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Russian Land Forces can smash the British army

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  1. Bogeyman

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  2. Bogeyman

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    No surprise there, this is common news I think.
     
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    But conquering the British isle won't be a walk in the park.
     
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    Is it another one of those raw number comparisons?
     
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    We are an island nation and not many countries have crossed the channel to invade the UK successfully.

    Its the Germans who need to worry about Russian landforces, not the UK!!
     
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    The paper is not about defending Britain, but about challenges facing the British Army if it is engaged against Russia in Eastern Europe.
     
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    Its like USA land forces can smash the Venezuelan Army.
     
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    There was a time when lone USSR was capable of running over the whole of West Europe if not supported by the USA
     
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    Perhaps the assumption excluded NATO formations which is very much unrealistic. UK is a founding member of NATO where the defense doctrine is deeply integrated into NATO unlike Poland, Latvia etc.
     
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    Plus UK has nukes. thats a whole different angle too.
     
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    There are nuclear weapons in Russia
    Or let me ask the question. Can you use a nuclear bomb whenever you want in your hometown or nearby areas? Can you afford radioactive contamination. Using nuclear weapons in Russian territory cannot curb the Russian offensive, by the way.
     
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    NATO without the USA/Canada/Turkey would Defeat Russia if it attacked the UK or any member for that matter.

    This takes into effect if the USA sent all of it forces to fight Russia's Eastern & Central Military Districts in the Pacific/Asian Area of Operation. plus is fighting China & North Korea. while having Japan, ROK, Australia, Taiwan, Canada & New Zealand as allies. A conventional World War 3. With the most important theater being the Pacific/Asia Battle Space. Turkey Dropped out because of lack of EU membership and to focus on Dominating the ME.

    NATO doesn't have to invade Russia. Nor does the Combined US+ Allies in Pacific have to invade China to wreck either nation. an defeat their Forces. the North Korea, Belarus, Chechen Governments would likely fall in this war. Unless it a short quick war.

    NATO by it self outclasses Russia in every metric. from trained forces to equipment, military industry capabilities, economic, population, Logistics to everything.

    Russian Combined Forces that would be used in a war vs NATO at first.
    2 Military District HQ (Western/Southern)
    5 Armies HQ + 1 Deployed (Ukraine)
    3 Fleet HQ
    2 Air Force HQ
    1 Flotilla HQ
    3 indep Corps HQ
    10 Division HQ

    1 Recon Brigades (BDE) + Deployed (1 Ukraine)
    6 Tank BDEs
    21 Motorized Rifle BDEs + Reserve (2) + Deployed (2 Georgia, 1 Armenia, 1 BG Syria)
    2 Marine Infantry BDEs + Deployed (2 Ukraine)
    3 Air Assault BDEs
    6 Airborne BDEs
    39 Total Maneuver BDEs

    14 Field Artillery BDEs + 1 Deployed (Ukraine)
    3 Rocket BDEs
    16 Anti Defense Artillery BDEs + 2 Deployed (Ukraine)
    33 Combat Support BDEs

    2 Engineer BDEs
    1 Military Police BDE
    5 NBC BDEs
    2 Signal BDEs
    1 Electronic Warfare BDE
    3 railroad BDEs
    2 Logistics BDEs
    16 Combat Serve Support BDEs

    1350 Modern Tanks
    350 Capable Tanks + 80 Reserve + 447 Deployed (Georgia/Armenia/Ukraine)
    1700 Total Tanks + 10,200 Capable tanks in deep storage
    2800 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV) & APCs + Reserve (240 older models) + Deployed (790)

    61 Modern Fighter Jets + Deployed (15 Syria)
    371 Capable Fighter Jets + Deployed (42 Ukraine/Syria)
    432 Total Fighter Jets

    122 Ground Attack Jets (SU24/SU25) + Deployed (14 Syria/Ukraine)
    196 Attack Copters + Deployed (27 Syria/Ukraine)

    1 Aircraft Carrier
    2 Battle-Cruisers
    2 Missile Guided Cruisers
    9 Missile Guided Destroyers
    12 Missile Guided Frigates
    36 Corvettes
    61 Total Warships

    4 Missile Guided Nuclear Attack Subs
    12 Nuclear Attack Subs
    15 Diesel Attack Subs
    31 Total Attack Subs

    34 Mine Warfare Ships
    15 LST

    VS

    NATO
    1 Unified Command HQ
    1 Army HQ
    7 Corp HQ
    6 Air Force HQ
    6 Fleet HQ
    25 Division HQ

    16 Tank BDEs
    66 Mech Infantry BDEs
    35 Infantry BDEs
    4 Marine Infantry BDEs
    6 Air Assault BDEs
    6 Airborne BDEs
    123 Total Maneuver BDEs

    13 Field Artillery BDEs
    2 Multi Rocket BDEs
    7 Combat Aviation BDEs
    12 Anti Defense Artillery BDEs
    34 Combat Support BDEs

    8 Engineer BDEs
    11 Military Police BDE
    8 NBC BDEs
    9 Signal BDEs
    5 Electronic Warfare BDE
    7 transportation BDEs
    16 Logistics BDEs
    11 Military Intel BDEs
    8 Medical BDEs
    83 Combat Serve Support BDEs

    870 Advance Tanks
    991 Modern Tanks
    1573 Capable Tanks
    100 Poor Tanks
    838 Hopeless Tanks
    3372 Total Tanks
    13,000 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV) & APC

    32 Advance Fighter Jets
    551 Modern Fighter Jets
    880 Capable Fighter Jets
    20 Poor Fighter Jets
    77 Hopeless Fighter Jets
    1560 Total Fighter Jets

    239 Ground Attack Jets
    344 Attack Copters

    1 Nuclear Aircraft Carrier
    1 Aircraft Carrier
    2 Helicopter/STOV Carriers
    9 Amphibious Assault Ships (LHA/LHD)
    52 Guided Missile Destroyers
    2 Destroyers
    69 Guided Missile Frigates
    4 Frigates
    24 Corvettes
    164 Total Warships


    12 Nuclear Attack Subs
    45 Diesel Attack Subs
    57 Total Attack Subs

    159 Mine Warfare Ships
    18 LPD/LSD/LS/LSM
     
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  14. KungFuLee

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    Your post remind me of the game I am playing

    Conflict of Nations - World War 3

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    Our alliance of Germany, France, Sweden and UK just fought Russia yesterday lol
     
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    Germans have a relatively good working relations with Russia, but there has been growing hostility between Russia and UK in recent years as UK poke its nose in internal matters of Russia on the orders of its master the USA.