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Saudi Arabia shows interest to produce South Korean BiHo II 8x8 air defense system

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Citing the Tactical Report website, Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) signed in June 2019 a Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) with South Korean conglomerate Hanwha Group to explore the formation of a joint venture company (JVC) in Saudi Arabia to be called SAMI-Hanwha Munitions Systems.

According to other open sources information, it was announced in February 2021, that Saudi Arabia’s Science Technology has partnered with South Korea’s Hanwha Defense to jointly produce new K30 Biho (Flying Tiger) II air defense systems (ADS) mounted on tracked chassis. A hybrid Biho ADS has already completed foreign trials in Saudi Arabia.

In line with Vision 2030, Saudi Arabia’s trailblazing plan to diversify its economy and move away from hydrocarbons, the country has committed to localizing 50% of military expenditure – with experts predicting a subsequent boom in the domestic defense sector over the next decade.

In support of this goal, the Kingdom recently announced an investment in excess of $20 billion in the military industry, a large portion of which will be directed towards research and development. Meanwhile, a raft of joint venture agreements have been signed with international firms to produce technologies in-country and transfer knowledge to the young, ambitious local population.

in December 2018, Army Recognition has reported that South Korean Company Hanwha unveils a scale model of its new BiHo II mobile air defense system based on the 8x8 wheeled chassis of the Tigon armored vehicle.

The BiHo II is fitted with an unmanned turret that can be armed with one 30 or 40mm cannon able to fire airburst ammunition, a new type of tactical anti-personnel explosive ammunition that detonates in midair, causing air burst effect fragment damage to an enemy. The vehicle has a crew of three including a driver, commander, and gunner.

 

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Honestly cannon AA platform aren't that effective, even with airburst munitions. Only for point defense in air defense terms, but that leaves very short engagement opportunity for high velocity targets and those systems cannot engage multiple targets at once, also their accuracy is decent at best.

Missile systems are a better concept, laser systems combined with missile systems are the future.
 

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Honestly cannon AA platform aren't that effective, even with airburst munitions. Only for point defense in air defense terms, but that leaves very short engagement opportunity for high velocity targets and those systems cannot engage multiple targets at once, also their accuracy is decent at best.

Missile systems are a better concept, laser systems combined with missile systems are the future.
You have to have mix of everything in order to create a robust network everywhere hence this is not laser system but it is effective against drones and helicopters. This is different concept as you can see in the video..

 
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Honestly cannon AA platform aren't that effective, even with airburst munitions. Only for point defense in air defense terms, but that leaves very short engagement opportunity for high velocity targets and those systems cannot engage multiple targets at once, also their accuracy is decent at best.

Missile systems are a better concept, laser systems combined with missile systems are the future.

KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airbust munition very effective against Cruise Missiles and Drones to protect strategic facilities

3 x KORKUT SPAAGs are in one System ... also we can put 4 x SUNGUR air defense missiles on KORKUT SPAAG to work together with 2 x 35mm barrels
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Turkey to use KORKUT SPAAG + HISAR AD Missile + LASER System combined with networked Radar System
 
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KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airbust munition very effective against Cruise Missiles and Drones to protect strategic facilities

3 x KORKUT SPAAGs are in one System ... also we can put 4 x SUNGUR air defense missiles on KORKUT SPAAG to work together with 2 x 35mm barrels
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Turkey to use KORKUT SPAAG + HISAR AD Missile + LASER System combined with networked Radar System
Who triggered the word turkey here?
 

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KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airbust munition very effective against Cruise Missiles and Drones to protect strategic facilities

3 x KORKUT SPAAGs are in one System ... also we can put 4 x SUNGUR air defense missiles on KORKUT SPAAG to work together with 2 x 35mm barrels
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Turkey to use KORKUT SPAAG + HISAR AD Missile + LASER System combined with networked Radar System
The cannon effective as long as the system is manned, on alert and very close to the target, and even then, a low powered radar could be easily overwhelmed by EW.

It is evident such systems, in example the Pantsir, especially if not completely automated, aren't particularly effective against drones and missiles and could be easily overwhelmed.
 

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The cannon effective as long as the system is manned, on alert and very close to the target, and even then, a low powered radar could be easily overwhelmed by EW.

KORKUT SPAAG has 70 km 3D Radar to detect Cruise Missiles or Kamikaze Drones
also Electro-optical target detection and tracking with Advanced Air Defense fire control algorithms

and 35mm airbust munition with range of 4 km ..... and can fire 2,200 rounds a minute

KORKUT unit is made up of 3 SPAAGs and a Command Vehicle
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there is also Naval variant GOKDENIZ CIWS 35mm airbust munition to intercept anti-ship Missiles
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KORKUT SPAAG has 70 km 3D Radar to detect Cruise Missiles or Kamikaze Drones
also Electro-optical target detection and tracking with Advanced Air Defense fire control algorithms

and 35mm airbust munition with range of 4 km ..... and can fire 2,200 rounds a minute

KORKUT unit is made up of 3 SPAAGs and a Command Vehicle
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there is also Naval variant GOKDENIZ CIWS 35mm airbust munition to intercept anti-ship Missiles
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How good can it resist jamming? It looks good. It could counter drones effectively.. The critical part will be good jamming resistance for it's 3D radar
 

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KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airbust munition very effective against Cruise Missiles and Drones to protect strategic facilities

3 x KORKUT SPAAGs are in one System ... also we can put 4 x SUNGUR air defense missiles on KORKUT SPAAG to work together with 2 x 35mm barrels
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Turkey to use KORKUT SPAAG + HISAR AD Missile + LASER System combined with networked Radar System
Congratulations, interesting but who ask it?!
The cannon effective as long as the system is manned, on alert and very close to the target, and even then, a low powered radar could be easily overwhelmed by EW.

