• Sunday, August 9, 2020

Texas rep asks for Japan and Korea's help in building high speed rail in TX

Discussion in 'World Affairs' started by Korean, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. Korean

    Korean BANNED

    Messages:
    2,749
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,881 / -0
    Asia could help bring high-speed train to Houston - Houston Business Journal

    Seems that China's not invited in Texas High Speed Rail project, only Japanese and Korean companies.
     
  2. SinoChallenger

    SinoChallenger BANNED

    Messages:
    3,523
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 2,960 / -0
    LOL Korea doesn't even have high speed rail. USA is just trying to rip off some Asians for money -- good thing they choose their colonial dependents to victimize.
     
  3. ChineseTiger1986

    ChineseTiger1986 ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    22,833
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010
    Ratings:
    +12 / 40,458 / -1
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    Canada
    Both Japan and SK are the colony of USA, so they should allow their American daddy to milk them more.
     
  4. Raphael

    Raphael SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,310
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2012
    Ratings:
    +11 / 9,781 / -6
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    China
    Yes that right, if you keep posting news about Korea, people will think you're Korean ;)
     
  5. parkland

    parkland BANNED

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 143 / -0
    how hard it is for america to build its own train??? wtf why need japanese help when they can build iss, space shuttle, raptor etc etc, but not a train that goes at 250 km/hr.
     
  6. ephone

    ephone SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,609
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2010
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,754 / -7
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    United States
  7. Korean

    Korean BANNED

    Messages:
    2,749
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,881 / -0
    China is free to invest money in US HSR projects, but not seek contracts in return.

    The reason California and Texas state governments are negotiating with Japan and Korea is to secure their long-term construction loans in exchange for buying either Japanese or Korean bullet trains and associated signaling/maintenance equipment.

    The reason Texas's not negotiating with China is because they won't buy Chinese equipment due to legality/safety concerns.

    Selling the newly developed train model in the US won't recoup development cost; it must be exported so it doesn't make a financial sense. This is why California and Texas are looking to buy foreign bullet trains.

    The US railway technology is 40 years behind Europe, Japan, and Korea. And these US states are calling for 350 km/hr trains, not 250 km/hr ones.
     
  8. Korean

    Korean BANNED

    Messages:
    2,749
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,881 / -0
    The negotiation with Japan must not have been going though well due to the current financial difficulties at Japanese government.

    Unlike the California's "blended" HSR system which can run only Alstom and Hyundai Rotem bullet trains due to the crash test requirements, the Texas HSR system is a "closed" HSR system where the crash test doesn't apply and which favors lighter Japanese Shinkansens over Korea's heavier trains. If Texas is soliciting Korean government to bid on Texas HSR project, then this is definitely a sign of financial trouble on Japan's part, likely caused by the Fukushima disaster.

    Their governments won't fund construction.
     
  9. gambit

    gambit PROFESSIONAL

    Messages:
    25,186
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2009
    Ratings:
    +146 / 22,871 / -8
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United States
    Why not? Expertise is valuable no matter the national origin.
     
  10. rashtriya.rifles

    rashtriya.rifles BANNED

    Messages:
    1,202
    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 863 / -0
    Japs are much more reliable when it comes to following safety norms... also they(workers) won't spy around.
     
  11. ephone

    ephone SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,609
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2010
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,754 / -7
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    United States
    For such high tech constructions, workers won't spy for any valuable information. You need seasoned engineers and scientists to spy for valuation information.

    How much do normal workers understand such complex information though???

     
  12. Korean

    Korean BANNED

    Messages:
    2,749
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,881 / -0
    The reason US officials shun Chinese bidders in spite of China's aggressive 100% financing offer is because of safety and the probable lawsuits from Kawasaki who licensed the tech to the Chinese under the condition that the product would not be exported. Kawasaki made that clear with the US officials during their marketing effort of Shinkansen trains. Before the Wenzhou crash and the problems with unsafe viaduct construction surfaced in China, the US officials were enthusiastic about the Chinese bids.

    It has nothing to do with spying as the high speed rail is a civilian project open to Chinese bidders assuming all the safety and intellectual property requirements are met.

    Field workers would be American.
     
  13. Sonyuke_Songpaisan

    Sonyuke_Songpaisan FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,751
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2011
    Ratings:
    +1 / 1,039 / -0
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    Thailand
  14. GCTom

    GCTom FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    157
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 244 / -0
    Country:
    Canada
    Location:
    China
    If the Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee thinks South Korea or Japan can do a better job and give better value for their money for the job then by all mean and have one of the company from those country to build their HighSpeed railway.

    But from reading the article, it doesn't even say any Chinese company representatives was even interested in building the Railway? *shrug*
     
  15. Korean

    Korean BANNED

    Messages:
    2,749
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,881 / -0
    Europeans companies are not being asked for the job because the European governments aren't willing to finance US HSR projects, even if Alstom and Siemens are more than qualified for the job.

    Shelia Jackson never asked the Chinese to bid on the Texas HSR project, even though China is the only country with a 100% financing offer. The ones that Shelia asked to bid were offering $10~15 billion loans at most.

    So both California and Texas are left with Japanese and Korean bidders because only the Japanese and Korean bidders are qualified, and only their governments are willing to finance.