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Greetings Everyone,

It is with a heavy heart that I am opening this thread. In the last one week my my hopelessness regarding Pakistan has gradually increased. The reason is a piece of news my university alumini came across last week and was spread like wildfire. The link to the news is

CTD releases images of Safoora carnage, Sabeen Mahmud killers - thenews.com.pk

On closer inspection it was realized that the alleged terrorist in the picture on the right side was actually Sir Ali Rehman (calling a senior SIR is the culture of EME) from NUST, my senior and later my class fellow because of relegation. So he got education from Pakistan best engineering school which is run by Pak Army. Before I move on I must paint you his picture. He was a chill student, never into grades (the reason for his relegation), was an excellent basketball player, played a musical instrument, had a girl friend(as per rumors), had his final year project with two girls, excellent in embedded systems programming and mechanical modelling using ProE and AutoCAD. If I am not wrong he made more than 4 robots during his studies. He was the goto person whenever a problem occurred in micro controllers. So pretty much a normal hostel living student hailing from Karachi except for the fact that he didnt have any close friends.

Post graduation, we all class fellows got scattered, only fast friends remained in touch. Somehow he got off my radar screen. After six months or so, we got the news that he got into Uni Lever in Karachi a multinational company. He had his friends from my senior batch also working there. As per the reports he was into six figure salary. But he wasn't in contact with any of his class fellows. He soon was nowhere to be seen, neither on facebook no news.

Except last week when his picture appeared in the news. Soon our alumini started recognizing him. Soon we all remembered him and soon it was depression that followed. As per people in Unilever he resigned out of the blue one day and was never heard afterwards, his number got switched off and thats it. Another terrorist named in the news is the son of a senior Unilever employee. What was Sir Ali thinking? What happened to him? What convinced him to become a monster?

The point is, if someone from a decent family, educated from Pakistan's best engineering college, employed in a multinational can be brainwashed, what is the hope for the poor,uneducated , unemployed masses? How easy it must be to brainwash a kid from backward areas, with little or no education, with non existent employement /career? How easy it must be for enemies of Pakistan? How easily baluchistan /tribal areas/ rural sindh and rural Punjab can be manipluated?

We have made the job of our enemies too much easy. We are simply hopeless. Before this I used to believe only madrassas, poverty, joblessness, unawareness is responsible. But now the evil ideology has proved that it can penetrate the top 5% of the society as well. We need to be better prepared to fight this evil.

PS:- Some part of me is still unable to believe that he really is involved. But the evidence is pointing otherwise.

@Norwegian @HRK @Zarvan
 
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The point is, if someone from a decent family, educated from Pakistan's best engineering college, employed in a multinational can be brainwashed, what is the hope for the poor,uneducated , unemployed masses? How easy it must be to brainwash a kid from backward areas, with little or no education, with non existent employement /career? How easy it must be for enemies of Pakistan? How easily baluchistan /tribal areas/ rural sindh and rural Punjab can be manipluated?
Valid concerns
 

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The point is, if someone from a decent family, educated from Pakistan's best engineering college, employed in a multinational can be brainwashed, what is the hope for the poor,uneducated , unemployed masses?
I don't think he was just "brainwashed" out of the blue. He may have been radicalised through social media over the years, and when he found "jihad" to be his ultimate goal in life, he chose that path. Or it could just be as simple as that he was blackmailed into doing this. We may never know the facts unless proper investigations are carried out.
 

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I'll never understand what on earth drives people like him to murder, jihad and terrorism.. tragic.

like someone else said in another thread, maybe Pakistan needs an Ataturk type leader to transform it's society.
 

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top right one... Ali Rehman
Oh, that one! He seems like a good guy. Someone's gotta put trail on him. Ask his parents, siblings, closest friends. He might have said something to them before going haywire. :cry:

I'll never understand what on earth drives people like him to murder, jihad and terrorism.. tragic.
Psychologists in the West say: Angry Muslims. Some people have serious anger management issues. Their blood is boiling 24/7 with mindless hate, bigotry against somebody. Hence the revenge in a form of terrorism is the only cure for their miserable lives.
 

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Greetings Everyone,

The point is, if someone from a decent family, educated from Pakistan's best engineering college, employed in a multinational can be brainwashed, what is the hope for the poor,uneducated , unemployed masses? How easy it must be to brainwash a kid from backward areas, with little or no education, with non existent employement /career? How easy it must be for enemies of Pakistan? How easily baluchistan /tribal areas/ rural sindh and rural Punjab can be manipluated?
Education.. Hmmm.

You are talking about worldly education. The one you get in universities.

The other education is one you get at home. The one of values. Our society is slowly becoming illiterate in this second version of education. Ours is becoming a materialistic society where we are losing good values fast. This is where the hole is. This is where we get indoctrinated.

Bring someone educated at Harvard, Oxford or MIT. It that person does not have good values taught at home, he is vulnerable to indoctrination.

This is what we call 'Taleem o tarbiyyat' in Urdu. We have taleem. We cant say confidently if we have tarbiyyat too.
 

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This radicalization is gradual
Often it starts with organizations like Hizbul Tahrir....Tanzeem e Islami
These guys mostly target the educated youth in universities
And for some its a downhill slide from there
Currently with ISIS and all the sectarian mess in the Middle East we have a problem on our hands
 

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Psychologists in the West say: Angry Muslims. Some people have serious anger management issues. Their blood is boiling 24/7 with mindless hate, bigotry against somebody. Hence the revenge in a form of terrorism is the only cure for their miserable lives.
good college education, a woman, decent job.. angry about what ?

this is not restricted to Pakistan by any means, we've had a few leave for Syria, and then there was the shami witness twitter guy.. well educated, working proper, appeared to be "normal" to other colleagues, friends and family.. but infected with the isis virus.. wtf o_O
 

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The other education is one you get at home. The one of values. Our society is slowly becoming illiterate in this second version of education. Ours is becoming a materialistic society where we are losing good values fast. This is where the hole is. This is where we get indoctrinated.
Unfortunately the family gets to know in some cases when its too late.

Speaks a lot about family bonds too.
 

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good college education, a woman, decent job.. angry about what ?

this is not restricted to Pakistan by any means, we've had a few leave for Syria, and then there was the shami witness twitter guy.. well educated, working proper, appeared to be "normal" to other colleagues, friends and family.. but infected with the isis virus.. wtf o_O
For some maniacs, the life is not really as simple as A4: education, job, woman, kids and so on. They want thrill or 'kick' in their life as Salman Khan's movie depicted it quite well. Some are lucky enough to pursue their goals very well. Others, who fail join ISIS... :D
 

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We have made the job of our enemies too much easy. We are simply hopeless. Before this I used to believe only madrassas, poverty, joblessness, unawareness is responsible. But now the evil ideology has proved that it can penetrate the top 5% of the society as well. We need to be better prepared to fight this evil.
How do you propose to fight this evil?
 

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