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Exactly...If Pakistan could have made the Kashmir as a political struggle than the religious one, you could have got better return on your investment
I actually think Pakistan should have promised to safeguard Kashmir as an autonomous region, or even as an independent nation keeping the Kashmiri culture (not religion) vibrant. It would have set it apart from India and not give the impression that it just wanted the land as some Indians think that Pakistan wants.

Kashmir had a potential to be a neutral, strategic country like Nepal or Bhutan, religion should have been a secondary concern.

You're assuming the non Muslims of j and k haven't bought into the anti Muslim propaganda from Modi. I don't think your plan would have worked for that reason - they see Muslims as an enemy.
I agree with your sentiments, but Pakistan should have at least tried to win over the non-Muslims of Kashmir - promised them that Kashmir in a Pakistan would have been completely autonomous and distinct, and by virtue the more secular Muslims of that time would have been swayed but who ended up being conned by Nehru & Abdullah.
 

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No doubt Modi is digging his own grave. This is such an ill thought move. There is condemnation all round. Modi has managed to put Kashmir single-handedly back on the world stage.
There is no bottom to this barrel of Indian leaderships arrogance and general behavior of Indian population. They have lost all their humanity in this fervor of nationalism, where its them vs everyone who challenges their narrative or world view. India had become Nazi Germany without having the military or tactical prowess of Nazi's, how stupid one have to be to think that they wont be affected by an atomic war between the two countries? Guess pretty darn stupid. There is little to no hope for sanity anymore in India.

Its a great opportunity for Pakistan both on an internal and external stages, we must mobilize people of Pakistan and correct our course.


Shimla Agreement works for India because it, according to the Indian interpretations, excludes outside influence. Pakistan would have never signed the Shimla Agreement had there not been the need to bring up the POWs from India after the 1971 war. But it was not exactly a Versailles Treaty like humiliation for Pakistan. The language, while favors India, is still not completely against Pakistan's interpretation. I think India had screwed up the chance to impose a harsher language then. I have to admit that Ms. Gandhi was generous to Mr. Bhutto then or he outfoxed her.

But... we are now back to 1947/48: No agreement is valid anymore because of what India has just done. I don't think Pakistan should wish for the status-quo, which had benefited India. I have no doubt that the high-handed way of Indian dealing in last few days has damaged India's case. There are many even in India who don't favor the latest move. India is walking on thin ice.

India did something on 26 Feb. 2019. Pakistan responded on 27 Feb. 2019. The ball is in Pakistan's court to respond again...
A very valid argument, Indians had been using Shimla as an excuse to not discuss issue of Kashmir as the status quo suited India, but in his hubris and highest levels of arrogance they had brought issue of Kashmir back to main stream and rendering Shimla agreement unfeasible thus restoring it back to 48/49 situation. Great work Modi, youre a gift that keeps on giving and giving.
 

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I can't think of living even for a single second - and, that too with a family - under this overwhelmingly Na-Mahrem domination!!!!

What those Satanic traitors and their Jahil followers were thinking prior to '47????? They opted for the Ba'til instead of the Hak!?! Ahh only if they could read and understand few stanzas of the Turkish National Anthem they might have changed their minds!!!!

Ruhumun senden İlahî, şudur ancak emeli:
Değmesin mabedimin göğsüne namahrem eli.
Bu ezanlar, ki şehadetleri dinin temeli,
Ebedî, yurdumun üstünde benim inlemeli.

Oh glorious God, the sole wish of my pain-stricken heart is that,

No heathen's hand should ever touch the bosom of my sacred foreheads.
These adhans and their testimonies are the foundations of my religion,
And may their noble sound prevail thunderously across my eternal homeland.

Kim bu cennet vatanın uğruna olmaz ki feda?
Şüheda fışkıracak, toprağı sıksan şüheda.
Canı, cananı, bütün varımı alsın da Hüda,
Etmesin tek vatanımdan beni dünyada cüda.

Who would not sacrifice their life for this paradise of a country?
Martyrs would burst forth should one simply squeeze the soil! Martyrs!
May God take my life, my loved ones, and all possessions from me if He will,
But let Him not deprive me of my one true homeland in the world.
 
