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Dear Pak Friends,

The most strategic crisis since Desert Storm is unfolding here in the neighbourhood of Pak, yet I see no movement from Pak PM or FO. Why this inertia?

Surely, whatever happens in GCC has direct effect on Pak economy and national security. Yet this defeaning silence from Mr. Sharif... why?

Mr. Sharif has so friendly, nay, brotherly relationship with all of the ruling elite of GCC yet...not a word or action. Hopefully, he is not ill again with his famous heart.

What do you think Pak's involvement could/would be to help resolve this rather big crisis.

Anyhow, let us wait and see how it develops further. Fat Lady hasn't started singing yet..it is just the orchestra tunning the instruements...

Seems like something more than wounded pride in action against Qatar... @Khafee what giveth?


Coup in Doha might turn out to be a double-edgged sowrd.


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Under this corrupt and incompetent regime, every institution has been neglected or destroyed since this govt's main focus is on robbing the national exchequer and staying in power to protect its corruption. Pakistan does not even have a foreign minister. The govt of Pakistan is acting numb to the chaos in the region but it is affecting us and will affect us.

Pakistan's proper role is to negotiate a truce between GCC states. But I don't think the current incompetent and corrupt govt can play any role. Since NS has no integrity and respect, which became evident in the recent Arab summit fiasco. However if Pakistani establishment plays an active role and egages other influential countries of the region on this issue then these states can be forced to reconcile and discuss their issues through peaceful dialogue.
 
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Believe me, persian empire wont get victory, forever. Coz Prophet Muhammad (shalawat and peace be upon him) has prayed for their destruction.
 
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KSA need be careful of what she want. Pulling Hejaz and Eastern province is already overwhelming for Nadj.

The ultra-instability nature of Saudi regional politics is what makes you guys stooge USA. Annexing Qatar will be the last straw that may lead of the fragmentation of KSA.
Should you not create more ID's with new nationalities other than the 10 that you have already created my "Chinese" friend?

First of all all those historical regions, out of many others in KSA and Arabia, do not exist any longer other than as regional entities. Today there are no sharp divides any longer. In any case those regions were always similar as are all historical regions in Arabia and much of the Arab world.

There will be no annexation currently but eventually this will occur and it will be a natural process for the entire GCC, Yemen included, and possibly Jordan and Iraq (if it manages to survive in its current state).

Anyway the only stumbling block to such a thing being done again is the US and fear of even more KSA hegemony in terms of natural resources. However there is no need for such a thing de jure as there is already a de facto economic unity within the GCC and the future of the GCC is closely intertwined. Which is why no wars will erupt in the region. Only with external factors and the only candidate so far is Iran but even that is highly unlikely.
 
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What makes you think that you can wage a successful war against the GCC let alone Egypt or all the Arab states that have cut diplomatic ties with Qatar, in their own backyard far away from your country, when you cannot deal with the Al-Assad regime next door or Iraq next door? Not only that, do you really believe that your Erdogan is this stupid? Why is your Erdogan silent? When the coup attempt occurred last year Qatar were very vocal. However you are silent. I don't think Qatar needs or should count on you but rather the US that allows them to exist in the first place as an independent nation.

Don't forget that Qatar has been part of empires and civilizations originating in Arabia (modern-day KSA in other words) for millennia and that it was until fairly recently even a part of House of Saud ruled kingdoms.



How can Qatar even survive on its own on the long run with a tiny population of 200.000? Why do you think that they need 10 times as many expats (Arab as non-Arab) to run their country. Would Qatar even have a remotely similar influence as they have currently, without that not being the case? How will their family rule (Al-Thani) survive post-gas? Obviously they will be swallowed up by an Arabian "superstate" sometime in the future and the backbone of such a superstate will be composed of what is today KSA and Saudi Arabians. Similar story with Bahrain although they have a bigger native population but they are many times smaller than Qatar. Same story with Kuwait. It will either be absorbed by KSA or Iraq next door. Like throughout most of recorded history. Oman on the other hand is one of the oldest nation states in the world with an imperial past themselves so they will do fine. UAE will do fine as well although both will eventually become a part of such a superstate. GCC is basically the beginning of that. Time will do the rest.



