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Pro-Kremlin separatists in Ukraine on Tuesday confirmed the death of another Russian general during Moscow’s military campaign in the country.


The death of Kutuzov was reported earlier by a war correspondent for Russian state TV but has not been confirmed by officials in Moscow.


The leader of Ukraine’s pro-Russian separatists, Denis Pushilin, expressed his “sincere condolences to the family and friends” of Major General Roman Kutuzov “who showed by example how to serve the fatherland.”


“As long as our generals fight shoulder to shoulder with soldiers, our country and our nation will be invincible,” Pushilin said on the Telegram messenger, posting a black and white photo of Kutuzov.


The announcement comes as Russian forces and their separatist allies are carrying out a major assault on Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, with fierce fighting taking place for the city of Severodonetsk.


Since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, Ukraine’s forces claimed to have killed several of Russia’s top brass but their exact number is not known as Moscow infrequently communicates its losses.


In late March, hundreds gathered in Russia-annexed Crimea for the funeral of Andrei Paliy, the deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, who died in combat near Ukraine’s port city of Mariupol.


In April, a funeral for Major General Vladimir Frolov was held in Russia’s second city, Saint Petersburg, with local authorities confirming that he met a “heroic death” in Ukraine.


Another one leaving the Ukrainian land in a trashbag

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These guys lead from the front.
Which is stupid.

The Chain of Command Structure exist for a reason, you can replace a frontline soldier with ease (Still it's not that easy), but you cannot replace a General Officer with 30 years + experience that easy.

Stop poeticising war and think General Lead from the front is romantic when it is stupid, any Staff Officer would have advised against a general to go into hot zone, I know that because I was a Staff officer myself.
 

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Which is stupid.

The Chain of Command Structure exist for a reason, you can replace a frontline soldier with ease (Still it's not that easy), but you cannot replace a General Officer with 30 years + experience that easy.

Stop poeticising war and think General Lead from the front is romantic when it is stupid, any Staff Officer would have advised against a general to go into hot zone, I know that because I was a Staff officer myself.
True. Russia tactic is not much different from WW2

While, the advanced technology can do multi-source information fusion. A high ranking general is a much more valuable asset than a frontline soldier (sad to say so, but this is fact) .

A high ranking general is a decision maker, not a scout. His right decision can save thousands of lives, a wrong decision will kill thousands. He should stay in a safe place, and focus on making the right decisions.
 
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Which is stupid.

The Chain of Command Structure exist for a reason, you can replace a frontline soldier with ease (Still it's not that easy), but you cannot replace a General Officer with 30 years + experience that easy.

Stop poeticising war and think General Lead from the front is romantic when it is stupid, any Staff Officer would have advised against a general to go into hot zone, I know that because I was a Staff officer myself.
I read somewhere that Russian doctrine does not decentralize command authority to junior officers. So their generals have to move to the front. Apparently, there are many of them around :undecided:
 

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Which is stupid.

The Chain of Command Structure exist for a reason, you can replace a frontline soldier with ease (Still it's not that easy), but you cannot replace a General Officer with 30 years + experience that easy.

Stop poeticising war and think General Lead from the front is romantic when it is stupid, any Staff Officer would have advised against a general to go into hot zone, I know that because I was a Staff officer myself.
You want a balance, you don’t just want pencil pushers calling all the shots like in America either. A general who has no skin in the game and is removed from actual on the ground conditions will end up setting unrealistic expectations. The pull out from Afghanistan is a perfect example of this. Pencil pushers overriding men with actual battle experience.
 

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Pro-Kremlin separatists in Ukraine on Tuesday confirmed the death of another Russian general during Moscow’s military campaign in the country.


The death of Kutuzov was reported earlier by a war correspondent for Russian state TV but has not been confirmed by officials in Moscow.


The leader of Ukraine’s pro-Russian separatists, Denis Pushilin, expressed his “sincere condolences to the family and friends” of Major General Roman Kutuzov “who showed by example how to serve the fatherland.”


