts content, if not satisfied, i can give more sources.

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Again Unverified article Although Article Also addressed that Pakistan Financial problem in this Line As it States Dassault claims: "Pakistan's interest in the Mirage 2000-5 is real and high, but financial problems are there:lol:. We're still in the race." So, it another J-10B Like of situation for PAF were deal Cancelled because of Financial Constraints whats New in that :disagree::disagree:
 

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Again Unverified article Although Article Also addressed that Pakistan Financial problem in this Line As it States Dassault claims: "Pakistan's interest in the Mirage 2000-5 is real and high, but financial problems are there:lol:. We're still in the race." So, it another J-10B Like of situation for PAF were deal Cancelled because of Financial Constraints whats New in that :disagree::disagree:
And what's a verified article in your small world, ??? isn't the source aka Veens Singh /New Delhi enough to put your anxious mind to rest, the idea was to enlighten you about the SU-27 offer however since you are digressing elsewhere, i suggest you remove your saffron goggles and try to comprehend that by that time Pakistan had already paid for F-16s which were sanctioned. And try to come up with some substance rather than acting frivolous and shooting in the dark.
The J-10 episode had nothing to do with financial constraints, why would PAF want J-10s in it's present form, once the Block-52s were released.
 

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And what's a verified article in your small world, ??? isn't the source aka Veens Singh /New Delhi enough to put your anxious mind to rest, the idea was to enlighten you about the SU-27 offer however since you are digressing elsewhere, i suggest you remove your saffron goggles and try to comprehend that by that time Pakistan had already paid for F-16s which were sanctioned. And try to come up with some substance rather than acting frivolous and shooting in the dark.
The J-10 episode had nothing to do with financial constraints, why would PAF want J-10s in it's present form, once the Block-52s were released.
the Article you Posted is almost 21 years old in Random British Magazine .Secondly the Article Talks about Russian Delegation visit about the potential sale of the Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker (Still Lack Clarity) Thirdly .Articles talks about Financial constraints of PAF in buying Mirage-2000 And US Embargo.the Sources you Provide Nothing States that PAF Rejected it Willingly Although it was Due Lack of Financial Resources Clearly Stated in Your Own Source thats makes your Argument Falls Apart and you blaming Me :hitwall::hitwall:
 

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Lack of Satisfactory Evidential proof Regarding Many Parameters of the FOC Disputes Although there some Unverified Credential data is there but not from from credible sources
But that is for YOUR verification. Not the operator or the manufacturers correct?
Essentially that is someone saying that they do not accept that Mars is red because they dont have a telescope to look at it.. not someone who has a telescope.
Hence YOU are NOT an authority on deciding if the FOC is there or not, as such your satisfaction is nothing more than the satisfaction of a Star Wars fan who thinks that Stormtroopers cannot be Black.

The reason I told provide some Official video made by PAF which will help people know about its capabilities like IAF has done, except from videos from air shows etc. Also a dedicated site which tells about the project really well.
That doesnt happen. Unlike India, where even a new Bidet installed in the premises is advertised as an achievement, Pakistanis are so paranoid that they refuse to even advertise if they went to the moon.. infact they wont even install a bidet in the fear that India might do so if they learn about it.
 

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Nice man :) you also a pilot or you work for Pakistan's Defense ministry or something (Don't know how it works there) and also because unluckily Pakistan has never had any twin engine fighters. No offense.

Must be kidding me.

A person who is spending half of his day time posting Indian social threads by googleing to be pilot or defence personal.

Thats hilarious !

There are persons who is in the industry and services of PAF and MoD, but they can be identified by what they post, how they post, and the quality of that post.
 

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That doesnt happen. Unlike India, where even a new Bidet installed in the premises is advertised as an achievement, Pakistanis are so paranoid that they refuse to even advertise if they went to the moon.. infact they wont even install a bidet in the fear that India might do so if they learn about it.
This is just an excuse, even f35 has its own dedicated website and videos, even PAKFA, F 18, Rafale any plane has it. Its just an excuse that you don't like to advertise, yesterday Pakistan fired a Shaheen 3 with 2750 km range. I could see how much it was advertised. Plus any good tech is told about to people rather keeping it secret.

And let's not talk about Pakistan going to moon, I would have a laugh at your space program.
 

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Must be kidding me.

A person who is spending half of his day time posting Indian social threads by googleing to be pilot or defence personal.

Thats hilarious !

There are persons who is in the industry and services of PAF and MoD, but they can be identified by what they post, how they post, and the quality of that post.

Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius. - Fulton.
Firstly congrats for living up to your name as a Munshi and replying on my behalf albeit in the habitual pathetic manner.
Did i claim anywhere to the effect that i'm or was in the PAF or for that matter in any armed service.
It's beyond your comprehension as who and where my contacts lie.
Perhaps you spend your half day doing search on others statistics but i'm sure others don't come on PDF for a job search either.
One can also conclude who is a worthy of what title, certainly a TT's job is not to spend all day trying to salvage his country fellows and think ways of scoring brownies but then if only some qualifications were required to become a TT.
 

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Surely for India LCA is the first step, though it seems too long to take it.
But when can India reduce the producing cost by making the crucial parts indigenously? Using too many imported gears is unbearable.
 

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Surely for India LCA is the first step, though it seems too long to take it.
But when can India reduce the producing cost by making the crucial parts indigenously? Using too many imported gears is unbearable.
True.. Now that we have focused a lot of Pvt players into this area and have allocated funds for the development of SME's with the due support of "Make in India" campaign. Hopefully we might catch up our lost time...
 

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Surely for India LCA is the first step, though it seems too long to take it.
But when can India reduce the producing cost by making the crucial parts indigenously? Using too many imported gears is unbearable.
lets say LCA is obsolete for IAF now (which i thinkits not) but even then please tell me why do Pakistanimembers keep on telling us what we already know and want india to abondon R&D on such programms

are we asking for monitarry help from pakistanies ?

are we not enemy of pakistan ?

i simpli dont get this pakistani fetish for making fun of LCA then can u sir please tell me why pakistanies behave like that rather they should encourage india in keep wasting its tax payers money on this so called "lemon"

or is that they know deep down that in case of war LCA can proove more than a hand full to there air force

but the fact is LCA will never be the spearhead or back bone of any IAF war doctroine against PAF rather it will always play a second if not third or even fourth layer of defnce as IAF has other big boys in its innoventorry and LCA willnever be able to come owt of there shadows

thanks
 

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Really, when was the last time did i disappoint you. Please don't give up and read to your hearts content, if not satisfied, i can give more sources.

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And this is the guy in my avatar, also a dear friend performing in a single engine F-16 over the heart of Islamabad. :D

Well you don't have leisure to showcase twin engine aircrafts ,ab awaam ko kuch toh dikhana hai na.
 

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And what standards would that be .!!
PAF refused both the SU-27 and MiG-29 when offered back in 90s, so where does that put IAF or other Fulcrum and Flanker users..... or maybe it's the operational requirements of an air force that one prefers JF-17 and the other J-10.
because PAF cannot afford twin engine.. only countries with money and resources can field hundreds of twin engine fighters!
 

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