Good luck blondie. You will need plenty of that should your fairytale fantasy even remotely resemble the reality. May I help donate for a brain transplantation? You seem badly in need of one. Where was your Greek/Albanian deity in this regard? Nowhere to be seen. Go bother tiny landlocked Armenia. That should be your goal. Not bothering something much bigger, populous, richer, influential and stronger. Last time you pissed us off you returned headless and where chased a away from the few military barracks that you controlled. Here 100 years later you are still daydreaming. Cute. Very cute.
i am sure that Egypt will help our allies in the gulf if needed we have nothing to worry about even if turkey overreact what the worse they could do make a speech about us ?? dealing with qatar have been my wish for a long time glad to see it finally happening
 

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Turkey offers to help resolve Gulf-Qatar row
Ankara urged dialogue between the Gulf States, adding that issues must be resolved peacefully [AFP]

Date of publication: 5 June, 2017

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  • Qatar, Gulf, Diplomatic Ties, Saudi Arabia, Yemen UAE, Egypt, Bahrain
    Turkey on Monday has offered to help defuse the row between Qatar and several Arab states, including Saudi Arabia and Egypt, in what has become the biggest diplomatic crisis to hit the region in several years.
    Ankara urged dialogue between the Gulf States, adding that issues must be resolved "peacefully".

    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the severing of diplomatic ties between Qatar and five Arab countries "really saddened all of us".

    "There could be problems between the countries but dialogue must prevail under all circumstances," Cavusoglu told reporters, adding Ankara was ready to do its best to help resolve the dispute.

    "We will give any kind of support for the situation to be normalised," he said.

    Read more: What does 'severing ties' with Qatar actually mean?

    Turkey enjoys friendly relations with Qatar - including in the energy sector - but also maintains good ties with other Gulf countries.

    Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen joined Saudi Arabia and Egypt in severing relations with gas-rich Qatar, with Riyadh accusing Doha of supporting groups "that aim to destabilise the region".

    Qatar has long denied any support of extremists, and accused its Gulf neighbours of seeking to put the country under "guardianship".

    Meanwhile Iran also urged Qatar and neighbouring Guff states to engage in dialogue.

    "The solution to differences between states in the region, including the current problem between Qatar and its three neighbours, is only possible through political and peaceful methods and dialogue between the parties," Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Bahram Ghasemi said in a statement published on the ministry's website on Monday.

    Read more: Qatar denounces 'unjustified and pre-planned' Gulf diplomatic attack

    The escalation is likely to have wide-ranging consequences, not just for Qatar and its citizens but around the Middle East and for Western interests.

    Qatar hosts the largest US airbase in the region, which is crucial to operations against Islamic State group militants. The country is also set to host the 2022 football World Cup.

    Monday's announcement came less than a month after US President Donald Trump visited Saudi Arabia to cement ties with Riyadh, where he called for a united front among Muslim countries against extremism.

    It also followed weeks of rising tensions between Doha and its neighbours, including Qatari accusations of a concerted media campaign against the country and the alleged hacking of the Qatar News Agency.

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Turkey offers to help resolve Gulf-Qatar row
Ankara urged dialogue between the Gulf States, adding that issues must be resolved peacefully [AFP]

Date of publication: 5 June, 2017

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  • Qatar, Gulf, Diplomatic Ties, Saudi Arabia, Yemen UAE, Egypt, Bahrain
    Turkey on Monday has offered to help defuse the row between Qatar and several Arab states, including Saudi Arabia and Egypt, in what has become the biggest diplomatic crisis to hit the region in several years.
    Ankara urged dialogue between the Gulf States, adding that issues must be resolved "peacefully".

    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the severing of diplomatic ties between Qatar and five Arab countries "really saddened all of us".

    "There could be problems between the countries but dialogue must prevail under all circumstances," Cavusoglu told reporters, adding Ankara was ready to do its best to help resolve the dispute.

