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Pakistan match-fixing claims: South African players concerned about upcoming series

South Africa's cricketers have such deep reservations about playing against Pakistan in their scheduled series in Abu Dhabi and Dubai next month that several senior players are considering whether to make themselves unavailable for selection.



The Proteas are due to play five ODIs and three test matches as well as a brace of T20s, the second of which was agreed to by Cricket South Africa to help with flood relief in the stricken nation.
"To say we are reluctant is an understatement," one senior player told Telegraph Sport. "Nobody knows what the hell is going in Pakistani cricket and we feel that playing such a high profile series right now - especially in the middle east - is asking for trouble.

"Maybe it's time for the ICC to step in, or for Pakistan to withdraw from the international game for a year until the mess can be cleaned up and people can start to believe in the game and develop a bit of trust," the player said.
The SA Cricketers Association chief executive, Tony Irish, admitted that "many players" had expressed their concerns to him about the tour but was, for the moment, stoically maintaining a diplomatic stance.
"The fact that there are now further incidents under investigation is not good news. This all needs to be dealt with urgently in order to ensure that a heavy cloud of suspicion and doubt doesn't hang over our series against Pakistan," Irish said.
Asked whether he was aware that some senior players were extremely reluctant to participate in the tour, Irish said: "Let's hope it doesn't come to that."
Pakistan's 'withdrawal' from international cricket may, of course, happen involuntarily anyway. With the ECB having ruled itself out of acting as a 'home' venue in the immediate future and the UAE financially unsustainable, the PCB is rapidly running out of options - not to mention willing opponents.
Last week Zimbabwe was even considering offering Harare and Bulawayo as venues for Pakistan to stage 'home' games with ZC cricket committee chairman and former national captain Alistair Campbell suggesting that staging international cricket in the country before the country's scheduled return to test cricket in May next year was "a good idea."
Zimbabwe is still scheduled to tour Pakistan for a five-match series of one-dayers to raise money for flood relief in January.
After Saturday's allegations concerning the third one-dayer at The Oval, however, he was forced to admit that even Zimbabwe Cricket, as desperate as it is to shed its pariah status and reacquaint itself with all of the major cricket playing nations, was being forced to "think again" about its offer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cr...n-players-concerned-about-upcoming-series.htm

Proteas not keen to play Pakistan

'To say we're reluctant is an understatement'
Sep 20, 2010 12:34 AM |

Along with the weekend's new allegations of corruption against Pakistan's cricketers, it also emerged that some senior South African players are considering a boycott against them next month.


'Playing such a high-profile series is asking for trouble'


A report in the London Daily Telegraph on Saturday, written by Cape Town-based cricket journalist Neil Manthorp, said the South African players were considering whether to make themselves available for selection in next month's series against Pakistan.

Manthorp, who helped write South African captain Graeme Smith's biography, has close ties with senior players in the Proteas squad. He did not name anyone in his report, but quoted a senior player as saying: "To say we are reluctant [to play Pakistan] is an understatement."

South Africa are due to meet Pakistan in three Tests as well as seven limited-overs internationals in Abu Dhabi and Dubai over the next two months.

Pakistan have been forced to play at neutral venues after their country was prevented from hosting visiting teams amid violence there.

The anonymous player told Manthorp: "Nobody knows what is going in Pakistani cricket and we feel that playing such a high-profile series right now - especially in the Middle East - is asking for trouble.

"Maybe it's time for the International Cricket Council to step in, or for Pakistan to withdraw from the international game . until the mess can be cleaned up and people can start to believe in the game and develop a bit of trust."

SA Cricketers Association CEO Tony Irish told the Telegraph that "many players" had expressed their concerns to him about the tour.

"The fact that there are now further incidents under investigation is not good news. This all needs to be dealt with urgently in order to ensure that a heavy cloud of suspicion and doubt doesn't hang over our series against Pakistan," he said.

Irish also said that he hoped a withdrawal from the tour by players could be prevented.

The new allegations against the Pakistan team were made after a suspicious scoring pattern in the third one-day international against India at the Oval in London.

The ICC said it had started an investigation into a "certain scoring pattern" that emerged during Pakistan's victory in the match on Friday.

It followed a report by The Sun newspaper, which claimed to have been made aware of details of Pakistan's innings before the match had got under way.

The paper tipped off cricket authorities, who then watched as the scoring patterns in two suspect overs emerged as predicted, The Sun report said. The overall result of the match was not believed to be fixed, the report added.

ICC CEO Haroon Lorgat said the new allegations - which follow the suspension of three Pakistan players for alleged involvement in "spot-fixing" - warranted further investigation.

The Pakistan Cricket Board reacted angrily to the allegations, dismissing The Sun report as "sensationalism".

The investigation follows allegations of deliberate no-balls bowled in the Lord's test match. Pakistan skipper Salman Butt along with bowlers Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif were questioned by police before being sent home. - Sapa-AFP and sports staff
 

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PAKISTAN CRICKET CHIEF ACCUSES ENGLAND OF MATCH-FIXING

ENGLAND’S cricketers were last night sensationally accused of taking bungs to throw the result of Friday’s one-day international against Pakistan.

The match has been under investigation by the ICC amid more claims that the tourists were involved in spot-fixing.

But Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt yesterday tried to deflect the flak on his team by amazingly pointing the finger at England.

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He claimed their batting collapse, which helped Pakistan triumph at The Oval, was a clear sign some members of Andrew Strauss’ side were up to no good.

Butt said: “There is loud and clear talk in the bookies’ circle that some English players were paid enormous amounts of money to lose the match. No wonder there was total collapse of the English side.”

