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Russian Ka-52 helicopter crashes in Syria, both pilots killed

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  1. timmy_area51

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    Russian Ka-52 helicopter crashes in Syria, both pilots killed – MoD

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    A Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter has crashed during a routine flight in eastern Syria and both of its pilots were killed in the incident, Russia’s Defense Ministry has announced.
    “A Russian Ka-52 helicopter has crashed during a routine flight over eastern regions of the Syrian Arab Republic. Both pilots were killed,” the Ministry stated.

    The remains of the pilots have been recovered by a search and rescue team and delivered to the base airfield. According to preliminary data, the crash was caused by a machine malfunction, the Russian military said.

    Ka-52 attack helicopters, also known as “Alligators,” have been used by Russian troops in Syria since 2016, providing close air support during various operations. A maritime modification of the helicopter, the Ka-52K, also briefly participated in the anti-terrorist campaign late in 2016, operating from the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov.

    The crash is the first such incident with the Ka-52 machines in Syria and the second deadly incident in a week to involve Russian Aerospace Forces. On May 3, a Su-30SM fighter jet crashed into the Mediterranean Sea off the Syrian coast, shortly after taking off from the Khmeimim airbase. Both pilots were killed in that crash. The incident was likely caused by a bird, which got sucked into plane’s engine, according to the preliminary findings.


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    I guess they had no time to eject!
     
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    Ejections can only happen from fighter jets, though. Helicopters usually have the ability to initiate a controlled "hard landing" when the helicopter becomes unflyable, unless if it crashes into something.
     
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    Ka-52 comes with ejection seats. Either it got shot down or there's something wrong with the Russian equipment
     
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    In the light of quality concerns, I'm going for the latter.
     
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    The Russians said it was a technical problem..
     
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    That's the first thing that came to my mind also, since the ejection system on the Ka-52 is supposed to work flawlessly. But I'm sure it needs time for the process to complete since the top set of rotors need to blow off first, then the lower set and then the explosive wire of the glass canopy and then the seats go flying. And I don't think they both take off at the same time since that would likely cause a collision. I'm not sure about that, though, but if it is indeed the case, then that even slows the entire process down even more, at least for the 2nd pilot's chances to eject. Also there might be a time delay between the rotors blowing off to the ejection to be sure they're cleared out of the way. Doesn't make much sense to send a pair of pilots into 6, erratically flying rotor blades!

    I'm guessing that the ejection sequence can only be successful if attempted at a certain altitude to allow for that entire sequence to take place, obviously. Otherwise it probably won't be effective if say the ejection happens while the helo is at something like 50 meters above the ground.
     
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    Always such crashes are attributed to technical problem. Well they are right if even a missile hit your vehicle it make some sort of technical problem.
    Its the usual explanation around the world.
    You simply lie while you technically told the truth.
     
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    The US lost F-16s, F-18s, helicopters and transport aircrafts over the US skies in less than a month recently.. were they shot down?
     
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    These days all the major powers are shifting to UCAV. The age of manned aerial combat is over. The future is about anti terrorism.



     
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    well in conflict area its usually technical problem