    "We will give any kind of support for the situation to be normalised," he said.

    Read more: What does 'severing ties' with Qatar actually mean?

    Turkey enjoys friendly relations with Qatar - including in the energy sector - but also maintains good ties with other Gulf countries.

    Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen joined Saudi Arabia and Egypt in severing relations with gas-rich Qatar, with Riyadh accusing Doha of supporting groups "that aim to destabilise the region".

    Qatar has long denied any support of extremists, and accused its Gulf neighbours of seeking to put the country under "guardianship".

    Meanwhile Iran also urged Qatar and neighbouring Guff states to engage in dialogue.

    "The solution to differences between states in the region, including the current problem between Qatar and its three neighbours, is only possible through political and peaceful methods and dialogue between the parties," Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Bahram Ghasemi said in a statement published on the ministry's website on Monday.

    Read more: Qatar denounces 'unjustified and pre-planned' Gulf diplomatic attack

    The escalation is likely to have wide-ranging consequences, not just for Qatar and its citizens but around the Middle East and for Western interests.

    Qatar hosts the largest US airbase in the region, which is crucial to operations against Islamic State group militants. The country is also set to host the 2022 football World Cup.

    Monday's announcement came less than a month after US President Donald Trump visited Saudi Arabia to cement ties with Riyadh, where he called for a united front among Muslim countries against extremism.

    It also followed weeks of rising tensions between Doha and its neighbours, including Qatari accusations of a concerted media campaign against the country and the alleged hacking of the Qatar News Agency.

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KSA need be careful of what she want. Pulling Hejaz and Eastern province is already overwhelming for Nadj.

The ultra-instability nature of Saudi regional politics is what makes you guys stooge USA. Annexing Qatar will be the last straw that may lead of the fragmentation of KSA.
Should you not create more ID's with new nationalities other than the 10 that you have already created my "Chinese" friend?

First of all all those historical regions, out of many others in KSA and Arabia, do not exist any longer other than as regional entities. Today there are no sharp divides any longer. In any case those regions were always similar as are all historical regions in Arabia and much of the Arab world.

There will be no annexation currently but eventually this will occur and it will be a natural process for the entire GCC, Yemen included, and possibly Jordan and Iraq (if it manages to survive in its current state).

Anyway the only stumbling block to such a thing being done again is the US and fear of even more KSA hegemony in terms of natural resources. However there is no need for such a thing de jure as there is already a de facto economic unity within the GCC and the future of the GCC is closely intertwined. Which is why no wars will erupt in the region. Only with external factors and the only candidate so far is Iran but even that is highly unlikely.

Believe me, persian empire wont get victory forever. Coz Prophet Muhammad (shalawat and peace be upon him) has pray for their destruction.
Bro, Arabs from modern-day KSA already destroyed it forever almost 1500 years ago. What is left is a few Zoroastrians and daydreamers living in a sea of Arabparasts.



That's why you have dozens of Iranian users here trying to act more Arab than the Arabs and the best ones at this 1400 year old discipline are the Mullah's ruling Iran.


Nice Arabic though. I have to give it to him:


Anyway Arabs have no reason to be obsessed about Iran as they never did us anything really but it is a different story the other way around. Our problem is mostly with the Iranian regime. The people do not bother us which is why Iranians are tolerated in the GCC where their second largest diaspora is found. In many ways Southern and Western Iranians are similar to us. Probably more than we would like to admit or even realize. Not surprising given history or the close geographic proximity. Outside of troll fights or dick measuring contests on forums, I don't have any reason for showing any hostility towards the average Iranian whatever his ethnicity is (Arab, Assyrian, Georgian, Caucasian, Azeri, Baloch, Turkmen, Persian, Kurd, Afro-Iranian etc.). Nor sectarian reasons as I have nothing against Shias. My problem is the policy of the Iranian regime. As if some peaceful Iranian living in a village in Isfahan province is my enemy, lol. I will let a certain segment of Iranians (mostly diaspora) be obsessed about Arabs to such an degree. However this excludes anti-Arab Iranians.

i am sure that Egypt will help our allies in the gulf if needed we have nothing to worry about even if turkey overreact what the worse they could do make a speech about us ?? dealing with qatar have been my wish for a long time glad to see it finally happening
Of course we have nothing to worry about, brother. However I am more curious about what this really is about as I don't think that the official explanations are enough. Something has definitely happened behind the curtains that we will have to find out in the coming time. I think that it is related to Yemen.