“As long as our generals fight shoulder to shoulder with soldiers, our country and our nation will be invincible,” Pushilin said on the Telegram messenger, posting a black and white photo of Kutuzov.


The announcement comes as Russian forces and their separatist allies are carrying out a major assault on Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, with fierce fighting taking place for the city of Severodonetsk.


Since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, Ukraine’s forces claimed to have killed several of Russia’s top brass but their exact number is not known as Moscow infrequently communicates its losses.


In late March, hundreds gathered in Russia-annexed Crimea for the funeral of Andrei Paliy, the deputy commander of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, who died in combat near Ukraine’s port city of Mariupol.


In April, a funeral for Major General Vladimir Frolov was held in Russia’s second city, Saint Petersburg, with local authorities confirming that he met a “heroic death” in Ukraine.


Another one leaving the Ukrainian land in a trashbag

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Looking at Ukraine, is like watching the second world war tactics.
Russians are using the same soviet style tactics
and I am surprised why ?

Which is stupid.

The Chain of Command Structure exist for a reason, you can replace a frontline soldier with ease (Still it's not that easy), but you cannot replace a General Officer with 30 years + experience that easy.

Stop poeticising war and think General Lead from the front is romantic when it is stupid, any Staff Officer would have advised against a general to go into hot zone, I know that because I was a Staff officer myself.

I read somewhere that Russian doctrine does not decentralize command authority to junior officers. So their generals have to move to the front. Apparently, there are many of them around :undecided:
See what @jhungary said ?
A general is someone who is suppose to make and own the strategy,
formation level, and battle level decisions are left to the lower ranks as those are tactical in nature.

It takes decades of training and polishing to make a general, and it's nothing short of stupid
to expose and then loose the generals in silly battles.
When you loose generals, you loose the overall strategy and the win criteria,
 

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I read somewhere that Russian doctrine does not decentralize command authority to junior officers. So their generals have to move to the front. Apparently, there are many of them around :undecided:
You probably had read it from me here, I said that when I response to @Viet post about why Russia do not have an NCO corps and why NCO is important for modern army.

Russia doctrine traditionally do not believe in multiple leadership. Every decision is thru a centralised system (Either a Military Committee or a Political Committee) The way Russia manage battlefield is for Officer of all rank micromanage their own battle. That is true since Zhukov roll into Germany in WW2, this is true today.

When you see General in the field, which mean the top down command has broken down and either a general is needed to show authority (like junior officer refused to follow order) or the general himself does not like the situation at hand (like Junior Officer losing battlefield control.) Either way, it is bad for business to have a general in the field.

You want a balance, you don’t just want pencil pushers calling all the shots like in America either. A general who has no skin in the game and is removed from actual on the ground conditions will end up setting unrealistic expectations. The pull out from Afghanistan is a perfect example of this. Pencil pushers overriding men with actual battle experience.
Well, as the old saying goes, you don't get to command troop by accident. I have had A LOT incompetent Junior Officer I had served with when I was a Captain. And that's where you get your combat experience from, or in the field, we said "Cut the teeth".

If you are at the rank of general, you should already had enough frontline battlefield experience to know what's going on. AS I said, I was a staff officer, however, I was also in charge of a Platoon of Soldier when I was a butter bar, and then a Platoon of I&R soldier when I was a 1LT, that's where I "Deflowered" (Cannot use the other word or I will probably gonna get banned) and as a General, you would be "deflowered" when you are a junior officer, everyone commanded troop some point in their life. So if you are already risen thru the rank General, you should have 6-10 years of actual leadership experience (I would not say combat experience because not everyone have, I only have 2 years of combat experience myself)

There is a different between you put a general who had no experience leading troop in charge, and put a general to go to the forefront and take charge of a battle. The first one is never going to happened. And the second one SHOULD NOT ever happen.
 
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