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Saudi Arabia's special relationship with Pakistan may be on borrowed time

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The relationship were excellent in past times, remarkable and based on religion, brotherhood and mutual trust.
Time passed and our fool politicians pushes these relation to the corner where our so called leaderships start milking KSA for their personal financial interests/gains and in return accepted all legal/illegal conditions or strings and hence transformed the relations to master/slave level.
Now we want the relations back to the old times but now it is too late. KSA leadership is now in hands of 'generation next' and only looking for financial/political gains and to maintain the leadership role in OIC.
The split in leadership role for Islamic countries is a writing on the wall. These countries will be further weaken and more vulnerable.
Some blocks even depend on those countries who will harm them more than save - milking opportunities will take shift to anti-Islamic countries but those blocks will consider that as gain - time will tell that it was a gain or loss.
We live in interesting times. We must change our thinking to compensate. From clearly theoretical perspective and ignoring the current geopolitical realities, Islamic nations are actually in a time were joining up into a larger bloc makes more sense then ever. The new cold war with the dollar future status in question. Plus the fact that bulk of the worlds future population growth will come largely from Muslim regions. Population growth is one factor in potential economic growth (combined with human development, technology and finance). One can argue if managed correctly, that the future economic growth potential of the Islamic world 100 to 200 years out as a whole is better than Europe, North America, East Asia or India's (as these regions with go into demographic decline over the same period). Not sure that OIC is willing to take any actions on a broader economic pact? If not a new bloc is needed.
 
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Turkey is nothing but a puppet of Saudis indirectly controlled by Qatar. Entire Turkish economy is sustained because of Qatari investment. To show the world good-cop and bad-cop method, Saudis are pretending to have a rift with Qatar whereas it is not the case in reality.

Without the oil money, Turkey would have been bankrupted by USA sanctions. Remember when Erdogan cried "We have your dollar, we have our allah"? It was Arab oil money via Qatar that was channeled to help Turkey after that and Turkey economy started stabilising.

Saudi Arabia is the de facto Caliph with only Iran being in contention. All other Islamic countries listen to Saudi Arabian words
Hilarious. Evidently, Turkey really really angers Indians, to the point that such fabulous yarns are spun.
 

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Realy? Then why Jamal Khashoggi entered Saudi Embassy in all this trouble to kill while the Turkey?
Jamal Kashoggi was a personal friend of Erdogan and was once a friend of the Royal family. But he cut his ties with KSA Royal family and fled to Turkey. Of course, Turkey is not completely enslaved by Arabs, but is still dependent on Arab oil money. So,the situation is not like Sisi of Egypt
 

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The relationship were excellent in past times, remarkable and based on religion, brotherhood and mutual trust.
Time passed and our fool politicians pushes these relation to the corner where our so called leaderships start milking KSA for their personal financial interests/gains and in return accepted all legal/illegal conditions or strings and hence transformed the relations to master/slave level.
Now we want the relations back to the old times but now it is too late. KSA leadership is now in hands of 'generation next' and only looking for financial/political gains and to maintain the leadership role in OIC.
The split in leadership role for Islamic countries is a writing on the wall. These countries will be further weaken and more vulnerable.
Some blocks even depend on those countries who will harm them more than save - milking opportunities will take shift to anti-Islamic countries but those blocks will consider that as gain - time will tell that it was a gain or loss.
i wish we stay neutral at the time of mess sir . no matter what is the price we must stay neutral .
 

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i wish we stay neutral at the time of mess sir . no matter what is the price we must stay neutral .
Sir G, very much agreed ... no unnecessary reaction or over reaction.
Further IMO, it is good time for Pakistan to take more independent decisions in Pakistan's interest.
 

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Sir G, very much agreed ... no unnecessary reaction or over reaction.
Further IMO, it is good time for Pakistan to take more independent decisions in Pakistan's interest.
SMQ make a stupidity and create useless mess .OIC is dead horse and he is dying for OIC meeting like after meeting kashmir will be free . i did not understand this stupidity at all . even if OIC have daily meeting 365 days continue it can not save a single kashmiri life . then why ?

we must stay mum and neutral always our vote must be for pakistan
 

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We live in interesting times. We must change our thinking to compensate. From clearly theoretical perspective and ignoring the current geopolitical realities, Islamic nations are actually in a time were joining up into a larger bloc makes more sense then ever. The new cold war with the dollar future status in question. Plus the fact that bulk of the worlds future population growth will come largely from Muslim regions. Population growth is one factor in potential economic growth (combined with human development, technology and finance). One can argue if managed correctly, that the future economic growth potential of the Islamic world 100 to 200 years out as a whole is better than Europe, North America, East Asia or India's (as these regions with go into demographic decline over the same period). Not sure that OIC is willing to take any actions on a broader economic pact? If not a new bloc is needed.
Exactly your analysis appeals, now the ball is in the court of leadership of OIC countries, if they are so visionary and could turn the tide in their favour - UNITY, FAITH & DISCIPLINE. Are not these the key points?
 

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Exactly your analysis appeals, now the ball is in the court of leadership of OIC countries, if they are so visionary and could turn the tide in their favour - UNITY, FAITH & DISCIPLINE. Are not these the key points?
OIC ????????? UAE gone with israel and many more will too . OIC is dead already sir . its waste of time only . you still think OIC can do a jack ? last 50 years what have been dne by OIC ? indian fascist terror mata even enjoyed a day on OIC

do we leave OIC the day when they invite israel ?
 

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Sir G, that's why in West it is known as Organization of Incompetent Countries.


Indeed, Pakistan's interest to be priorities.
then why SMQ take risk so much for a useless summit ? i am still failed to understand . even a declaration signed by all OIC head of states to india it will not stop indian gov to kill kashmiris for 3 days .
 

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OIC ????????? UAE gone with israel and many more will too . OIC is dead already sir . its waste of time only . you still think OIC can do a jack ? last 50 years what have been dne by OIC ? indian fascist terror mata even enjoyed a day on OIC

do we leave OIC the day when they invite israel ?
Sir G that's why I say Unity and Vision ... ! If they wake up to that call. Vision and self-confidence could bring miracle of change.
 

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Sir G that's why I say Unity and Vision ... ! If they wake up to that call. Vision and self-confidence could bring miracle of change.
most of them actually bombing each other sir . :D just watch last three days news :p:close_tema: we are on wrong place and wrong time . we better worry in home and forget them just leave them alone they can go kill each other and the last one remain will be leader :enjoy:
 

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then why SMQ take risk so much for a useless summit ? i am still failed to understand . even a declaration signed by all OIC head of states to india it will not stop indian gov to kill kashmiris for 3 days .
Sir G vision is not a property but ALLAH SWT gifted trait for humanity. Alas ... Pakistani leaders usually lacks it - they are leader by families.
 

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most of them actually bombing each other sir . :D just watch last three days news :p:close_tema: we are on wrong place and wrong time . we better worry in home and forget them just leave them alone they can go kill each other and the last one remain will be leader :enjoy:
That is the disunity which I am mentioning - killing is not good among humanity and I hate it until it is in aggression against your country/religion than participate with full zeal.
 

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