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Windjammer

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Pot shots? :azn: Because I point to the lack of knowledge you showed about the capabilities of PAFs F16s and the J10 "B" which was the one that PAF considered.
Dude, was J-10B even around in 2005 when PAF ordered the F-16s besides even now it's going through a test phase.
 

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This is just an excuse, even f35 has its own dedicated website and videos, even PAKFA, F 18, Rafale any plane has it. Its just an excuse that you don't like to advertise, yesterday Pakistan fired a Shaheen 3 with 2750 km range. I could see how much it was advertised. Plus any good tech is told about to people rather keeping it secret.

And let's not talk about Pakistan going to moon, I would have a laugh at your space program.
Well if you see it that way, no problem. Doesnt give me any sleepless nights over the matter and I have no time for parroted arguments. Feel free NOT to quote me, but avoid repeating the same argument again and again if you cannot it agree to disagree and sit still or you will be given a very different treatment.

Seems like they were considering it well after that, according to your infos.
The J-10 died during the economic murder that was the PPP government. It died in 2011 when the PAF was unable to even meet its operational budget thanks to Mr Zardari and his massive filling of his(and his friends) pockets.. man is VERY likely the undeclared multi-billionaire ahead of many industrialists in the region. The JF-17, SAAB-2000 all had to be bought in on loans and it got to a point even the Chinese were giving us looks on borrowing.
 
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The J-10 died during the economic murder that was the PPP government. It died in 2011 when the PAF was unable to even meet its operational budget...
...The JF-17, SAAB-2000 all had to be bought in on loans and it got to a point even the Chinese were giving us looks on borrowing.
And there are still people that thinks budget constrains wasn't a factor.
 

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Tejas is good, but not as good as initially thought. Tejas Mk 2 still does not have DSI which JF-17 has. DSI is the first 21st century jet technology.
 

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Tejas is good, but not as good as initially thought. Tejas Mk 2 still does not have DSI which JF-17 has. DSI is the first 21st century jet technology.
DSI doesn't need to be there for all jets, even PAKFA doesn't have it, doesn't affect much, JF 17 Just incorporated it because every new Chinese plane is having it and not to forget JF 17 is also a Chinese Development with Pakistan.
 

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DSI doesn't need to be there for all jets, even PAKFA doesn't have it, doesn't affect much, JF 17 Just incorporated it because every new Chinese plane is having it and not to forget JF 17 is also a Chinese Development with Pakistan.

PAK-FA doesn't have it because Russia does not have such a technology. All American and Chinese jets developed since year 2000 use it.
 

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PAK-FA doesn't have it because Russia does not have such a technology. All American and Chinese jets developed since year 2000 use it.
India have that DSI technology . Although we Involved it one step ahead into DTSI technology we use it in Bajaj pulser :cool::cool:
 

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PAK-FA doesn't have it because Russia does not have such a technology. All American and Chinese jets developed since year 2000 use it.
That's not the reason, the reason is DSI trchonolgy is only good to improve stealth otherwise it doesn't help much, F 22 also doesn't have and even in f 35 they just incorporated it just before some time. DSI doesn't get you much advantage
 

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You have to give it to our Indian friends the tenacity with which they have carried out and continue to carry out this project。
 

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You have to give it to our Indian friends the tenacity with which they have carried out and continue to carry out this project。
I think we learned it from our chinese friends with the difference that we do not change the project name every time to remain it new .
 

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Tejas is good, but not as good as initially thought. Tejas Mk 2 still does not have DSI which JF-17 has. DSI is the first 21st century jet technology.
so DSI alone can make a a all metal fighter go invisible ?

or can DSI hide heat and electro magnatik & radar signature ?

or can DSI boost power of a fughters engine and increase its power to wieght ratio ?

well at best DSI can onli hide frontal heat signature from incoming heat seaking missiles and thats it what helps in real terms is power to wieght ratio , range , EWsuites , RADAR and agility and type of wepons on a pertikular fighter

PAK-FA doesn't have it because Russia does not have such a technology. All American and Chinese jets developed since year 2000 use it.
DSI is not the onli thing that reduces heat and radar signatures its more deu to overall shape , use of carbon composites in body & RAM coating

as for US fighters they also use better radar ,avioniks and wepons (where india has an uppar hand against PAF) and LCA has most ofindo- western hybrid Radar , wepons ,engine & EW suits + its the onli fighter which uses such a huge ammount or carbon composites in its overall bady & wieght (next onli to dreamliner in %)

now why is india still devloping LCA .......... the contemporary aircraft of LCA developed in other countries are JAS-39 by Sweden, FA-50 by South Korea and JF-17 by Pakistan / China. The engines installed in these aircraft (except that of JF-17) are GE-404 series engines.

LCA parameters, such as empty weight, all up weight (except that of JAS-39), thrust, speed (except that of JAS-39) are better than those of the other aircrafts.

Similarly, development / unit cost of LCA are less than those of JAS-39 and FA-50 but more than that of JF-17. However, LCA’s Ferry Range is less than those of other aircrafts."
 
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