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Thai Cave Rescue Hero: Elon Musk Can "Stick His Submarine Where It Hurts"

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  1. TaiShang

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    Thai Cave Rescue Hero: Elon Musk Can "Stick His Submarine Where It Hurts"


    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 07/13/2018 - 19:05


    Vern Unsworth was one of the rescuers that helped pull off the miraculous rescue of 12 children and their soccer coach who were trapped in a cave in Thailand after it flooded. The rescue has been passed around international media for the last couple of days as a fantastic “feel good“ story that everybody could get behind.

    The only person that didn’t seem to get behind the rescue after it was completed was Elon Musk, whose proposed kid size submarine that he shipped to Thailand to help with the rescue was ultimately not used. We reported days ago that Musk instead lashed out at the commander of the rescue operation after he didn't use Musk's idea.

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    Today, stunning statements are being made by one of the individuals involved with the rescue who was interviewed by CNN International. CNN International’s Facebook page posted this interview in which Unsworth said that Elon Musk can stick his submarine - that had "absolutely no chance of working" "where it hurts".

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    He then went on to state what many of us had already been thinking – that the kid size submarine idea was simply just a public relations stunt.

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    In the full video interview, he also goes on to state that Elon didn’t have any idea as to what the caves would be like. He says he had "no conception of what the caves would be like". When the interviewer notes that Elon was there in the Cave area at the time of the rescue, Vern noted that he was then asked to leave very quickly.


    Full interview below:


    We reported about Musk lashing out at the rescue commander just days ago after he publicly questioned the authority and expertise of one of the key individuals responsible for successfully navigating the rescue of 12 boys and one soccer coach trapped in a cave in Thailand.

    As the rescue effort took place over the course of several days and finally, when on Tuesday it was reported that all 12 children and the coach were in fact safe, Musk's "escape pod" wasn’t deployed or used in any fashion.

    And instead of assuming that "all’s well that ends well" and being happy for the individuals who were rescued, Musk took it upon himself on Tuesday to actually question the authority of one of the joint commanders of the operation.

    The Guardian picked up the story on Tuesday and wrote:

    Elon Musk has questioned the expertise of Thai rescue officials who turned down his offer of a submarine, despite their having organised the successful rescue of all 12 boys and their football coach from a flooded cave.

    The entrepreneur had offered his help and posted footage of tests being carried out on the apparatus he proposed in recent days.

    But while Narongsak Osatanakorn, the head of the joint command centre co-ordinating the operation, acknowledged Musk’s offer he said that the mini submarine would not have been practical for the cave rescue.

    “Even though their equipment is technologically sophisticated, it doesn’t fit with our mission to go in the cave,” Osatanakorn told reporters.


    In response, Musk said Osatanakorn was “not the subject matter expert”, adding that he believed he had been “inaccurately described as rescue chief”, and should be more accurately referred to as the “former Thai provincial governor”.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...n-musk-can-stick-his-submarine-where-it-hurts
     
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    The person on the ground knows how difficult it is and what are the issues. I think it is highly inappropriate or even pretty arrogant to give suggestions in an imposing manner.
     
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    he only tested his fake sub for a few hours in smooth clear swimming pool and think he knows better than cave rescue experts. what a d1ck!
     
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    Not defending Musk, but this whole Thai Cave story reeks. Bunch of kids spelunking 4 km deep without proper equipment and took rescuers 9 days to find them. How do you survive without food for 9 days and what in the world made their coach take the kids 4 km deep into a treacherous cave in the first place. 4km deep, you need some serious gear and normally only professional explorers would go this deep. The official explanation is that nobody knew where the kids went and took 9 days to find the kids. I find that a little suspicious considering everybody have Cellphones and I am sure all these thai kids had them. Somebody must of told someone where they went. Even if they didn't, cell phone triangulation would of pointed their last known location. Also, all the kids survived on nothings for 9 days and finally emerge from the cave unscathed. My spider sense tell me the whole thing is a setup.
     
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    Agreed.

