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Sack of Constantinople 1204 - Fourth Crusade

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  1. dexter

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    In our new animated historical documentary, we will describe the Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople in 1204. Although the First Crusade was succeeded in taking Jerusalem and a number of Frankish kingdoms were created in the Levant, by 1187 the Ayyubid leader Saladin managed to reconquer most of the region. The Third Crusade launched by the English king Richard I Lionheart, French king Philip II Augustus and German emperor Frederick I Barbarossa wasn't able to take Jerusalem, so the pope called for the Fourth Crusade led by Enrico Dandolo, Boniface of Montferrat and Baldwin of Flanders, which indeed up in one of the biggest tragedies for the Christian world.

    This event pretty much sums up what crusades were really for, the crusaders showed their true colours and they are the main reason of decline of the Byzantine Empire.
     
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    For Eastern Europeans Constantinople was a saint city, like Rome for Western Europeans. In Russia it was called Tsargorod, Tsargrad - it means Tsarcity. And the greedy scums ruined it.
     
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    Nice to know, thanks
     
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    Oh but they came to help right? That's what they say and it's only in recent history the true nature of the horror they inflicted on that city came to light.
    They did the same thing at the Siege of barbastro i.e. they inflicted horrible atrocities on the captured population after giving their vows they would not hurt the civil populace. The Spaniards were disgusted with them.
    The Franks were certainly a horrible lot, bar a few exceptions.
     
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    o_O:o::whistle: ok
     
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    i respect richard the lion heart.he was a good king.he tried everything to defeat saladin but failed.i think he offered her sister to saladin as a gift so that saladin can return jerusalem to him but saladin rejected the offer.
     
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    Richard the Lionheart featured prominent in the Third Crusade and defeated Saladin in the battlefield (the Battle of Arsuf in 1191 AD and the Battle of Jaffa in 1192 AD), but his accomplishments in the battlefield were in vain due to Western political instability; Richard had no choice but to forfeit his campaign in the Middle East and return to England because his own brother was planning to unseat him from the throne in his absence. However, bad luck caught up to him as a major storm wrecked his ship and he was forced to try to reach England on foot, but he was imprisoned by Duke of Austria Leopold V initially and the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI subsequently. During the course of his captivity, Richard felt abandoned by his people and was no longer eager for crusades.

    Richard reportedly entertained the notion of his sister's marriage to Saladin's brother al-Adil (not to Saladin actually), but the CONTEXT of this account is in dispute (some argue that this was a ploy to create a rift between Saladin and his brother). Saladin's brother reportedly accepted the proposal but the marriage did not materialize due to refusal of Richard's sister.
     
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    yes but he wanted jerusalem but saladin managed to hold on.yes i read about richard the lion heart.good king.
     
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    Of course, when Richard left for England, Saladin finally had the opening to capture Jerusalem.
     
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    Good king?? He was an asshole! Killed Muslims civilians when he took over the forts ... read before praising an asshole ..

    http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lionheart.htm
     
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    actually third crusade objective was to capture jerusalem from ayyubids saladin.they managed to capture some cities but not jerusalem.i think muslims lost jerusalem in sixth crusade.

    i don't know much about him but i know about saladin and richard relation.that was based on mutual respect.
     
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    That is what the Byzantines believed, and it is said the Byzantines would prefer Islamic rule to Frankish rule after the 4th crusade.

    The Franks destroyed the Western Roman Empire. The Franks vilified anything Roman. To be free was to be a Frank (franchise), and to be Roman was to be a villain (live at the Roman Villa). (Then the Franks destroyed the Eastern Roman Empire too.) Franks are a disgusting lot, their hatred has not changed much.

    God Bless the Algerians and Tunisians for being free.

    Us Greeks will never forget what they did to us.

    Under Clovis they were tolerable.
     
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    Tsargrad- Carigrad , literal translation to English would be Caesars-city or Imperial city, Tsar is simply Slavic word for Caesar (emperor).
     
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    Don't worry at all for Constantinople!!! She is in the safest hands possible, and being groomed for many more important functions for future...
     
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    Irony is Venice was established by Roman Refugees fleeing both Hunnic and Germanic.

    So basically The Venetians were sacking the city of their forefathers lmaooo
     
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