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Terrorist Altaf Hussain is charged with hate speech!!!

Discussion in 'Strategic & Foreign Affairs' started by Mangus Ortus Novem, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. Syed1.

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    Karachi already voted for a new party in the form of PTI.
     
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    Nope. Keep him away from Pakistan. He'll get B class if in Pakistan and run terrorists from his jail cell. Best he rots in UK.
     
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    Karachi didn’t vote for PTI, they voted against MQM and PSP votes were given to PTI.
    Establishment is not happy with PTI’s performance in Karachi and Sindh. So project “Humara Pakistan” will start in near future.
     
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    How do you know? You have a habit of making up stuff. Please bring proof and don't just make up stories.
     
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    Well best part is he is charged for his of speech of 22 Aug, 2016
     
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    Imran Khan himself is establishment and he is not happy with MQM PMLN and PPP and wants to put their leaders in jail
    Few days back he has said this in China
     
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    Finally that Fat A$$ toad fcuker get what he deserve, I hope that he drops the soap in his cell ..
     
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    Mashallah.
     
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    wait and see.....

    *I told people that we are going to IMF but people were in denial. Guess what? we went to IMF.

    *I told people that Rupee value might go up to 165 before it begins to go down and we are close to 165. We should see some improvements in economy in next 12 to 24 months.

    *I said almost 18 months ago that Pakistan and USA relationship will improve after July 2019 and 25 miles restriction on Pakistani Embbacy staff will be removed. Guess what it was removed in July 2019.
    People asked me why July 2019 and I told them wait and see...

    *I said situation is pretty tense at the border and someone said border is quite. I said my source is Army drivers who transport supplies and troops to the border.

    *Rumors about Pakistan is getting F-16 Block 70??? I said that I know people working at Lockheed Martin and I have not heard anything, nothings came out from Pakistani Embbacy in DC. I still believe that CSF will be released to Pakistan and Trump will allow purchase of used/surplus F-16s. It’s not written in stone, It’s my analysis based on the information from various sources.

    Coming back to politics, the only reason Mustafa Kamal was brought because establishment failed to create a bigger party under Musharraf leadership. Mustafa Kamal and PSP was the backup plan. Real plan was to create and merge Parties to give tough time to PPP which didn’t really work and at the last moment establishment decided to gave PTI seats from Karachi on the expense of Mustafa Kamal/PSP. This is what you call a political engineering.
     
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    Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) founder Altaf Hussain was on Thursday charged with a terrorism offence in a case related to his incendiary speech relayed from the United Kingdom to his followers in Pakistan on August 22, 2016.

    The MQM founder was taken into police custody and was produced before the Westminster Magistrates' Court.

    Hussain appeared before judge Emma Arbuthnot, and the charge against him was read out. He pleaded not guilty.

    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) asked for Hussain to be granted conditional bail. The conditions sought included a restriction on Hussain not to broadcast any message, either video or audio, via social media, radio, TV, or internet to people in the UK or overseas concerning this case or comment on the political situation in Pakistan.

    Kate Goold, the lawyer for Hussain, informed the judge that her client was "gravely unwell".

    The court is currently in recess as the lawyers for the prosecution and Hussain discuss the bail conditions further.

    The next hearing of the case will be held at the Central Criminal Court on November 1.

    Some MQM supporters had arrived at the court ahead of Hussain's appearance.

    Charged with 'encouraging terrorism'
    Hussain, who had earlier today appeared at a London police station after his bail expired, was charged by detectives from the Met Police's Counter Terrorism Command.

    "Altaf Hussain [...], of Abbey View, Mill Hill, NW7, was charged under section 1(2) of the Terrorism Act (TACT) 2006 with encouraging terrorism," the Met Police said in a statement on its website.

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    The charge as stated by the UK police is that Hussain "On 22 August 2016 published a speech to crowds gathered in Karachi, Pakistan which were likely to be understood by some or all of the members of the public to whom they were published as a direct or indirect encouragement to them to the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism and at the time he published them, intended them to be so encouraged, or was reckless as to whether they would be so encouraged."

    The Met Police said: "Hussain was previously arrested on 11 June on suspicion of intentionally encouraging or assisting offences contrary to Section 44 of the Serious Crime Act 2007. He was released on bail and subsequently charged as above."