    Just like indian PDF members or Indians as a whole who claimed chinese laborers are slave, chinese "slums" are the same as those in India and somehow China beats India in the rape game :)
     
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    It was not an honest effort from the very beginning. It was, in fact, a despicably cheap brand stunt, which has smacked in his own face.

    The whole affair could be managed with much less fanfare and posturing and lecturing. The intention was not honest or humanitarian from the very beginning.
     
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    In Twitter Meltdown, Elon Musk Calls Thai Cave Diver A Pedophile, Then Deletes Tweet

    by Tyler Durden
    Sun, 07/15/2018 - 14:50


    Update: Musk has deleted the tweet accusing Unsworth of being a pedophile (as well as the tweet in which he doubled down that he would "bet ya a signed dollar it's true"). For those who miss it already, here is a snapshot:


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    The sequence of tweets deleted by Musk can be seen here, and, as usual, there is already a snarky narrative being formed in response:

    DEVELOPING STORY :::$TSLA Saboteur who hacked into Elon Musk's phone and tweeted controversial stuff has been found and detained.

    Its under internal investigation, we can disclose that name of the Saboteur rhymes with "Felon Muskmelon".

    Follow for more details soon...

    — Deepak CFO (@TezzlaCFO) July 15, 2018
    He didn’t just call the British rescuer in Thailand a pedophile. He called him a pedophile because he couldn’t imagine another reason for a white guy to be in Thailand. Which is a false assumption. Sometimes white guys visit Thailand to show off their useless submarines.

    — Kumail Nanjiani (@kumailn) July 15, 2018
    To the people in my mentions telling me to bring back Italian Elon Musk: No. No conceivable parody could be funnier than calling a rescue hero a pedophile because he made fun of your waterproof space trash boy casket

    — alex (@alexqarbuckle) July 15, 2018
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    What does a billionaire Silicon Valley liberal (or perhaps socialist, or maybe republican) do when his giant “Thai cave rescue” diversion from his auto company woes goes sideways and authorities tell him to back off?

    Why handle rejection poorly and question the rescue chief's credibility, of course.

    And what does said billionaire do when the Thai rescue chief tells him to "stick his submarine where it hurts" before being outed as a top donor to a GOP PAC?

    Engage in a weird Twitter exchange with the Sierra Club about climate change to show the world you're an environmentalist, then call the Thai rescue chief a pedophile.

    You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it.

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2018
    After Musk's boy-rescuing submarine was rejected by Thai authorities and his idea called a "PR stunt" by rescue chief Vern Unsworth, the Tesla CEO began melting down over Twitter - saying Unsworth had been "inaccurately described as rescue chief."

    Unsworth, an explorer and expert cave diver who lives in Thailand's Chiang Rai province, said that Musk was "asked to leave" the cave "very quickly" - and that the Tesla CEO had "no conception of what the caves would be like.

    Musk hit back - tweeting “Never saw this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus) at any point when we were in the caves ... Only people in sight were the Thai navy/army guys, who were great. Thai navy seals escorted us in — total opposite of wanting us to leave.”

    I challenge this dude to show final rescue video,” he continued. “Huge credit to pump & generator team. Unsung heroes here.”

    Water level was actually very low & still (not flowing) — you could literally have swum to Cave 5 with no gear, which is obv how the kids got in. If not true, then I challenge this dude to show final rescue video. Huge credit to pump & generator team. Unsung heroes here.

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2018
    It was then that Musk accused the man heralded worldwide as a hero - a pedo.

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    After Musk's shocking pedo claim, he doubled down - betting a Twitter user a "signed dollar it's true."

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    Maybe Thai officials had a bad feeling about his boy-rescuing submarine after Musk promised to send two tourists to the moon in 2018, only to delay the grandiose plan due to "technical challenges"? Maybe they saw pictures of Musk's makeshift tent city assembly line and didn't want to risk Elon rescuing a fraction of the boys he promised despite reassuring investors Thai officials it would be no problem? Perhaps they wanted to avoid a mid-cave battery fire?