In any regard, Qatari mouth pieces such as Al-Jazeera and their propaganda against many Arab states reached unacceptable heights, in particular against Egypt. To such an extend that they tolerated people calling for terrorism openly in Egypt. Similar stupid actions will no longer be tolerated. It's something related to Sheikh Hamad and his son. Something is definitely wrong with those two individuals as there were never any problems before Sheikh Hamad toppled his own father in 1995, who died not long ago. Qatar can have their own policy but it should not be a policy that puts the GCC and much of the Arab world in jeopardy. That will obviously not be tolerated.

I am sure that those 2 US bases in Qatar could be relocated to nearby smaller GCC states or even temporarily letting them use bases within KSA or elsewhere in the region. Those 2 bases should not be an excuse for the US which is the only relevant non-native country in this dispute. Neither Iran or Turkey plays any role here.
 
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Dr. Anwar Gargash, UAE Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, summarize a lot in recent Hashtags

He said that what happened was the result of several accumulations and many years of the Doha trend in recent years to work in a harmful way to the GCC and member countries. This trend was translated in support of party groups that are primarily a threat to the Gulf countries and even to their societies in other Arab countries, and what was said previously in a statement today supported by other parties is to confirm that the 2014 crisis in the withdrawal of ambassadors did not work in changing behavior and the incorrigible dialogue

He adds that the subject has nothing to do with the independence of the resolution and the non-dependence and beyond that Qatar is free and it is not necessary for Saudi Arabia, the UAE or any country to impose guardianship on what Doha wants to do. The independence of the direction and the decision is guaranteed but it is rejected not in its origin. But as the orientation is harmful to Member States
 

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I am not against any group just concerned what will be the outcome of this crisis


Right now in Pakistan there is epic confusion what the fish just happened and what should our policy be?
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Pakistan has no plans to cut off ties with Qatar
June 5, 2017

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Pakistan has no immediate plans to cut off diplomatic ties with Qatar, a spokesperson for the foreign ministry said on Monday.

“[The country] has no such plans,” said Nafees Zakaria, following Monday’s surprise severing of ties with Qatar by Islamabad’s key ally, Saudi Arabia, and three other Middle East nations.

“At the moment there is nothing on Qatar issue,” Zakaria said. “[We] will issue a statement if some development takes place.”

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain severed their ties with Qatar on Monday, accusing it of supporting terrorism, opening up the worst rift in years among some of the most powerful states in the Arab world.

The coordinated move dramatically escalates a dispute over Qatar’s support of the Muslim Brotherhood, the world’s oldest Islamist movement, and adds accusations that Doha even backs the agenda of Saudi Arabia’s regional arch-rival Iran.

Pakistan, which has a significant Shia Muslim population, has in recent years been caught between the feud between its Sunni ally, Saudi Arabia, and Shia-majority neighbor Iran.
https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/06/pakistan-has-no-plans-to-cut-off-ties-with-qatar/
We will wait and see what happens in few days and react accordingly
This is the beauty of being a central power. You're equidistant to all arcs. And, this happens to the folks who carry the DNA of building empires with as much racial linguistic, religious, geographic etc. diversification as possible. And, this occurs not by accidents but by designs!!!!
 

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Kuwaiti Emir meets with Saudi royal adviser, urges Qatar to ‘contain tensions’

Prince Khalid bin Faisal was received by upon his arrival by Kuwait’s Minister of State for Cabinet Affairs and Acting Minister of Information. (KUNA)

Staff writer, Al Arabiya EnglishMonday, 5 June 2017

Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah Al Ahmad Al Jaber Al Sabah has met with key adviser to Saudi Arabia’s King Salman Prince Khalid bin Faisal Al Saud on Monday night and had urged Qatari Emir Tamim to contain tensions during phone hours later.