It is evident such systems, in example the Pantsir, especially if not completely automated, aren't particularly effective against drones and missiles and could be easily overwhelmed.
Bullets still are effective
 

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Honestly cannon AA platform aren't that effective, even with airburst munitions. Only for point defense in air defense terms, but that leaves very short engagement opportunity for high velocity targets and those systems cannot engage multiple targets at once, also their accuracy is decent at best.

Missile systems are a better concept, laser systems combined with missile systems are the future.
Does Israel ever peruse such systems? reason I asked was because Israel often intercept rockets for which they have very little time so would such systems be better if we can assume that their accuracy is good/decent.
 

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Does Israel ever peruse such systems? reason I asked was because Israel often intercept rockets for which they have very little time so would such systems be better if we can assume that their accuracy is good/decent.
Israel has decent air defense systems in Iron dome but it is breachable and can be bypassed as we have seen.. Practically speaking not theoretically Saudi Arabia has the world's best air defense system as in practical proven. Not many layman are aware of this and it is due to the fact of them having multiple layered air defense systems that supplement each other great.. Still it can get bypassed on occasions because the air defense system engineering field in it's entirety has not reached peak yet and there are few more decades before we get there but currently speaking KSA has the world's best air defense system it is much more robust and capable then Israel's with margin.. But Layman will tell you but but George soros owns the sky and the milkeway galaxy conspiracy.... just no mann we talking strictly practical terms in the operational level of engaging direct incoming targets as in the realistic world
 
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Does Israel ever peruse such systems? reason I asked was because Israel often intercept rockets for which they have very little time so would such systems be better if we can assume that their accuracy is good/decent.
Cannon systems? Not at all. That's not the correct way.

For missile systems the answer is obvious, Iron Dome, Barak 8, Davids Sling, Arrow 2&3 are all pretty much the best in the world for solving the problems they intend to solve.

For laser systems - yes.
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It's called the Iron Beam for the ground based version.
Prototypes exist, it should be in its design ending phase by now.
 

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Israel has decent air defense systems in Iron dome but it is breachable and can be bypassed as we have seen.. Practically speaking not theoretically Saudi Arabia has the world's best air defense system as in practical proven. Not many layman are aware of this and it is due to the fact of them having multiple layered air defense systems that supplement each other great.. Still it can get bypassed on occasions because the air defense system engineering field in it's entirety has not reached peak yet and there are few more decades before we get there but currently speaking KSA has the world's best air defense system it is much more robust and capable then Israel's with margin.. But Layman will tell you but but George soros owns the sky and the milkeway galaxy conspiracy.... just no mann we talking strictly practical terms in the operational level of engaging direct incoming targets as in the realistic world
That's complete non sense, Saudi Arabia was struck by Iran when Aramco was attacked and Saudi Arabia couldn't do anything to prevent it. Following that, Saudi Arabia wanted to purchase the Iron Dome.

Saudi Arabia has patriots, which is the best their money could buy against ballistic missiles, but Davids Sling was not offered to them.

Also, they have no way to efficiently intercept smaller rockets and drones, which the Iron Dome intends to do.

Lastly, Saudi Arabia is large, thus it has to spread its air defenses. Israel on the other hand has so many air defenses concentrated in such a small piece of land it would be a suicide to try and air strike Israel.
 

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That's complete non sense, Saudi Arabia was struck by Iran when Aramco was attacked and Saudi Arabia couldn't do anything to prevent it. Following that, Saudi Arabia wanted to purchase the Iron Dome.

Saudi Arabia has patriots, which is the best their money could buy against ballistic missiles, but Davids Sling was not offered to them.

Also, they have no way to efficiently intercept smaller rockets and drones, which the Iron Dome intends to do.

Lastly, Saudi Arabia is large, thus it has to spread its air defenses. Israel on the other hand has so many air defenses concentrated in such a small piece of land it would be a suicide to try and air strike Israel.
This was a very patriotic post not factual at all.. I didn't say only patriot but multi-layered they have like 10-12 systems bunched together..

KSA didn't enforce that area and didn't even expect that when these non-state actors send in the drones.

In the last 11-days war the Israelis were living in shelters and Hamas was finding great success and almost hitting anywhere at will confusing the Iron dome and the Israel systems completely. They have learned ways to bypass it.

In KSA life is normal even in border areas... Due to effective interception and having a great network.. But in Israel's case there is not even comparison the whole country was in shelters..

Even military officials agree with my take because it is based on 100% practical ground reality
 
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Cannon systems? Not at all. That's not the correct way.
For missile systems the answer is obvious, Iron Dome, Barak 8, Davids Sling, Arrow 2&3 are all pretty much the best in the world for solving the problems they intend to solve.

Saudi Arabia has patriots, which is the best their money could buy against ballistic missiles, but Davids Sling was not offered to them.


S.Arabia needs layered Air Defense Umbrella to intercept Kamikaze Drones , Cruise and Ballistic Missiles

KORKUT SPAAG with 35 mm airburst munition to intercept Kamikaze Drones
SUNGUR AD System to intercept Kamikaze Drones
HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System to intercept Kamikaze Drones and Cruise Missiles
HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles
PATRIOT PAC-III to intercept Ballistic Missiles


Turkish KORKUT SPAAG , SUNGUR and HISAR-A , HISAR-O would intercept İranian Cruise Missile and Kamikaze Drone attacks on ARAMCO oil facilities

SUNGUR

HISAR-A

HISAR-O
 
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