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Russian jets in Syrian skies

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  1. A.Muqeet khan

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    Russian fighter pilots are expected to begin arriving in Syria in the coming days, and will fly their Russian air force fighter jets and attack helicopters against ISIS and rebel-aligned targets within the failing state.

    According to Western diplomats, a Russian expeditionary force has already arrived in Syria and set up camp in an Assad-controlled airbase. The base is said to be in area surrounding Damascus, and will serve, for all intents and purposes, as a Russian forward operating base.





    In the coming weeks thousands of Russian military personnel are set to touch down in Syria, including advisors, instructors, logistics personnel, technical personnel, members of the aerial protection division, and the pilots who will operate the aircraft.

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    A formation of Russian Mig 31's (Photo: Reuters)



    Past reports have stated that the Russians were in talks to sell the Syrians a package of MiG-29 fighter jets, and Yak-130 trainer jets (which can also serve as attack aircraft.) The current makeup of the expeditionary force is still unknown, but there is no doubt that Russian pilots flying combat missions in Syrian skies will definitely change the existing dynamics in the Middle East.





    The Russians do not harbor offensive intentions towards Israel or other sovereign states in the area, and their main stated goal is battling ISIS and preserving Assad's rule. However, their presence will represent a challenge to the Israeli Air Force's freedom of operation in the skies above the Middle East.



    Western diplomatic sources recently reported that a series of negotiations had been held between the Russians and the Iranians, mainly focusing on ISIS and the threat it poses to the Assad regime. The infamous Iranian Quds Force commander Major General Qasem Soleimani recently visited Moscow in the framework of these talks. As a result the Russians and the Iranians reached a strategic decision: Make any effort necessary to preserve Assad's seat of power, so that Syria may act as a barrier, and prevent the spread of ISIS and Islamist backed militias into the former Soviet Islamic republics.





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    Russian Air force air craft (Photo: Reuters)




    The Russians are not the only ones coordinating their Middle East policy with the Iranians; The US has also jumped aboard that train. American government officials have been holding intensive consultations with representatives of the Iranian regime concerning a stronger joint effort against ISIS in Iraq. It seems that the US government currently views Iran as a central and necessary force in the campaign against ISIS within Iraq.



    The Iranian-American cooperation is focused on two focal points: The first being Anbar province, where the Iraqis have thus far failed to expel ISIS; and the second Mosul, where the Iraqis have yet to come up with a feasible plan to recapture the city.



    Western diplomatic sources have emphasized that the Obama administration is fully aware of the Russian intent to intervene directly in Syria, but has yet to issue any reaction. The absence of a vocal opposition from the Obama administration is compounded by its cessation of calls for the dissolution of Assad's murderous regime.



    This and more: The Iranians and the Russians- with the US well aware- have begun the struggle to reequip the Syrian army, which has been left in tatters by the civil war. They intend not only to train Assad's army, but to also equip it. During the entire duration of the civil war, the Russians have consistently sent a weapons supply ship to the Russian held port of Tartus in Syria on a weekly basis. The ships would bring missiles, replacement parts, and different types of ammunition for the Syrian army.






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    A Russian Air Force Mig 31 (Photo: Reuters)




    Arab media outlets have recently published reports that Syria and Russia were looking for an additional port on the Syrian coast, which will serve the Russians in their mission to hasten the pace of the Syrian rearmament.




    In the meantime, Assad's army is in full scale retreat in the strategic province of Idlib. Mere days ago, a force from the Jaesh Al Fatah (A coalition or rebel groups including Jabhat al-Nusra) advanced on the Abu Duhur military airfield in southwestern Syria's Iblib province, which borders on Latika. Alwaite and Christian residents of the area have fled to the last remaining Alawite Bantustans along the country's coastline.




    Even Turkey, which has so far avoided any action which would strengthen Assad, has had to come to terms with the Russian-Iranian move and the resulting American silence, leading it to launch its own bombing campaign against ISIS in Syria.

    During a recent trip to Qatar, Erdogan reached understandings with the Qataris and the Saudis regarding a program to arm Muslim Brotherhood backed rebels who are fighting against ISIS, de-facto fighting both Assad and ISIS.

    Russian jets in Syrian skies - Israel News, Ynetnews

     
  2. Falcon29

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    Is there a specific source for this? If it is true , there won't be reaction. I would like PDF members opinions on this though.
     
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    superb news if true.

    it is always telling that nato media uses the phrase "failed state" ( or in this case "failing" ) to denote those states the nato cannot control or is in the process of destroying or has already destroyed.
     
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    Better late than never. Happy hunting, boys!
     
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    If true then cold war is hot again.
     
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    Not to sound to harsh, but when has any Arab airforce with Russian jets presented a threat to Israeli air dominance?
     
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    Israel no longer has the ability to freely operate it's aircraft across Syrian Air Space.

    But don't worry, the Russians are on board to prevent ISIS from going into the CARs, and you can bet that they'll make a gentlemen's agreement not to have Russian Pilots confront the IAF as long as the IAF carry's out strikes while the Russians are 'maintaining' their planes.
     
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    hunting what ?
     
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    About time!!!I'm so glad that Russia finally step up in Syria with troops.
     
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    I don't believe Russia is concerned about CAR, their focus seems to be limited to keeping Bashar in power.
     
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    It is an excellent news. Arabs need help to sort out the mess they are in. Iranians, Chinese and Russians are willing to help Arabs to put their pieces together and as the article mentions, even the Americans and West have started to realize this and are allowing coordination with Iran on this matter.
     
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    The news isn't true, regarding advisers and troops, it is known that Russian, Iranian, Lebanese, Iraqi, Afghani, European, Americans and Kurds are fighting alongside each other. America didn't 'start to realize' anything, they always had joint interests with Iran in the region. The decades old barking wasn't fooling anyone. Americans are fighting alongside/aiding Shia militias in Iraq. In Yemen they supported Iran's positions but Saudi Arabia intervened. Arabs don't need nothing, 10% minority in Arab world don't represent Arabs, they actively acknowledging having Iranian roots and being loyal to Iran. They aren't Arabs. Arabs won't be scared away by alliance of USA-Iran-Russia.
     
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    Wow. So much hate and so huge a conspiracy theory in just one paragraph. But then, this is exactly demonstrative of another reason why Arabs are in such a mess in the first place. Hate, conspiracy theories, tales of self praise and fake glory and the puffed up balloons of baloney of Arab "power".

    Or in short, in reply to your comment: whatever!
     
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    Stop trying to put on two different realities. In your own post, you acknowledged Iranian-Western coordination. West and Iranians don't need to make alliance out loud. Political analysts are well aware of the mutual interests in the Arab world. Openly boasting about it will not occur as it will harm both Western and Iranian interests in the region. Iran's regional agenda won't have credibility if that happens. And West understands that.
     
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    Islamists.