• Friday, May 26, 2017

Syria received a new batch of 10 upgraded Su-24m2

Discussion in 'Arab Defence Forum' started by MICA, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. MICA

    MICA FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,025
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2015
    Ratings:
    +5 / 1,807 / -0
    Country:
    Egypt
    Location:
    Egypt
    The Syrian Arab Armed Forces are receiving 10 examples of the Sukhoi Su-24M2 'Fencer-D' attack aircraft from Russia, augmenting an unknown number of existing 'Fencers'. Jon Lake reports.


    Su24Fencer.jpg

    Before the on-going deliveries began, Syria had received 22 Su-24s in total.
    Some 20 downgraded Su-24MK export versions were delivered from the Soviet Union in 1990, and these were augmented in the mid-1990s by single examples of the Su-24MK and the Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft, which were donated by Libya after Syria provided support for Libya’s own ‘Fencer’ fleet.
    The aircraft are operated by 819 squadron at T4 (Tyas) Airbase in Central Syria, though they have been detached to operate from other airfields, and have been seen in the south.
    A contract to upgrade all 21 bomber versions to the latest Russian air forces Su-24M2 standard was signed in 2009 and work at the 514th ARZ (aircraft repair plant) at Rzhev began in 2010. The contract also covered the training of Syrian pilots and maintenance personnel on the new variant and its systems.
    The upgrade will bring the aircraft up to the same standard as Russian ‘Fencers’ that have been modernised under the ‘Gefest’ and ‘Sukhoi’ programmes, which began in 1999 and 2000, and completed in 2009.
    The upgrade will significantly enhance the capabilities of the Syrian Su-24s, and promises to improve availability and maintainability, as well as combat effectiveness.
    Highlights of the upgrade include a new weapons control system, allowing the carriage of a greater range of weapons, including modern precision-guided missiles, a new SVP-24 navigation and weapons aiming system incorporating both GPS and global navigation satellite systems (GLONASS), and a new ILS-31 head-up display (HUD).
    Though the upgrade allows a significant improvement in bombing precision and accuracy, in practice, the Syrian Su-24M2s continue to rely most heavily on unguided freefall FAB, OFAB and RBK series bombs.
    It has been reported that most of the upgrades were completed in 2013 and that “more than half of the 21 upgraded Su-24s made it back to Syria”, though it has also been reported that up to 10 aircraft were not re-delivered, thanks to international embargos against Syria.
    Satellite photos showed between five and eight aircraft in Syrian camouflage parked on the flightline at Rzhev, swathed in tarpaulins, late last year.
    It remains unknown as to whether the ‘new’ deliveries are actually additional aircraft, or whether they are simply the balance of the aircraft upgraded under the 2009 contract.
    One Su-24M2 has already been lost in action, being shot down over Daret Izzah in the Aleppo province on November 28 2012. Despite this setback, the Su-24M2 has become the most important type in the Syrian inventory, with other aircraft being increasingly ‘war weary’ and lacking in relevant capabilities.
    On September 2 2013, Syrian Su-24s attempted to probe British air defences at Akrotiri on the island of Cyprus, but were turned back. They were also used to probe Turkish air defences the following month. This was hazardous work.
    After the shooting down of a Turkish jet by Syrian forces in 2012, Turkey changed its rules of engagement so that any “military elements” approaching from Syria would be considered as a threat and would be dealt with accordingly. Subsequently, Turkey shot down a Syrian Mi-17 helicopter in September 2013, and destroyed a MiG-23 fighter-bomber in March 2014. About one year later, on November 24 2015, a Russian Sukhoi Su-24M2 was shot down by a Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet near the Syria-Turkey border.
    With growing US pressure, Russia stepped down its attacks against the ‘moderate’ insurgent groups supported by the west, and the supply of more Su-24M2s to Syria could be seen as a deliberate effort to help the Assad regime to circumvent US and NATO attempts to confine its attacks to the so-called IS (Daesh) and Al-Nusra Front.
    The Syrian Air Force has certainly significantly stepped up its involvement in the fighting, undertaking up to 30 sorties a day.
    In August 2016, Syrian Su-24M2s, attempting to engage targets in north-eastern Syria where US special operations forces were operating alongside Kurdish forces, were intercepted by US F-22A Raptors and turned away. While the US supports the Kurds, who have been heavily involved in operations against so-called IS, the Syrian regime has been fighting against Syrian Kurdish groups.
    On two occasions, the Syrian ‘Fencers’ were simply turned away, but there must be a real chance that they will be engaged and shot down, should they continue to provoke the US Air Force.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  2. maximuswarrior

    maximuswarrior SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,938
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2016
    Ratings:
    +2 / 7,286 / -0
    Country:
    Netherlands
    Location:
    Netherlands
    I want to see Trump attack Syria again now. The redneck coward won't. He scored his brownie points whilst he could and that was that.

