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why would PAF want J-10s in it's present form, once the Block-52s were released.
Because J10B is supposed to have AESA vs an export puls doppler radar in the F16, you can also add the fact that it is more maneuverable, has IRST, the superior EW sensors, the better weapon pack, can be refuelling by PAF's tankers and directly linked with ZDK3 AWACS... :disagree:
 

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I drink that for breakfast Munshi.
because PAF cannot afford twin engine.. only countries with money and resources can field hundreds of twin engine fighters!
Those countries also make sure their citizens don't run into the fields holding their Sarees above their heads.
Well you don't have leisure to showcase twin engine aircrafts ,ab awaam ko kuch toh dikhana hai na.
Jaisey Indian Government tum ko Tejas k induction ki date detey hey.
Anyways, let's see if the Rich Indians can count more than two.
There's a saying that PAF was flying twin engine jets when half the Indian public went to sleep on an empty stomach. If you must then add to this list the IL-28 Beagle and B-57s.


 
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I drink that for breakfast Munshi.

Those countries also make sure their citizens don't run into the fields holding their Sarees above their heads.

Jaisey Indian Government tum ko Tejas k induction ki date detey hey.
Anyways, let's see if the Rich Indians can count more than two.
There's a saying that PAF was flying twin engine jets when half the Indian public went to sleep on an empty stomach. If you must then add to this list the IL-28 Beagle and B-57s.


Me too... releases jammed wind in my stomach every time... good for the health...
 

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I drink that for breakfast Munshi.

Those countries also make sure their citizens don't run into the fields holding their Sarees above their heads.

Jaisey Indian Government tum ko Tejas k induction ki date detey hey.
Anyways, let's see if the Rich Indians can count more than two.
There's a saying that PAF was flying twin engine jets when half the Indian public went to sleep on an empty stomach. If you must then add to this list the IL-28 Beagle and B-57s.


We are talking about medium and heavy weight twin engine 4th gen Jets not a 2nd or 3rd gen. Talking about a country where half of the people went to sleep on an empty stomach is light year ahead today than a country whose been branded a somewhat failed nation ,whose citizens afraid to call them Pakistani but Indian in foreign land and not to forget the most number of terrorist per sq km theory.
 

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Because J10B is supposed to have AESA vs an export puls doppler radar in the F16, you can also add the fact that it is more maneuverable, has IRST, the superior EW sensors, the better weapon pack, can be refuelling by PAF's tankers and directly linked with ZDK3 AWACS... :disagree:
My dear, Sometimes it's better to understand the debate rather than taking pot shots.
@Oscar will confirm to you that failing the release of F-16, J-10 was an outside option.
Now you are talking about J-10B, which appeared in last year or two, where as the Block-52s were released in 2005....who knows in it's current configuration, the PAF may look at it.

We are talking about medium and heavy weight twin engine 4th gen Jets not a 2nd or 3rd gen. Talking about a country where half of the people went to sleep on an empty stomach is light year ahead today than a country whose been branded a somewhat failed nation ,whose citizens afraid to call them Pakistani but Indian in foreign land and not to forget the most number of terrorist per sq km theory.
Not forgetting next stop is molestation for the Delhi bus service.
 

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Not forgetting next stop is molestation for the Delhi bus service.
So, thats the last thing any Pakistani will say when he runs out of conclusive facts, rapes happen everywhere why not question the thinking of men all over the world and not just India.
 

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My dear, Sometimes it's better to understand the debate rather than taking pot shots.
@Oscar will confirm to you that failing the release of F-16, J-10 was an outside option.
Now you are talking about J-10B, which appeared in last year or two, where as the Block-52s were released in 2005....who knows in it's current configuration, the PAF may look at it.



Not forgetting next stop is molestation for the Delhi bus service.
Rape must be a new word for your country then....

So, thats the last thing any Pakistani will say when he runs out of conclusive fact
Yes because in Pakistan you hardly find any rape,bomb blasts,robbery etc etc. This is a first world country.
 

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So, thats the last thing any Pakistani will say when he runs out of conclusive facts, rapes happen everywhere why not question the thinking of men all over the world and not just India.
Not forgetting how a Bharti dragged failed nation, terrorism and all other blaha blaha into the discussion. Any port in a storm.
 

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My dear, Sometimes it's better to understand the debate rather than taking pot shots.
Pot shots? :azn: Because I point to the lack of knowledge you showed about the capabilities of PAFs F16s and the J10 "B" which was the one that PAF considered.
 

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Not forgetting how a Bharti dragged failed nation, terrorism and all other blaha blaha into the discussion. Any port in a storm.
No body dragged anyone here but you who invited shit storm now face it.

Pot shots? :azn: Because I point to the lack of knowledge you showed about the capabilities of PAFs F16s and the J10 "B" which was the one that PAF considered.
Its always the money factor,WOT aid can be only be spend on US equipments.
 

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Its always the money factor,WOT aid can be only be spend on US equipments.
Nope, it also matters what US weapon and techs are approved by the US government. You can have all the money you want, but unless they clear AIM9X you don't have HOBS missile capability, without modern EW and passive sensors, you will be limited to an active puls doppler radar, unless they don't clear the necessary SEAD equipment, you will find it difficult to do such roles and without stand off weapons, you have to cross borders to do strikes. All this are limit in PAFs F16s by US export restrictions and in all these fields the J10 and JF17 simply offers more to PAF.
 
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