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Terorists VS IFV with Recoilless Gun

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  1. UkroTurk

    UkroTurk SENIOR MEMBER

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    Nowadays terrorists cost cheaper than guided AT missiles(like Javelin-CIRIT-OMTAS)
    Sometimes AntiTerror Operations need big guns.
    With Tanks fighting in city very hard.
    I think wheeled IFV's more usefull than tanks.Tanks are not smart in cities.
    Wheeled IFV can't brake high velocity.
    Light recoilles gun can penetrate buildings with very cheap, low velocity, HEAT rounds.
    Wheeled IFV with BMP turret?
    What's your opinions? :)



    iF New Wheeled Turkish IFV's had a long burrel for cheap unguided HEAT(LAW or RPG7) rounds and CIRIT-UMTAS, it would be smart:)
    This are 2a28 GROM gun (73mm HEAT)
    The semi auto gun is relatively compact and weighs 115 kilograms.
    Cyclic rate of fire is between 8 and 10 rounds per minute. Faster than tank gun.
    The HEAT warhead can penetrate 280–350 millimetres (11–14 in) of steel armor.
    On the ranges, the PG-9 proved capable of hitting a 2-metre (6.6 ft) high target at a range of 765 metres (837 yd), while its maximum direct fire range is 1,300 metres (1,400 yd), reduced to 400 metres (440 yd) at night, due to the limitations of the night vision system. Under battlefield conditions, it has a maximum effective range of 500 metres (550 yd).[5]
    Maximum effective indirect range of the OG-15V HE-Frag round against formation targets is 4,400 metres (4,800 yd). Its effective direct fire range against small point targets is around 1,000 metres (1,100 yd).[1]

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    Close-up of a Czech BPzV-1's turret, 2 July 2005. Note the ATGM launcher for the 9M14M Malyutka-M
    A coaxial 7.62 mm PKT machine gun is mounted to the right of the main armament for which the BMP-1 carries 2,000 rounds in belts of 250. They are stowed in two boxes under the main gun.[2] The machine gun has a rate of fire of around 800 rounds a minute.
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    This is our lovely BMP-3 turret.
    Also it can fire cheap, low velocity rounds, AT missiles.
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    Another recoilles gun turrets.
    Canadian with 76mm gun.
    Turkish Guided missile CIRIT can be used with this burrel.

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    British CRVT 76mm gun

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    May be this is the second most popular low velocity gun and vehicle.
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    The M551A1 Sheridan or its gun had major weakness.. it was a low-pressure gun/missile launcher.. It did make a GOOD bunker buster.. But against tanks.. USELESS.. as the missile had some major faults i belive.. and today Sheridans are used by US ARMY "OPFOR" modified to resemble BMP-1..

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    UkroTurk SENIOR MEMBER

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    I am late. Somemebodies have already done.



    This is the best, smart vehicle.
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    There is no big explosion, no big recoill. Very little vehicle.
    BMP rounds very compact, smart in the city like a RPG7. LAW, Carl Gustov 84mm






     
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    Vehicle mounted recoill-less guns

    Ukranian BTR-80
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    TOW, Hellfirer,Javelinx are expensive.
    Ammunition shoul be powerfull and cheap. Because against a lot of terrorists, using guided missile it wouldnt be economical.
    nowadays in south east Turkey 30.000 terrorists,a lot of snipers hide in buildings.
    Low range, cumulative, smart bunker blasters would be usefull like a M551 sheridan artillery round.
    Vehicle should be smart and short like ARMA 6x6.
    My New Idea 6x6 Arma with XM551turret with 30 round, .50 cal autoguns 1000, .308 -2000 ammos

    please check the m551 152mm ammo.Short and fat:) low range,low recoill, big penetration like bunkerbuster.
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    Or BMP1 turret can be stick Cobra?:)
     
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  9. UkroTurk

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    In order to not trolling Turkis Land Vehicles topic, i moved here.
    If you dont mind, i would share my photos here.

    Here is the my embarrasing photoshop works.
    arma-m551.jpg KAPLAN SPG FV433.jpg TULPAR SPG TYPE 74.jpg syp-bmp.jpg OTOKAR 6X6 ARKA.jpg cobra-bmp11.jpg cobra-scorpion.jpg ARMA SPG TYPE 74.jpg
     
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    cobra 25mm short.jpg
    Otokar Cobra 25mm turret KOBRA 3KISA.jpg
    Otokar Cobra 30mm Mizrak Turret.

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    This is not mine:)
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    Otokar Cobra with HE 60-20 turret.
    60mm mortar+20mm autogun+7,62mm amfibi.jpg beyaz cobra1.jpg
     
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    Otokar Cobra 2 with mortar .
    81mm brechloading mortar turret with direct fire capacity.
     
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    Denel APC with Hotchkiss 60mm self propelled mortar.
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    (Denel) Mechem MC 90
    There is another offers with self propelled 60mm mortars.
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    Probably , the americans use IFVs extensively in afghanistan , against those whom they perceive as terrorist
     
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