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    Serbia’s Yugoimport-SDPR (Stand 12-E20) is unveiling its new Milosh (4x4) multi-purpose armoured vehicle for the first time.

    Milosh has been developed to undertake a wide range of battlefield missions including use as an ambulance, armoured personnel carrier (APC), command vehicle and reconnaissance vehicle, as well as a platform for various weapon systems.

    It has an all-welded steel armour hull with an appliqué passive armour package, which provides protection to NATO STANAG 4569 standards.

    The front-mounted power pack consists of a Cummins ISB 300 diesel engine coupled to an Allison 3500 SP automatic transmission, which gives a maximum road speed of up to 110km/h.

    The new T700 drive line has been developed by Timoney and Texelis to meet a maximum gross axle weight requirement of up to 7,000kg, which gives a gross vehicle weight of 14,000kg. This uses proven modular assemblies such as wheel hubs and differentials from the Texelis rigid axle range in conjunction with Timoney independent suspension technology, to provide a high level of cross-country mobility and a good ride for the occupants. The Milosh powered steering system has also been designed by Timoney.

    The complete wheel assembly has been provided by Tyron and uses runflat inserts to ensure the mobility of the vehicle for up to 50km in case the tyres are damaged by enemy action.

    When being used as an APC, Milosh typically has a crew of eight consisting of commander, gunner, driver and five dismounts who can rapidly leave the Milosh via doors in the sides or the power-operated ramp at the rear, which can be operated by the driver or the dismounts.

    A wide range of weapons can be mounted on the roof including a locally developed remote weapon station armed with a stabilised 12.7mm machine gun coupled to a day/night sensor suite.

    Standard equipment includes an air-conditioning system, NBC system, communications and day/ night driving equipment.

    http://www.janes.com/article/67909/milosh-motors-in-idex17d2

    IDEX 2017: Lazar aims for Africa

    The new Lazar III 8x8 multi-role armoured vehicle, built by Serbia's Yugoimport, is being pushed towards the export market in Africa.

    A spokesperson from the company told Shephard that the new Lazar 8x8 is much more cost effective than equivalent 8x8 vehicles like Patria's AMV.

    According to the spokesperson the Lazar is half the price and therefore any interested armies could get two vehicles for the price of one AMV. He added that the capability of the vehicle is, if not close to, then the same as the Finnish or other western counterparts.

    If that is the case then its value would certainly be attractive to the African marketplace which would need a cheaper platform on offer to even to be able to consider the purchase of a new armoured vehicle.

    The spokesperson insisted that the Yugoimport has used all of the best quality systems on the market to produce the Lazar III. This includes a Cummins engine with 520hp, Tyron Runflats and Allison Transmission with Timoney providing the drive line systems. It also means that replacement parts are easy to source and cheaper than bespoke systems.

    'Timoney is the best. Whatever Patria uses is not as good but you get our vehicle at 50% the cost of Patria's,' he added. But if any African countries prefer their own system then Yugoimport is happy to install these instead if they wish.

    At IDEX the company is displaying two variants of the vehicle; the civilian variant that is used by the Serbian police, and a new military variant which is amphibious and fitted with a Russian 2A42A turret that has a 30mm cannon and coaxial 7.62mm machine gun or an anti-tank weapon.

    The spokesperson said that the military variant is in testing by Serbia's independent military testing organisation and they are expecting the results this year. The Serbian police have been using the civilian variant of Lazar III for the past year on the border with Kosovo doing counter-terrorist operations. Its introduction had followed two years of testing.

    He said that the company has a lot of experience with Russian amphibious vehicles and this is why they are able to develop a modern 8x8 with a much lower budget than equivalent western European and US companies.

    He has high hopes for the Lazar III and although the Serbian army has only a small budget the government is considering the new vehicles because they are still using the same equipment they had back in 1991 before the break-up of Yugoslavia.

    The vehicle is 8m long, 3m wide with a weight of 28t – the same weight as the AMV28A, Patria's new amphibious vehicle variant that was launched at IDEX. Lazar III can achieve a top speed of 110km/h and has 15m² of crew space.

    https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/idex-2017-lazar-aims-africa/

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    New G2000/52 is a 122mm rocket with a range of 52 km. G2000 has a range of 40 km.

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    Serbia Develops Sumadija Tactical Missile With Ranges Exceeding 280 Km

    Serbia’s Yugoimport-SDPR has developed a new Sumadija guided artillery rocket with ranges exceeding 280 km.

    The new Sumadija tactical missile was formally unveiled at IDEX 2017 defence exhibition. The Sumadija is designed for destruction of enemy area targets such as military bases, airports, ports and port facilities, important transport nodes and crossroads, factories and other significant immovable objects on land at distances of up to 280 km.

    The Sumadija missile is intended for use against high-value, well-fortified, fixed targets and is armed with a 200-kg high-explosive or fragmentation warhead.

    Yugoimport-SDPR reported that the Sumadija has a diameter of 400 mm, a length of 8250 mm, a total weight of 1502 kg, and a 200 kg warhead.

    http://defence-blog.com/news/serbia...cal-missile-with-ranges-exceeding-280-km.html

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    Nice pic of Lazar III
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    launch vehicle presumably still under development?
    Fap 2228 big enough or will it require something like FAP 3240 Orkan type chassis?
     
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    It will probably be Kamaz or MAZ.



     
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    This would be unfortunate. While I can understand the need to buy something so highly advanced and engineered like Timoney drive systems, there is no reason to import trucks that Serbia has been building for decades.

    I understand the problems with FAP you described before, but hopefully, with FAP nationalized in November, debt turned into Capitol, and talk of cooperation with Belarus on FAP production, any platforms for šumadija will be built in Serbia with Serbian hands.
     
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    Largest FAP truck (3240) is not big enough and it doesn't have the necessary payload to carry these rockets.
     
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    ALAS on IDEX with new propulsion system. Everything is in the last phase of development, system is integrated on NIMR vehicle. You can see one of successful flights and hitting the target on the video below (0:00-0:43s).



    They will soon start the tests with real warheads.
     
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    ok, I see now. Like M96 Orkan 2 it would require something like Zil-135 type platform.
    there's also talk of partnership with Volat (Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant) , and it would be nice to see some joint production too.
     
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    Yugoimport Complex Battle Systems factory

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    So far according to our prime minister, Serbia ordered 12 Lazar III for Serbian army (total planned number in the next few years is 54), 6 Lazar III for Serbian Gendarmerie, 6 BOV M16 Milos for SAJ (Special Antiterrorist Unit), and 18 Nora B52 for the Serbian army.

    They are also planning to invest 15-20 million dollars in the new production line for BOV M16 Milos, most probably in FAP. There are also plans for domestic production of independent suspension.
     
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    Some impressive developments for a small country like Serbia I must say, great job. :cheers:
     
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    it is impressive, but Serbia has always been a strong Industrial Potential, even after it's Factories were dismantled by the communists after WW2 and factories shipped across former Yugoslavia.

    Vucic said there are orders for 700 Lazar 3 waiting for manufacturing potential to catch up. It's very good to see the foundations of industry being poured anew.
     
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    serbian defence industry developments are probably one of the more interesting out there