    Russia and Iran are beefing up Syria's defensive capabilities leaps and bounds. They understand Yankee tactics and are taking precautionary measures.
     
  3. Thəorətic Muslim

    Thəorətic Muslim SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,303
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Ratings:
    +12 / 3,215 / -0
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United States
    Syrian & Russians stay away from US/Coalition jets.
     
  4. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    19,576
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Ratings:
    +28 / 16,966 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    China
    Trump's little drama ends with Syria getting an upgraded 10 units and arrival of Russian destroyer back to Russia


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Modest Tech enhancements
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Old design but look like a interesting bird
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2017
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  5. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    19,576
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Ratings:
    +28 / 16,966 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    China
    Russia vetoed illegal agression on Syrian Peaceful forces

    rusianpower.png
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  6. masud

    masud FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,564
    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2015
    Ratings:
    +1 / 2,091 / -1
    Country:
    Bangladesh
    Location:
    Bangladesh
    Armed them with ANTI-SHIP with missile, and next time syria also need to blow some of us DDG.
     
  7. Oldman1

    Oldman1 SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    5,890
    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 2,908 / -1
    Country:
    United States
    Location:
    United States
    LOL! Russia won't even give them something like that.
     
  8. bdslph

    bdslph SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,076
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,924 / -0
    Country:
    Bangladesh
    Location:
    Philippines
    good for Syria now they can get terrorist better but SYria need more planes
     
  9. AZADPAKISTAN2009

    AZADPAKISTAN2009 ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    19,576
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2009
    Ratings:
    +28 / 16,966 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    China
    They should aim for 40-50 more fighter jets to safeguard their own air space
    Have right to upgrade their own airforce and national defences
     
  10. MICA

    MICA FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,025
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2015
    Ratings:
    +5 / 1,807 / -0
    Country:
    Egypt
    Location:
    Egypt
    Russia should deliver the mig29m2 to syria
     
  11. MICA

    MICA FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,025
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2015
    Ratings:
    +5 / 1,807 / -0
    Country:
    Egypt
    Location:
    Egypt
    Well russia said that no su-24 was delivered to syria
     
  12. azzo

    azzo FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,095
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,564 / -2
    Country:
    Saudi Arabia
    Location:
    United States
    Wrong forum, any post related to assad's syria (the minority syria) should be posted in the iranian forum.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3
  13. LeGenD

    LeGenD SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,567
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2006
    Ratings:
    +5 / 2,661 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Aap ko chawatiyiaan lagaaney kaa bahaut shouq hai.

    First, fanboys raved that US does not have the spine to attack Syrian regime under the shadow of Russian forces.

    US delivered.

    Now, you are saying that US won't attack Syrian regime again.

    On the contrary, US has warned that this isn't the end. Syrian regime needs to watch its back.

    My point is that their is difference between perception and reality. Underestimating US is a grave mistake for anybody.

    And stop championing a war criminal like Assad. Think about the lives he has ruined.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  14. Salman Zahidi

    Salman Zahidi FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,370
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Ratings:
    +0 / 1,621 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Will be good shooting practice for US forces.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  15. maximuswarrior

    maximuswarrior SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,938
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2016
    Ratings:
    +2 / 7,286 / -0
    Country:
    Netherlands
    Location:
    Netherlands
    LOL look who we got here. The American fanboy.

    Buddy, we don't care what your opinion is. You are obviously on the US side which is fine. That is as long as you don't try to shut others who have a different opinion.

    All I'm saying is to let Trump strike Syria again. We want see how bold and strong he is now. It is easy to attack when the opposition isn't ready or unprepared for a mass missile strike. This time will be different and even you know it.