    Either way, Musk then responded to a nine day old tweet from Texas Observer journalist Christopher Hooks by calling him a jackass...

    elon musk's thai cave submarine is... absurd. it doesn't make any goddamn sense pic.twitter.com/ntZo2Tghv1

    — chris hooks (@cd_hooks) July 9, 2018
    Stay tuned jackass …

    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 15, 2018
    Musk's latest gaffe comes on the heels of a Bloomberg interview in which he acknowledged the need to tone down his Twitter spats, saying "I have made the mistaken assumption - and I will attempt to be better at this - of thinking that because Somebody is on Twitter and is attacking me that it is open season," adding "This is my mistake. I will correct it."

    so much for this pic.twitter.com/goCAUkEYGX

    — Evan Niu, CFA (@TMFNewCow) July 15, 2018

    He literally just gave this interview. I will repeat that the Board and institutional investors are incurring real legal liabilities at this point. Not to mention personal career risk. Quite remarkable. $TSLA https://t.co/dDHtEsIYgq

    — Diogenes (@WallStCynic) July 15, 2018
    Meanwhile, Musk's pedo comment is not going over well...

    What's the "pedo guy" reference here? Seems like a pretty grave phrase to insert with no context or explanation: https://t.co/SOZrHXVxmx

    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 15, 2018
    If. If. If. You had any real evidence to support a claim like that you go to authorities. Not a twitter fight.

    — drew olanoff (@yoda) July 15, 2018
    Elon Musk: "Nothing can outdo my GOP flap."

    Elon Musk: "Hold my beer" pic.twitter.com/nxW1zGT9Op

    — "Elon Says" (@ElonBachman) July 15, 2018
    Who did this pic.twitter.com/lf13wl8HLA

    — Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) July 15, 2018

    If it's *not* true that the head of the Thai rescue effort is a "pedo," then Elon Musk is going to owe him a lot more than a dollar. That's just about as defamatory a comment as someone can make.

    — Max Kennerly (@MaxKennerly) July 15, 2018
    Hold the World Cup a sec, elon musk just called one of the Thai rescue divers a pedo on Twitter.

    — PyrionFlax (@PyrionFlax) July 15, 2018
    YOU CANNOT JUST RUN AROUND CALLING PEOPLE CHILD MOLESTERS BECAUSE YOU ARE RICH. https://t.co/zbU4bIVWud

    — Linette Lopez (@lopezlinette) July 15, 2018
    Elon Musk calling one of the hero Thailand divers a Pedophile...totally fucking normal $60 billion market cap CEO behavior. $TSLA

    Basically the diver criticized Elon and rather than leave it alone his narcissism couldn’t handle it and now this pic.twitter.com/F7XcuaXdB3

    — Ed ☯️ Humilitatem (@DowdEdward) July 15, 2018
    Meanwhile $TSLA employees are drinking Red Bull’s to stay awake in order to avoid stepping in raw sewage or getting hit by joy riding forklift drivers...guys you can’t make this up...Twitter’s market cap should triple... https://t.co/2dFCRE2kcS

    — Ed ☯️ Humilitatem (@DowdEdward) July 15, 2018

    It's true...

    ***

    Getting as ugly as Tesla's profit margin over the past 16 years.

    @TANAHH
     
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    All is going well I see.

    @Hamartia Antidote Your guy Elon making headlines for all the wrong reasons?
     
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    disgusting animal
     
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    He should have named the company Elon or Musk, instead of defiling the name of a European inventor through his fraud company and immoral public stunts.
     
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    a lot people in Canada is not going to buy the model 3 from Tesla. The new premier of Ontario just cancelled the incentives for anyone buying electric vehicles.
     
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    The article in OP is written by Tyler Durden. :lol:
     
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    Was the name of the character from a film called fight club.
     
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    Dude my cell phone doesn't work in the underground parking lot in a toronto high rise, you expect Kids cell phone would get signal deep in a cave.