There is no evidence at all to back Butt’s claims – and over the weekend it was made clear by the England and Wales Cricket Board that any investigation was not centred on the England group.
Butt, regarded as something of a maverick, also promised to name names in the coming days as relations between the two sides reached breaking point.

He added: “We will talk to the English Cricket Board as well on the efforts to marginalise Pakistani cricket.” Last week’s match is just the latest scandal to hit cricket during this summer’s tour and the sport is now facing a huge crisis.

Mohammad Aamer, Mohammad Asif and captain Salman Butt have already been suspended from the series amid claims they plotted to bowl no-balls in return for money.

But Pakistan coach Waqar Younis, whose side play the fourth one-dayer at Lord’s today, maintained his players did no wrong, especially at The Oval.

He said: “My team are playing the game in the right manner. To read that story was heartbreaking.

“There was nothing in the game planned beforehand.

“We have won the game. If you start looking at single deliveries and individual overs you have to look at England and Australia as well. It’s ludicrous.”

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They should be asked if Pakistan wants to play them. After what Pakistan did to them in T20. :cheesy:


Afridi....Kallis anyone? :P
 

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It will be much better, if Pakistan voluntarily withdraws from the tour, atleast PCB will be left with some selfrespect.

Events might get very embarrassing if SA cancels the series.
 

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oh god! another ploy of BCCI and ICC to bankrupt PCB....:D

and moreover how dare the pakistani's spot fix the 3rd ODI ?, when they are constantly being spied upon after the no-ball fiasco?? they themselves know that whatever wud follow next they would be constantly spied....

i really dont belive this time pakistanis are or were involved in 3rd odi spot fixing...
 

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Look who's talking. Remember Hansie, Gibbs. SA players are also part of this scandal. The way they play some matches, it seems lot of SA cricketers are involved in fixing row. All current Indian players are clean not only because they are patriotic, but they are paid huge amount by India Inc and BCCI.
 

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England's troubled series against Pakistan has further descended into farce after the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, Ijaz Butt, accused English players of accepting money to lose Friday's one-day international.

England lost the match by 23 runs, and Butt has claimed there has been talk among bookmakers that there was a conspiracy to defraud the Pakistan team.
Ijaz Butt accuses England of accepting money to lose Pakistan match | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Defraud them how? After all Pakistan won, how would Pakistan have lost money unless Butt had a bet on them loosing?

Seriously time for cricket to take a deep breath a break and sort things out I would hate this still be dragging on by the time Pakistan plays NZ.
 

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Its just an attempt to keep Pakistan out of world cricket , so no teams will be forced to travel to Pakistan -

And also the revenue to Pakistan for World cup can be kept by ICC becasue Pakistan will be banned for any participation for 1 year.

South African players should be simple fined

Pakistan also has 100 newspapers and they say alot of stuff , about other teams does not means that ICC shoudl launch a investigation on every tabloid in Pakistan.
 

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What are the Proteas afraid of? If they arent involved in match-fixing they should be open to play.
 

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Series against Pakistan to be held as per schedule: South Africa

JOHANNESBURG: The Cricket South Africa (CSA) has announced here Sunday that the series against Pakistan would be held according to schedule and there is no truth in the news of the series postponement.

CSA chief executive Gerald Majola has declared a British newspaper’s claim baseless that the South African players had expressed their reservations on playing the series against Pakistan.

He said that Pakistan's forthcoming "home" series against South Africa in the United Arab Emirates next month would go on as scheduled and will not be affected by the match-fixing controversy surrounding the Pakistan team in England

Majola said there was not truth in media reports in England that the South Africans were reluctant to go ahead with the series because of the match-fixing allegations.

He said that the series between Pakistan and South Africa is a part of the ICC future tour programme which was approved by all member countries so there is no question of the series cancellation.

The CSA chief said that as far as the match-fixing matters are concerned the ICC is investigating through its anti-corruption unit.

The series between Pakistan and South Africa has been scheduled to be played in October-November Dubai and Abu Dhabi and it would consist of two Test matches, five One-day Internationals and a Twenty20 match.
Series against Pakistan to be held as per schedule: South Africa

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oh god! another ploy of BCCI and ICC to bankrupt PCB....:D

and moreover how dare the pakistani's spot fix the 3rd ODI ?, when they are constantly being spied upon after the no-ball fiasco?? they themselves know that whatever wud follow next they would be constantly spied....

i really dont belive this time pakistanis are or were involved in 3rd odi spot fixing...


They aren't.

It's the British themselves. Go read the news.
 

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Its just an attempt to keep Pakistan out of world cricket , so no teams will be forced to travel to Pakistan -

Why is entire world against Pakistan playing cricket?

And also the revenue to Pakistan for World cup can be kept by ICC becasue Pakistan will be banned for any participation for 1 year.

There will be no 2011 worldcup matches in Pakistan.. that had been decided last year itself.

South African players should be simple fined

Fine??..what their match fees??..but they do not want to play the match!!

Pakistan also has 100 newspapers and they say alot of stuff , about other teams does not means that ICC should launch a investigation on every tabloid in Pakistan.
Clearly there is more to it, than just a tabloid expose.. ICC already hinted towards it.

"The Sun's undercover team was able to pass details to ICC inspectors before the match began.

Cricket chiefs then watched as Pakistan's score mirrored the target that bookies had been told in advance by a fixer."

Cricket chiefs probe new Pakistan fix claims | The Sun |News
 
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They aren't.

It's the British themselves. Go read the news.
you totally mis-understood me. I meant to say that i cannot belive these allegations time. They seem so unreal.

What would you guys do if it turns out to be true?

And this izaz butt has accused english team of fixing. Waiting to see english media and its countrymens response.
 

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