Kuwait's official news agency said that Prince Khalid delivered a letter from Saudi King Salman to the Kuwaiti Emir that discussed bilateral ties between the two Gulf countries and the latest regional developments.

Prince Khalid bin Faisal, the current Governor of Makkah Province, was received by upon his arrival by Kuwait’s Minister of State for Cabinet Affairs and Acting Minister of Information Sheikh Mohammed Al-Abdullah Al-Sabah.

Hours after meeting with the Saudi delegation, the Kuwaiti Emir phoned Qatari Emir Tamim Al-Thani and urged him to “exercise restraint and refrain from steps that would escalate the situation”.

“In a phone call with the Qatari Emir, (Kuwait’s Emir) hoped Sheikh Tamim would give a chance to efforts aimed at containing tension in brotherly relations among brothers,” according to a statement by Kuwait News Agency (KUNA).

Last Update: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 KSA 01:14 - GMT 22:14

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...audi-Arabia-s-King-Salman-reaches-Kuwait.html

Houthi militia leaders, Iran come to Qatar’s defense after severance of ties

Mohammad Ali al-Houthi expressed readiness to cooperate with Qatar, describing them as ‘loyal’. (File photo: AFP)
Staff writer, Al Arabiya English

Tuesday, 6 June 2017

Houthi militia leadership joined Iran in declaring their support for Qatar after several GCC states and Egypt severed ties with Doha on Monday in the latest developments of a widening rift between Qatar and its Gulf neighbors.

Mohammad Ali al-Houthi, head of the so-called Revolutionary Committee, expressed readiness to cooperate with Qatar, describing them as “loyal”.

The Arab Coalition has also announced that it has suspended Qatar’s participation in all efforts to restore the legitimate government in Yemen.

Meanwhile, Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Bahram Qassimi said that Tehran considered the use of sanctions as “an inefficient, blameworthy, rejected, and unacceptable move”.

EXPLAINER: Reasons why Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt severed ties with Qatar

General Authority of Civil Aviation (GACA) has issued a decision banning all Qatari airlines and aircraft from landing at Saudi Arabia’s airports immediately.

It has also been estimated that Qatar stands to lose 82 percent of its Gulf imports due to closing of the borders and economic sanctions. Qatar relies heavily on the Gulf countries in its trade and imports, especially with Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

However, the Association of Iranian Agricultural Exporters announced that it would be ready to supply Qatar with food products and other needs.

Last Update: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 KSA 01:55 - GMT 22:55

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-Qatar-s-defense-after-severance-of-ties.html

No surprise that the Houthi terrorist cultists and the Iranian Mullah's are trying to give olive branches to Qatar, however will Qatar be suicidal enough to bite the bait? Very little points to this. If Tamim takes the bite we should finish him off as we finished his father off, Gaddafi and other barking clowns that tried to stir trouble up in our lands. Whatever treachery has occurred (because everything points to that being the case) will not be forgotten as per Arab culture, in particular in the GCC. Qatar (more precisely the current regime in power) has committed a huge mistake. Trust will not come out of a sudden but real changes will have to follow as well. Qatar's actions will be closely monitored from now on and and conclusions will be drawn and actions taken if the lines will be crossed.
 
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However if Pakistani establishment plays an active role and egages other influential countries of the region on this issue then these states can be forced to reconcile and discuss their issues through peaceful dialogue.
Who knows they're already may be there. Anyway, this sort of Musibet is nothing to be afraid of. Rather, they bear the opportunity to extract a thousand Nesihat. Now, all the folks in the region may put their heads together to see where things have gone wrong. How come they always remain at the losers' end with Jan, Mal and Namus being destroyed the way the river of lava from a volcanic eruption destroys everything on its path!!!