    According to section 1(2) of the Terrorism Act 2006:

    A person commits an offence if—

    (a) he publishes a statement to which this section applies or causes another to publish such a statement; and

    (b) at the time he publishes it or causes it to be published, he—

    (i) intends members of the public to be directly or indirectly encouraged or otherwise induced by the statement to commit, prepare or instigate acts of terrorism or Convention offences; or

    (ii) is reckless as to whether members of the public will be directly or indirectly encouraged or otherwise induced by the statement to commit, prepare or instigate such acts or offences.

    Under section 1(7) of the same act, a person found guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—

    (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [15 years] or to a fine, or to both;

    (b) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both;

    (c) on summary conviction in Scotland or Northern Ireland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both.

    'Very serious offence'
    Commenting on the development, Toby Cadman, a London-based lawyer who advises the Government of Pakistan on MQM-related cases, said the Met Police's decision to charge Hussain was a "testament to the cooperation between the United Kingdom and Pakistan. This is what happens when two states work together in such a serious case."

    Speaking to reporters, he explained that the MQM founder was charged with "encouraging terrorism", which is a "very serious offence". He said Hussain will be presented before a magistrate, who will make a decision about either remanding him in custody or bailing him to the Central Criminal Court where he will stand trial.

    Cadman said Hussain was charged after the Crown Prosecution Service advised the Met Police that there is sufficient evidence to charge him.

    Arrest and appearances
    Earlier on Thursday, Hussain had reached the Metropolitan Police Southwark Police Station, accompanied by a handful of London-based supporters.

    This was his third appearance at the station in connection with the case.

    On September 12, the MQM chief was grilled for five hours at the same police station in connection with the case. He was released with an extension in his bail.

    The MQM founder was arrested by the Met Police on June 11 as part of the investigation into his alleged hate speeches. However, he was released on bail a day later by the British authorities without filing charges relating to the probe.

    Hussain had been arrested on suspicion of intentionally encouraging or assisting offences contrary to Section 44 (intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence) of the Serious Crime Act, 2007.

    The investigation that led to his arrest in June was led by the Met’s counterterrorism command, a statement released at the time said.

    The Met said the inquiry was "focused on a speech broadcast in August 2016 by an individual associated with the MQM movement in Pakistan as well as other speeches previously broadcast by the same person".

    Officers in June had searched two addresses linked to the MQM founder in north-west London. Police had also said that its officers had been liaising with authorities in Pakistan in relation to their ongoing inquiry.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1510088/a...olice-with-terrorism-offence-over-2016-speech
     
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    He will be protected as long as he is a useful asset to MI5 and RAW. This is a serious failure of successive Pakistani governments to chase this fat toad and bring him back to Pakistan to face justice.
     
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    "Khan effect" rolling forward. slowly but surely. PMIK's old buddies in the British establishment. Wink, wink, nod nod. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. This bas*tard caused chaos, murder and mayhem in Karachi for decades. A publicly acknowledged India RAW stooge who went to in India, New Delhi in a speach called "Pakistan a mistake" and sought forgiveness from India.
     
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    MI5 had blocked Scotland Yard's investigation.
     
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    Little recap of this patriot, leader, don of Karachi who unlike other 'traitors' ruled Pakistan's largest city, at times even formed part of federal government and control over federal ministries.

    Mr Hussain not only raised slogans against Pakistan but -

    • called the country “a cancer for entire world”.
    • “Pakistan is headache for the entire world.
    • Pakistan is the epicentre of terrorism for the entire world
    • Who says long live Pakistan...it’s down with Pakistan.”
    • suggestion he [MQM] recieved funding from Indian RAW
    • called Pakistan a horrible mistake to Indian audience in New Delhi.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1279393







    I am always amused by people on PDF going on about Mohsin Dawar, PTM, ANP etc. The fact is all these groups, people are NOT mainstream but are just fringe. Non hold government ministeries or federal departments. Meaning they are politicaly insignificant. Yet on PDF they are painted as curse of Pakistan. Fact is all combined have minimal influence on Pakistan.

    Now compare them to Altaf bhai. As head leader of MQM they ruled the largest city of Pakistan, Karachi for decades. Under Musharaf they held positions in federal government and ran Pakistan. This is fact. Yet Altaf was what Mohsin Dawar can only be in his wet dreams.

    However relative to his damage [real] to Pakistan [don't forget he enjoyed vast support in Karachi] and had third largest seats in national assembly forming governments showing they had millions voting for them I note people are very, very quite and at times even apologetic and making excuses. Oh they built good infra. Oh the PPP forced them la la la. Excuses for this traitor and his terrorist party.

    Anybody raising their voice will inevitably be accused of racism etc but it's fair game for others to be attacked.
     
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