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T-129 Atak in Malaysian Attack Helicopter tender

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  1. cabatli_53

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    Last Updated: 6:48pm, Apr 14, 2014KUALA LUMPUR (April 14): Will Malaysia sign a deal for the purchase of attack helicopters at this year’s Defence Services Asia?

    Following the Sulu militant incursion in February last year, the government has been pondering the acquisition of attack helicopters.

    During the incursion, our security forces relied heavily on Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) jets, which were not the ideal platform for counter-insurgency operations.

    However, obtaining a sufficient budget for armed helicopters has proven a hurdle to date and so; it will be interesting to see if the procurement is made this time.

    At present, there is no indication of numbers and several companies are highlighting their offerings at DSA 2014.

    Among the contenders is the Boeing AH-6i or their heavier option, the Apache AH-64E which is believed to be out of the government’s budget.

    The Bell AH-1Z and the UH-1Y Venom are also in the running, while the European Airbus EC665 Tiger which is used by the Australian Army is also being considered.

    The final contender is the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) T129 which is based on the Agusta Westland A129 Mangusta.

    In the meantime, the Malaysian Army Air Corps will continue to rely on their remaining Agusta Westland A109LOH.

    While the Defence Ministry is looking to arm the Agustas, three RMAF S-61 Nuri helicopters in East Malaysia are being fitted with .50 calibre door mounted machine guns.

    DSA 2014: Attack helicopters on RMAF's shopping list? | FZ : Malaysia News - General, Political, National, Business, World
     
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    From December 2011 to today, Atak flew 3200+ hours.
    During flights, Following munitions were fired.

    -42000+ (20mm gun)
    -4800+ (70mm rocket)
    -600 Flare

    Turkish defence industry is developing a real bloody combat copter which is able to give response to all type of threats so trials are proceeding difficult. The quantity of munitions fired only trial process of Atak weren't fired by any European countries' copters during their operational lifetime.


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  3. nomi007

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    Bell AH-1Z will win
     
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    What makes you think that?

    Bell AH-1Z

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    Bell UH-1 Venom

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    Until today, TAI trained 27 T129 Atak pilots along with 107 Atak maintenance crew which is going to serve Atak team on ground.


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    What is the unit cost of T 129 anyway ? is it revealed ? if its equal or more then ah-1z then no way, after all American stuff is proven, but if price is lesser, together with friendly relationship I think its possible.
     
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    Roketsan made Mizrak family of long range anti-tank missiles with top/direct attack modes are forming main basis of Atak's deep striking ability against enemy armours.

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    Combination of Mizrak with low cost but impressively effective Roketsan made Cirit missiles on Atak put it a different league among others. Cirit successfully hit a moving target travelling at 60 km/h while the platform AH-1W, it was fired from was moving at 220 km/h (120 knots).
     
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    due to cost and performance
    2nd zero commission
     
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    Aselsan made AVCI HMDU gives Atak pilots big situation awariness opportunity. No need to look around to find targets, instead AVCI reflects everything Aselsan made 300T FLIR detects...

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    Malaysia, Indonesia or Philipines should look in to getting license production or joining the program of T-129 or Z-10s...
     
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    @cabatli_53 do you have last photos of 9 units of T-129s ? You know, both in MSI and S&H there are photos of them from 2 different point of views... I know they published on 2 pages so it is hard to scan it but maybe a chance you have these photos...
     
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    good luck turkey... what is the unit price?
     
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    Malaysia has a small defense industry, so it strives for major foreign investment in the country, which is why the country has adopted technology transfer as a key strategy to invite foreign players in the country. Key technology transfer programs signed by the Malaysian government include a short-range missile technology program with China, a space program with Russia, and a MRCA program for which Boeing, Dassault, Saab, and Eurofighter are competing. The country also focuses on the development of partnerships with foreign companies; it encourages local companies to participate in global partnership and joint development programs in order to enhance the domestic defense industry.

    Malaysian Defense Industry Market 2017 | Military

    do you think that it is possible for them to get the technology for these missiles?
     
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    malaysia better off buying from the original maker, italy. it's proven and cheaper. no need to pay extra costs, because of the license fees that turkey has to pay to original airframer and components makers.
     
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    @qwerrty

    Check the spesifications, they're not the same thing, A-129 was pretty sh.tty, T-129 only shares the same hull design and not even its is same, T-129 is bigger, rest are totally different then A-129.

    There is no license pay, T-129 solely belongs to TAI, and as far as I know unit cost is not revealed.(at least I don't know)