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South Asia's nuclear one-upmanship ramps up with Pakistan missile test

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by Saifullah Sani, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. Saifullah Sani

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    The Pakistani army has successfully test-fired a nuclear-capable cruise missile from a submarine for the first time, less than a month after India launched its Agni-V missile.

    Inter-Services Public Relations, the media wing of Pakistan's military, says its missile, the Babur-3, will help bolster the country's defenses as its neighbors develop their own technology.

    ISPR called the test "a manifestation of the strategy of measured response to nuclear strategies and postures being adopted in Pakistan's neighborhood," which could be read as a veiled reference to India.

    Retired Pakistani army officer, Lt. General Talat Masood told CNN this attempt by Pakistan to develop a genuine second-strike capability, is "only the beginning".

    But maintaining second-strike capability -- the ability to hit an adversary back after already being attack -- with a submarine fleet is costly, both financially and diplomatically, Masood said.

    Pakistan currently has eight submarines in its fleet, according to Jane's Defense Weekly. To realistically deter an enemy, three of them would have to be equipped with working nuclear-capable missiles, Masood said.

    A 'nuclear daisy chain'

    Pakistan's launch comes after India tested its intercontinental Agni-V ballistic missile in December.

    Analysts say Pakistan has been working on its second-strike capability for some time, so the timing may not have been affected by India's launch.

    Pakistan launches cruise missile from submarine - CNN.com.png

    One expert, however, says India likely won't lose sleep over this test.
    "It is a threat, but something the Indian navy is confident it can deal with," Bharat Karnad, a research professor at India's Centre for Policy Research told CNN.

    From a deterrence standpoint, Karnad says it makes sense for Pakistan to publicly trumpet its missile launch in order to dissuade adversaries from moving against Islambad.

    But India isn't overly worried about deterring Pakistan -- they've got their eye on China, and China in turn is focused on United States, according to Karnad.

    "It's a nuclear daisy chain to which there is really no solution," Karnad says. "It is the largest strategic problem for the region."

    CNN has reached out to Indian authorities for comment but is yet to receive a response.

    Missile development

    Islamabad is believed to have developed the Babur-3 after reverse-engineering US missiles discovered nearly intact in Pakistan in the 1990s.

    The missile is variant of a ground-launched cruise missile and has a range of 450km, ISPR said, adding that it incorporates "state of the art technologies including underwater controlled propulsion and advanced guidance and navigation features."

    "The missile features terrain hugging and sea skimming flight capabilities to evade hostile radars and air defenses, in addition to certain stealth technologies," according to the ISPR announcement.

    While Karnad predicted a muted response from India, Jane's says the launch is likely to increase tensions between Pakistan and India due to the recent instability in Kashmir.
    A series of deadly clashes reignited concerns about stability in the contested region late last year.

    Pakistan launches cruise missile from submarine - CNN.com (1).png

    Pakistan accused India of "naked aggression" along the Line of Control -- which divides the two sides of the disputed region, while India charged Pakistan with violating a ceasefire and supporting terrorists.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/asia/pakistan-submarine-missile/
     
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    but their Media is claiming that World is Laughing at Pakistan , and we become Jokers once Again .. I feel Sorry for Indians ..

     
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    Internet exploded with Indians coming up with all sorts of absurd arguments to deny the test, and this article says India won't lose sleep on Babur-3 SLCM? They already have.
     
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    Wow, that I feel embarrassed for the people spearing in that. How on earth can these "analysts" make up facts and act so smug about them.

    Apparently Pakistan didn't do the test, but later on they say that Pakistan did the test because China was providing all the hardware?

    I mean come on guys, are you so incompetent that you cant even come up with propaganda that doesn't contradict itself.
     
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    well this is a nation that take words of a self Proclaimed Satellite Image expert as Gospel Truth ... rest you can figure it out ..
     
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    Goes to show how confused and pathetic Indians are. At first, refuting the test and now not losing any sleep. They cannot make up their mind LOL We have them in a twist. That's for certain.
     
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    Indian Navy said such a test didn't take place. That is official line of Indian Navy. What appeared on the CNN is not the official line.
     
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    NOTAM was issued a few days before the new year. The test would have been conducting then. Released later on.
     
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    As opposed to India, Pakistan likes to keep things secret due to a multitude of reasons. If Pakistan has released the news of one test I can assure you quite a few would have already taken place and this test might be one the final tests before the formal induction of this particular version of Babur-3 ver or blk 1 SLCM into the service. While the development of later versions / blocks will continue with extended range and capabilities and subsequent testing will continue.
     
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    This has probably been tested in the past. By the accuracy you can tell it's gone through many trials.
    Pakistan he done this before back in May of 2009. They fired the Babur and did not release the information that the launch took place until three days had passed.
     
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  11. Salman Zahidi

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    Your stupid Navy also claimed to destroy a boat full of terrorists just last year and later it turned out to be innocent fishermen. That's how credible your Navy is.
     
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    The procedure for releasing the info of missile tests is cumbersome, as we all know the NOTAM was issued somewhere in dec 2016 but the test info was released a few days ago which indicates the time taken in making the decision about release of the news.
     
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    SECURITE

    260610 UTC DEC 2016

    NAVAREA IX (.) 437/16 (.) ARABIAN SEA (.) PAKISTAN (.)
    MAKRAN COAST (.) CHARTS PAK 22, 23, 24, 33, 57 (INT 751),
    58 (INT 7019), BA 38, 707 AND 4705 (.)

    2. MISSILE FIRING WILL BE CARRIED OUT BETWEEN 0430 TO
    0830 UTC ON 27 AND 28 Dec 2016 IN AREA BOUNDED BY FOLLOWING
    COORDINATES:

    (A) 25-20N 064-50E
    (B) 25-30N 066-32E
    (C) 24-50N 066-40E
    (D) 25-05N 064-50E

    SAFETY HEIGHT: 1000 METRES

    3. SHIPS AND CRAFT ARE TO KEEP WELL CLEAR AND NOT TO ENTER
    ASSIGNED DANGER AREA ON ABOVE SPECIFIED DATES AND TIME (.)

    4. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE ON 280930 UTC DEC 2016.

    https://www.paknavy.gov.pk/securite/20161226SEC 437.txt
     
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    Brilliant demonstration by Pakistan.

    We now need:
    -longer range SLCM
    -modern SAM / missile shield
    -4++/5th gen fighter
    -stealth bombers
    -nuclear subs

    Congrats to all the scientists and engineers that develop solutions to keep us safe. I salute you!
     
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    Imagine this: ALL indian coastal cities--which form the backbone of indian industry, trade, economy, and major urban populations---will now be under our cruise missiles range.

    Pakistan's submarines will be able to launch strikes on indian major coastal cities safely submerged in deep oceans hundreds of kilometers away from indian waters :)

    Mashallah, what a capability we have achieved.

    Hopefully Pakistan works on increasing the range of Babur III and incorporate bunker buster warheads with it. With 11 submarines in our fleet by 2030, all loaded with babur cruise missiles with hopefully 1000km range, Pakistan military would become a global strike force capable of launching precise strikes anywhere in the world against various types of targets.

    :cheers:
     
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