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SAM system based on Nasr missile

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  1. RAMPAGE

    RAMPAGE SENIOR MEMBER

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    I was thinking if it would be possible to develop Nasr into a SAM.

    Will it need a new motor because it has to be more manueverable?
     
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    A good idea:) Lets see what other members especially the senior ones say?
    @Horus
     
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    it needs hell of things to convert it into SAM.. same as building a new one...
     
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    It is a good idea. Funds shouldn't be a probable. We have the expertise. So what's stopping us?
     
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    i know this idea came when you see NASR launchers are like patriots :D
     
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    Elaborate please.
    Also i believe certain BVRAAMs can also be used as SAMs at the cost of reduction in range though.

    @Oscar Please leave a comment here.
     
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    The only thing we could use in making Nasr a SAM would be the casing and even that would require a number of upgrades. A tactical missile launched from a MBRL platform and a SAM are two completely different ball games all together. Everything from the inertial guidance system to the navigational aid, chaser, motor, casing, fins, stabilization system would need to be added a new.
     
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    Yeah, we can hire Russian experts' help to modify our NASR launchers, how about joint-cooperation with Russia? :drag:
     
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    tracking, guidance and target acquisition system.. it is very sophisticated and expensive technology. we have capability to develop 3rd generation SAMs but not 4th or 5th generation..
     
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    I agree complete instrumentation and motor overhaul.

    Aren't there SAM's in Pakistan's inventory of the same range?

    I thought raison d' etre for Nasr was as a tactical nuke - this would serve no purpose for a SAM. May be i was wrong. Can you further elaborate on this.
     
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    Yes this is a good idea. The Russians are trying to become closer to us. It's time we take an initiative.
     
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    Indeed. I am aware but what i want to know is why a new motor would be required when we want to retain the thrust. Does it has something to do with the jet vanes?
     
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    Yes it is, and that is the reason why the NASR system has very little cross over potential into other projects. Its just an innocent question by one of the members.
     
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    Beshak janab. :D
     
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    Well for starters, the motor will have to be able to work past only a parabolic trajectory and instead be able to give chase to an aircraft at Mach 3-5 for anywhere from 30 to 50 seconds while constantly maneuvering to keep the aircraft on its 12. Its a massive ask of a platform that was meant to follow a predetermined trajectory to a stationary or slow moving (sub-100kmph) target.
     
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