Kuwaiti Emir meets with Saudi royal adviser, urges Qatar to ‘contain tensions’

Prince Khalid bin Faisal was received by upon his arrival by Kuwait’s Minister of State for Cabinet Affairs and Acting Minister of Information. (KUNA)

Staff writer, Al Arabiya EnglishMonday, 5 June 2017

Kuwaiti Emir Sheikh Sabah Al Ahmad Al Jaber Al Sabah has met with key adviser to Saudi Arabia’s King Salman Prince Khalid bin Faisal Al Saud on Monday night and had urged Qatari Emir Tamim to contain tensions during phone hours later.

Kuwait's official news agency said that Prince Khalid delivered a letter from Saudi King Salman to the Kuwaiti Emir that discussed bilateral ties between the two Gulf countries and the latest regional developments.

Prince Khalid bin Faisal, the current Governor of Makkah Province, was received by upon his arrival by Kuwait’s Minister of State for Cabinet Affairs and Acting Minister of Information Sheikh Mohammed Al-Abdullah Al-Sabah.

Hours after meeting with the Saudi delegation, the Kuwaiti Emir phoned Qatari Emir Tamim Al-Thani and urged him to “exercise restraint and refrain from steps that would escalate the situation”.

“In a phone call with the Qatari Emir, (Kuwait’s Emir) hoped Sheikh Tamim would give a chance to efforts aimed at containing tension in brotherly relations among brothers,” according to a statement by Kuwait News Agency (KUNA).

Last Update: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 KSA 01:14 - GMT 22:14

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...audi-Arabia-s-King-Salman-reaches-Kuwait.html

Houthi militia leaders, Iran come to Qatar’s defense after severance of ties

Mohammad Ali al-Houthi expressed readiness to cooperate with Qatar, describing them as ‘loyal’. (File photo: AFP)
Staff writer, Al Arabiya English

Tuesday, 6 June 2017

Houthi militia leadership joined Iran in declaring their support for Qatar after several GCC states and Egypt severed ties with Doha on Monday in the latest developments of a widening rift between Qatar and its Gulf neighbors.

Mohammad Ali al-Houthi, head of the so-called Revolutionary Committee, expressed readiness to cooperate with Qatar, describing them as “loyal”.

The Arab Coalition has also announced that it has suspended Qatar’s participation in all efforts to restore the legitimate government in Yemen.

Meanwhile, Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Bahram Qassimi said that Tehran considered the use of sanctions as “an inefficient, blameworthy, rejected, and unacceptable move”.

EXPLAINER: Reasons why Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt severed ties with Qatar

General Authority of Civil Aviation (GACA) has issued a decision banning all Qatari airlines and aircraft from landing at Saudi Arabia’s airports immediately.

It has also been estimated that Qatar stands to lose 82 percent of its Gulf imports due to closing of the borders and economic sanctions. Qatar relies heavily on the Gulf countries in its trade and imports, especially with Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

However, the Association of Iranian Agricultural Exporters announced that it would be ready to supply Qatar with food products and other needs.

Last Update: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 KSA 01:55 - GMT 22:55

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-Qatar-s-defense-after-severance-of-ties.html

No surprise that the Houthi terrorist cultists and the Iranian Mullah's are trying to give olive branches to Qatar, however will Qatar be suicidal enough to bite the bait? Very little points to this. If Tamim takes the bite we should finish him off as we finished his father off, Gaddafi and other barking clowns that tried to stir trouble up in our lands. Whatever treachery has occurred (because everything points to that being the case) will not be forgotten as per Arab culture, in particular in the GCC. Qatar (more precisely the current regime in power) has committed a huge mistake. Trust will not come out of a sudden but real changes will have to follow as well.
The Turkish base is already there, so the Iranians don't have to "worry"!!!! When Yavuz Sultan Selim took the reign into his hands Shah Ismail receded, and peace was ensured for the next 4 centuries!!!!
 

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Hopefully such apeshit crazy women and persons are not influencing actual Qatari policy although that could explain if something has pissed us off.

@Full Moon

Time to teach that 45 year old tiny entity a lesson again and remind them of which entity they were a part of for millennia during Islamic and pre-Islamic times.

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