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Why not look up how much ordnance we dropped on Iraq in Desert Storm and see if China can match? And still note that we drove to within 100 miles of Baghdad before we backed off.
only problem here is that Chinese military is not useless as the Iraqi military and USA is not what she was in 2003.
 

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Why not look up how much ordnance we dropped on Iraq in Desert Storm and see if China can match? And still note that we drove to within 100 miles of Baghdad before we backed off.
Lol.. your armed forces is obsolete. PLA used precision strike rocket. And guilded bombs. We used little ordinance to achieve maximum destruction.

Modern armed forces talk about how accurate your weapon is and nobody talk about how much ordinance u can delivered. Clearly u are outdated and not keep up with times. If US forces met PLA. It will be a massacre for US. :enjoy:
 
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And yet there were ground conflicts in both. If China do not invade Taiwan, China lose.
A ground invasion is not necessarily needed. America beat Japan without invading the Japanese home islands with a single ground trooper. Simple aerial bombardment sufficed. China can target Taiwan's power plants. Hmm. Seems only a few of them. If Taiwanese still want to watch TV, they must surrender or else no electricity. Let's see how long Taiwanese can last without TV.

 

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But Biden is a coward...Maybe Dutch can do it and challenge China militarily by itself..

Biden: There will be 'extreme competition' with China under my administration,but will not be drawn into direct conflict with one another
that just means that Biden is *smarter* than both of us.
 
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China prefers a peaceful resolution to Chinese civil war. Unlike Azerbaijan which attacked Artsakh by force, Georgia which attacked Abkhazia and South Osettia by force, Moldova attacked Transnistria by force.

Taiwan don't have ICBM that can hit Kashgar airbase which is located 4,500+ km from Taiwan. Unless Taiwan acquires ICBM and / or aerial refueling tankers, they cannot fight back against China. US refused to sell Taiwan ICBM and / or aerial refueling tankers.

taiwan will get all from america to counter china .
 

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As long as Taiwan stays as "Republic of China" , it's safe, the ball is in Taiwan's court. It's up to them to play.
I took a few weeks off for vacation and to take care of some family business. But before that time off, I attended a semiconductor conference. There were a few Taiwanese participants and the small talks among the conference members turned to the tension between China and Taiwan.

Without going into details, the bottom line is that China must invade Taiwan in order to fully defeat the Taiwanese. What I pointed out on this forum yrs ago is true: That if China cannot encircle the island, the Taiwanese can survive the war on the other side of the mountains.

Once China starts launching missiles and other forms of air strikes, global economy will be negatively affected as sea and air traffic thru the SCS will stop. No one will risk a few stray missiles from any combatant. As global economy slows, so will China's economy. The Taiwanese made provisions to broadcast the entire war in all methods. China will not be able to interfere. Global press will be on the island. Every civilian death and suffering will be known. China will be perceived as the aggressor even without setting a single troop on the island.

Assume that China invaded and won, the devastation on the island will be an economic millstone around China's neck for decades. China cannot count international trade or any form of economic relations. China must rebuild Taiwan while fighting off insurgency among the Taiwanese, any form from passive resistance to outright guerrilla warfare.
 

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only problem here is that Chinese military is not useless as the Iraqi military and USA is not what she was in 2003.
No, we got better. And the analogy is that China is the US while Taiwan is Iraq. Except this time, Taiwan is qualitatively better than Iraq while China is not comparable to US. That make China and Taiwan more problematic than US-Iraq. Am willing to guess you do not read much? :D
 

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I took a few weeks off for vacation and to take care of some family business. But before that time off, I attended a semiconductor conference. There were a few Taiwanese participants and the small talks among the conference members turned to the tension between China and Taiwan.

Without going into details, the bottom line is that China must invade Taiwan in order to fully defeat the Taiwanese. What I pointed out on this forum yrs ago is true: That if China cannot encircle the island, the Taiwanese can survive the war on the other side of the mountains.

Once China starts launching missiles and other forms of air strikes, global economy will be negatively affected as sea and air traffic thru the SCS will stop. No one will risk a few stray missiles from any combatant. As global economy slows, so will China's economy. The Taiwanese made provisions to broadcast the entire war in all methods. China will not be able to interfere. Global press will be on the island. Every civilian death and suffering will be known. China will be perceived as the aggressor even without setting a single troop on the island.

Assume that China invaded and won, the devastation on the island will be an economic millstone around China's neck for decades. China cannot count international trade or any form of economic relations. China must rebuild Taiwan while fighting off insurgency among the Taiwanese, any form from passive resistance to outright guerrilla warfare.
I personally honestly don't believe any wars will happen between mainland and China, people from both sides had become long economically interdependent on each other, especially for Taiwan, it's economy totally depends on the mainland, you guys can forget those harsh rhetorics made by the both sides, they are only for domestic consumption.
 

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I took a few weeks off for vacation and to take care of some family business. But before that time off, I attended a semiconductor conference. There were a few Taiwanese participants and the small talks among the conference members turned to the tension between China and Taiwan.

Without going into details, the bottom line is that China must invade Taiwan in order to fully defeat the Taiwanese. What I pointed out on this forum yrs ago is true: That if China cannot encircle the island, the Taiwanese can survive the war on the other side of the mountains.

Once China starts launching missiles and other forms of air strikes, global economy will be negatively affected as sea and air traffic thru the SCS will stop. No one will risk a few stray missiles from any combatant. As global economy slows, so will China's economy. The Taiwanese made provisions to broadcast the entire war in all methods. China will not be able to interfere. Global press will be on the island. Every civilian death and suffering will be known. China will be perceived as the aggressor even without setting a single troop on the island.

Assume that China invaded and won, the devastation on the island will be an economic millstone around China's neck for decades. China cannot count international trade or any form of economic relations. China must rebuild Taiwan while fighting off insurgency among the Taiwanese, any form from passive resistance to outright guerrilla warfare.
Look by that logic all the chinese have to do is launch a few nukes at taiwan and its bye bye taiwan

Will the world economy risk nuclear war with PRC for taiwan ? will the taiwan risk a nuclear holocaust ? NO!

as soon as taiwan realise that the west will not back her, she will not even fight back. Without a bullet being fired she will join the PRC. all this talk is just for.. domestic consumption.
 

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Every civilian death and suffering will be known.
America beat Japan without landing a single trooper on Japanese home islands. China will beat Taiwan without landing a single trooper on Taiwan. H-6 bombers will destroy Taiwan's power plants. No electricity. No TV. No TV. Taiwanese surrender.

 

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I personally honestly don't believe any wars will happen between mainland and China, people from both sides had become long economically interdependent on each other, especially for Taiwan, it's economy totally depends on the mainland, you guys can forget those harsh rhetorics made by the both sides, they are only for domestic consumption.
If China do not war on Taiwan, China can kiss the SCS goodbye -- PERMANENTLY. No amount of ancient maps China can print or artificial islands can help the claim. Global powers will increase their military presence in the SCS to secure its freedom from Chinese control.

On the other hand, China's conquest of Taiwan have the potential -- not guarantee -- of deterrence that China will resort to military solutions to secure control of the SCS, thereby compelling global powers to acquiesce to China's demands. That potential rests on the degree of destruction China can deliver on Taiwan.
 

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