• Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Syria: The US builds a military base near Kurdish-held Manbij

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  1. Kuwaiti Girl

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    the Kurd's will suffer as all regional states and people's will see them as an enemy
     
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    Nah. It doesn't work that way.
     
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    foreign powers can't replace your neighbours.

    the animosity towards Kurd's as more then a regional people but lackeys of foreign powers hostile to Muslims has grown many fold over the last decade and half especially

    Europe and the west is lurching to the right? their will be a response/back lash in the muslim world as Europe/west pushes on maybe even muslims returning from Europe due to hostility, regional muslim states and across the world will make changes and be forced to take a stand.

    Kurds will suffer the consequences of their current actions
     
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    You're not being pragmatic.

    All people look after their own interests above all else.

    There are many regional players that wish to expand their ties with the Kurds for investment/economic purposes, such as the Emiratis, Kuwaitis and, to a lesser extent, Saudis.

    The Israelis are also looking to boost their ties with the Kurds for geopolitical purposes.

    Powerless minorities in the region look at the political emergence of the Kurds as an example to emulate. They, too, will look to boost their relations with the Kurds.

    In this world, people look after their own interests. There's no such thing as Islamic solidarity. That's just a fairy tale. There never was and never will be Islamic solidarity. Even during the Islamic golden age, many Muslim dynasties/polities slaughtered one another for territory.

    The Kurds will make friends in the region, including with current adversaries. As a case in point, in Iraqi Kurdistan, there are Kurdish factions that are friendly to Ankara while there are others that are friendly to Tehran.

    The region will get used to the political emergence of the Kurds and find a way to accommodate them, just as it has largely accommodated the Israelis. Take a look at Israel today. It is openly/publicly expanding its ties with the Gulf states and other Arab countries. This idea would've been laughed at many decades ago.
     
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    They will, they might, they are going to

    apart from regional parties their is no kurdish state, no kurdish state is supported by any regional power, no regional state will give up sovereignty for Kurd's

    neither does anyone care what happens to them, they are seen as sell outside and a fifth column and tool of foreign powers.
     
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    As long as Kurds have US military bases on their soil they are nothing more than imperialist puppets which means that they will be unpopular.
     
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    Iraqi Kurdistan is already treated as a de facto independent state by many countries around the world, including a handful of countries in the Middle East. It has gone around Baghdad so many times in order to make deals and economic partnerships with other countries, including neighboring countries such as Turkey. The Jordanians give the Iraqi Kurds visa-free access to their country, but they don't do that with the Iraqi Arabs. Many regional embassies treat Iraqi Kurdistan as a separate country from Iraq.

    Dubai is investing heavily in Iraqi Kurdistan's infrastrucutre and neglecting places like Basra, even though Basra is also politically stable and desperate for foreign investment. Abu Dhabi is planning to sell fighter jets to Erbil even though Baghdad is against it. Abu Dhabi has also established strong ties with Ahmad Jarba of the Syrian Democratic Forces. The Lebanese have opened universities and high schools in Iraqi Kurdistan without Baghdad's consent as well.

    This is the real world. People look after their own interests.

    All countries in the region can be considered tools of the West. It doesn't change the realities on the ground one bit. There's a difference between emotional rhetoric and realism. Realism always wins in the end.
     
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    Desperate for friends much? lol
     
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    The UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Turkey, Bahrain and many other countries in the wider region have US military bases.

    Nothing has changed. Millions of people still travel to Dubai, Doha and other parts of the region in spite of their political orientations.
     
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    They do so because the Kurds are sunni muslim as opposed to iran supported Shia dominated Iraq

    but the Kurds are playing with fire and their games will burn them badly and deservedly
     
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    No, they do so because this is how the world works, not because the Kurds are Sunni Muslims.

    Are the Israelis Sunni Muslims as well?
     
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    The Kurds reminds me of the Afghans, under the impression that they have cards to play, placing trust in America and India when it is iran and Pakistan that can punish them the most

    its because they are sunni as opposed to Shia dominated Iraq

    or do you think they happen to like lackey Kurds.

    Israel also is hated across the muslim world by muslims everywhere but it is Shia iran that is the underlying catalyst for GCC and israel's recent bonhomie

    it dose not change underlying hatred most muslims hold for israelis
     
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    YPG have downgraded themselves from leftist revolutionaries to corrupted imperialist puppets. I dont see how they will manage to remain popular in the area
     
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