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South China Sea row: British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth ignores Chinese threats
BRITISH aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth has ignored warnings from the Chinese and entered the South China Sea, leading to fears of reprisals from Beijing.

One of the UK's advanced flagship aircraft carriers, the HMS Queen Elizabeth, has sailed into the contested maritime region heedless of the vocal threats from China. Referring to the passage of the British ships Chinese defence spokesman Tan Kefei spoke to the South China Morning Post and said: “The Chinese side believes that the South China Sea should not become a sea of great power rivalry dominated by weapons and warships. The real source of militarisation in the South China Sea comes from countries outside this region sending their warships thousands of kilometres from home to flex muscles.


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"It will also take measures to promote peace and stability in the South China Sea.”
The ship is leading a carrier strike group and has entered the South China Sea region which has been largely claimed by China, within their 'nine-dash line'.
The British carrier recently left Singapore along with escort vessels.
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China has warned British ships not enter the South China Sea

China has warned British ships not enter the South China Sea (Image: GETTY)
Beijing's 'nine-dash line' claim encompasses almost all of the South China Sea.
This territory measures 1.3 million-square-miles and Bejing has denounced the presence of foreign warships there, stating they are the cause of tensions in the region.
China's 'nine-dash line' extends southward for over 2,000 kilometres from the Chinese mainland.
However, in a historic decision in 2016, an international tribunal met at The Hague and ruled against China’s claim to the maritime territory.

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Frequently, the US will conduct freedom of navigation operations through the South China Sea to challenge what Washington calls “attempts by coastal states to unlawfully restrict access to the seas”.
In 1935 the Chinese government produced a map of this contested maritime region called; "Map of Chinese Islands in the South China Sea".
The map had eleven dashes on it marking Beijing's claim.
However, in 1949 the Chinese government dropped their claim of the Gulf of Tonkin off Vietnam, taking the dashes down to nine.
China is building artificial fortified islands within the South China Sea territory.
The state that these constructions are in accordance with article 56 of the United Nations Conventions and Laws of the Sea.
Beijing states that only they have the exclusive right to exploit the resources and build artificial islands within the South China Sea.

China will give an another threat. They will keep giving threats till aircraft carrier on its own decides to go back after completion of its mission.
 

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No Chinese claims South China Sea is Chinese territory. Chinese official value of China area is 9 million square kilometers, not 13 million square kilometers.
i suppose we can start floating the ships around the South China Sea then... it'll be costly, we'll end up paying the Chinese government taxes for transit rights, but you got a valid point.

i'll try to bring it up on my peacefan @usmessageboard.com account sometime soon, but they got a lot on their minds already, ideas i introduced there this week, which go against decades worth of sturdy American indoctrination of their own populations...

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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sout...-ignores-chinese-threats.718364/post-13250676
i am thoroughly against regional and large scale wars.
that just wastes lives and money. don't get me wrong, i'm not against the arms industries of Earth at all..
i think they're doing a fine job keeping us strong.
i just hate to see mass casualty events.

but i can't always go against (large-scale) government + mass-media-industry PR campaigns happening in multiple major countries at the same time, and doing *that* also goes too far against the principles of free speech.
that's where manipulation starts, and you end up being a meglanomaniac. which i'm certainly *not*. :)
 
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(about an hour-and-a-half or so later) :

thread stopped dead in it's tracks via argumentation delivered by the Americans : https://www.usmessageboard.com/thre...l-claim-to-those-waters.910492/post-27580215⁠

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And what of the other countries bordering SCS?

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China is committing genocide against chinese muslims and forces millions of Chinese into slave labor......they do not deserve or have any claim to anything.....they are the Germans of the 1930s all over again, but with better technology and more resources....but with the same racism and genocidal beliefs...
i suppose that's a valid viewpoint too, although i believe they're just fighting muslim terrorism and seperatism, like they did with Tibet.
things will quiet down eventually, like they did in Tibet.

but i'll rest my case here then.

prolonged wars of words are never a very wise occupation ;)
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Rene 'Gavan' Veerman aka peacefan @usmessageboard.com and peacegen @defence.pk, to all : if *you* and your family and friends want *you* to post effectively to mass media companies and government political parties, just look up the email addresses on their websites, and email them from a custom gmail / hotmail / whatever email account! :)
 

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China economically and Russia militarily together are too big for the US and its allies now. The writing is on the wall. Pakistan has chosen it's side wisely. Same cannot be said for India.
 

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Not really. China will pump more and more carriers, cruisers, destroyers, frigates and corvettes into the seas around her. That's real impact not a false reliving of the Brit Empire's "glory days" like the QE trip.

The Chinese ships will be there permanently. It will mean Chinese jurisdiction. At the end of the day, FONOPS means little unless there is persistence. Parading in the English Channel means nothing. Holding the seas around China is everything.
 

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Not really. China will pump more and more carriers, cruisers, destroyers, frigates and corvettes into the seas around her. That's real impact not a false reliving of the Brit Empire's "glory days" like the QE trip.

The Chinese ships will be there permanently. It will mean Chinese jurisdiction. At the end of the day, FONOPS means little unless there is persistence. Parading in the English Channel means nothing. Holding the seas around China is everything.
yes Qing dynasties also built a 1,000 ship navy

tiny Royal Navy wiped them out

its quality not quantity
 

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You chose the Americans too wisely too :P. Chinese are not going to take that long to dump you.
please don't troll the Pakistanis on their own forum. :p
that's in your own interests, by the way.
and the interests of India.

yes Qing dynasties also built a 1,000 ship navy

tiny Royal Navy wiped them out

its quality not quantity
shhh! we don't want the arrogant Chinese to grow too smart or strong! ;)
they need to collectively grow character qualities like patience, wisdom, and polite-assertive diplomacy *first* :D
the main Dutch and Russian qualities ;)
 
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time for some levity, folks...

the war over the south china sea, as experienced by all government leaders and forum account holders alike....
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