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Ndtv is not just pro congress, it is also anti India as it has shown on various occasions.
Kashmir witnessed brutal ethnic cleansing of the Pandits who settled in other states. They were migrants (yes, that ia the legal term used for them) in their own country despite having homes and jobs which they had to leave and flee.
https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story...anuary-19-jammu-and-kashmir-304487-2016-01-19

The abrogation offers these people a way back home.
The rest of India has free education and midday meal policy (under the right to education) for children which could not be implemented in Kashmir. Now like the rest of India, Kashmiri people will have the access to better education and health care facilities.

So, ask Kashmiris scattered all over the world what they feel and you will get your answer.
 

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Ndtv is not just pro congress, it is also anti India as it has shown on various occasions.
Kashmir witnessed brutal ethnic cleansing of the Pandits who settled in other states. They were migrants (yes, that ia the legal term used for them) in their own country despite having homes and jobs which they had to leave and flee.
https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story...anuary-19-jammu-and-kashmir-304487-2016-01-19

The abrogation offers these people a way back home.
The rest of India has free education and midday meal policy (under the right to education) for children which could not be implemented in Kashmir. Now like the rest of India, Kashmiri people will have the access to better education and health care facilities.

So, ask Kashmiris scattered all over the world what they feel and you will get your answer.
Go get your head checked using these better healthcare facilities.
 

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Why should I get my head checked? Why don’t you learn to accept truth? Kashmir is no longer a haven for useless terrorists and jihadis. They need to find some other place, I’m sure they’ll find some place nearby.
 

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Why should I get my head checked? Why don’t you learn to accept truth? Kashmir is no longer a haven for useless terrorists and jihadis. They need to find some other place, I’m sure they’ll find some place nearby.
Jammu &Kashmir - haven for Hindustani filth carrying out ethnic cleansing, mass rape, rigging of elections and torture since 1947. Why doesn't Hindustan go from J&K and conduct its daily filth elsewhere in India? Meanwhile the offer of a head examination still stands.
 

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Why should I get my head checked? Why don’t you learn to accept truth? Kashmir is no longer a haven for useless terrorists and jihadis. They need to find some other place, I’m sure they’ll find some place nearby.
My friend...Let us not argue for the sake of argument...There was no proud pro Indian Muslim in Kashmir since last couple of decades...This has nothinh to do with removal of 370...One of the major reason for removal of 370 is because, any way no one in valley love us, why the heck should we care about them???
 

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My friend...Let us not argue for the sake of argument...There was no proud pro Indian Muslim in Kashmir since last couple of decades...This has nothinh to do with removal of 370...One of the major reason for removal of 370 is because, any way no one in valley love us, why the heck should we care about them???
You are somewhat right. The muslims left in the valley are separatists, supporters of separatists and a small number of people trying to survive. All the terrorists had to do was chase away the opposing voices.
But do you believe that they are the only Kashmiris and only their opinion matters? What about the Kashmiri migrants who went to universities with us? Don’t their opinions matter? Why should they forfeit the right to their home because they left? Who’ll stay if their daughters are threatened? Some Kashmiris still have families there, but they are worried since there aren’t any proper hospitals, schools, colleges, universities. Kashmiris are caught between lack of basic facilities on one side and terrorism on the other. Art 370 actually halted their progress.
So I think the abrogation gives all the true Kashmiris a chance to go back home.
 

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You are somewhat right. The muslims left in the valley are separatists, supporters of separatists and a small number of people trying to survive. All the terrorists had to do was chase away the opposing voices.
But do you believe that they are the only Kashmiris and only their opinion matters? What about the Kashmiri migrants who went to universities with us? Don’t their opinions matter? Why should they forfeit the right to their home because they left? Who’ll stay if their daughters are threatened? Some Kashmiris still have families there, but they are worried since there aren’t any proper hospitals, schools, colleges, universities. Kashmiris are caught between lack of basic facilities on one side and terrorism on the other. Art 370 actually halted their progress.
So I think the abrogation gives all the true Kashmiris a chance to go back home.
what we beleive, is not something difficult to explain and make every one understand here...JK is not about valley only
 

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Art 370 actually halted their progress.
So I think the abrogation gives all the true Kashmiris a chance to go back home.
Funny, I thought Indian pogroms and occupation since 1947 is the thing that halted kashmiri progress. But no no, I must be misinformed. You and your uni buddies have to be right.
 

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