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Shafiq Mengal- State Sponsored group went rouge and became LEJ-A

Discussion in 'Pakistan's Internal Security' started by Bratva, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Areesh

    Areesh ELITE MEMBER

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    Asking questions is good an positive. But questions should be asked from everyone including the party that you support.
     
  2. Talwar e Pakistan

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    Isn't Shafiq Mengal the leader of a pro-Pakistani militia that helped helped defeat the BLA insurgency in many districts?
     
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    I can answer U that and ofcourse U wud not like it. Dr Malik got the post of CM as a deal with PML (N) as almost half of the tenure was suppose to be ruled by Mr Malik's party while rest was to be ruled by PML (N) as they had the seats and support of Mr CHAKZAI for that. And here are the complete details of the deal.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/867955/balochistan-deal-sanaullah-zehri-says-he-will-be-the-next-cm/

    Now plz tell me who really sabotaged attempts of Mr Malik?

    @Areesh
     
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    Where is the hard evidence that Zardari and Nawaz are corroupt. So, they aren't? They recently organized a rally in Islamabad where chants of "kafir kafir, .... kafir " were raised. They even said, we dont' give a damn about any national, any action, or any plan. The leader from Punjab or his son is contesting elections in Jhang. If I recall, a deceased leader of the "banned" outfit was brought in to negotiate in GHQ's siege.
     
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  5. naveedullahkhankhattak

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    every state have their pets. indians have too in afghanistan which are used against pakistan.
    secondly if people know that much about the group then without any doubt i can say that ISI knows more about them and may have infiltrated the groups.
     
  6. naveedullahkhankhattak

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    LEJ-A is a splinter group of LEJ. jamat ul ahrar is a splinter group of taliban.
    LEJ-A joined ISIS. JA joined alqaeda.
    LEJ-A carried many attacks in collaboration with ISIS in afghanistan.
    JA is considered to be a group that can still do terrorism itself alone but recent alqaeda defeats have decreased their funds and it joined ISIS after this problem.
     
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    If true severe action should be taken against him. The problem is only empowering Balochs to rule and run Balochistan is the solution to the problem. But then when that is done we have douches like Shafiq Mengal who take advantage. It is an unfortunate truth. There should be a process for vetting to understand which group would be the most successful in running their regions in Balochistan. There is an acknowledgement in the center that the dealing of anti Pakistan groips and control of regions inhabited by Baloch should be a responsibility of the Baloch themselves. The problem arises when opportunists who want to increase their power take advantage. Shafiq Mengal may be one such person.

    As far as LEJ is concerned we already know state has done little to target it but this is changing as the killing of malik ishaq proved. But the nexus between government and mullahs has not been broken. In remote areas like Musa Khel and Shinwari regions it is almost a given that takfiri mullahs will be elected. PMLN gave seats to ASWJ mullahs and PPPP gave a seat to people like Mian Mithoo responsible for the Rinkle Kumari case.

    And @Horus this is not about shia sunni. Its about taking action against sectarian militant groups the same way we take action or over react to ethnic militant groups like BLA/BRA. Any pussy footing around taking action against one group while taking severe action against the other will raise eyebrows. LEJ/TTP is a far worse enemy than the Baloch nationalist groups but we have failed to break their back.
     
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    Remember India making this blunder in Punjab insurgency
     
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    Shafiq mengal is sponsored by FC Balochistan. by Misusing of power they are damaging the national interests of Pakistan. FC seems to be the enemy of Pakistan it self.
     
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    Thank you for posting. Somehow some people will remain in denial, be it state patronage of Malik Ishaq, Abdul Aziz or Sufi Muhammad.
     
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    The state has to deal with all manner of people. Only someone deluded will think that the state should start killing everyone instead of talking to them.