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Russia to Turkey: While you’re at it, would you like some jets?

Discussion in 'Turkish Defence Forum' started by The Ronin, Jul 19, 2019.

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  1. Jul 19, 2019 #1
    The Ronin

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    MOSCOW — Russia is prepared to sell Turkey some of its most advanced fighter jets, Rostec CEO Sergei Chemezov said.

    The possible sale comes after the U.S. booted its NATO ally from the F-35 fighter jet program in response to Ankara’s purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems.

    The U.S. decision was the culmination of two years of growing tension with Turkey, which launched efforts to to purchase four S-400 batteries in 2017. At various times, Washington suggested Turkey could face sanctions for purchasing Russian defense hardware.

    In an official Rostec statement released Thursday, Chemezov was quoted as saying Russia is prepared to help Turkey procure advanced fighter jets. But the jets on offer are hardly an analogue of the stealthy F-35. Rather, Chemezov is offering up the Su-35, a heavily souped-up version of the Su-27.

    "If our Turkish colleagues express a desire, we are ready to work out the deliveries of Su-35 fighter jets," Chemezov said.

    The Su-35 is a heavy multirole fighter jet and has recently become a popular export item. One of the jet’s standout features is extreme maneuverability. There are several videos online of Su-35s performing the demanding and impressive Pugachev’s Cobra maneuver.


    The jet had its combat debut in Syria in early 2016 to beef up escorts of Russian Su-24 and Su-34 fighter-bombers deployed in the conflict there. It was, ironically, part of Moscow’s message to Ankara after Turkish air defenses shot down a Russian Su-24 in November 2015.

    The Su-35 is not a stealth fighter, like Russia’s developmental Su-57. The Su-57 project is years behind schedule, and expectations have been downgraded several times in recent years. The Russian Air Force has focused on more Su-35 procurements while delaying the Su-57.

    https://www.defensenews.com/industr...2ScQW-v8_cgK7dHgcxnQp52KNVwiZhuPpVdr1L1zcCbJo
     
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    AUz

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    Turkey should go for Su-57 with ToT that will help Turkey in its TFX program as well.

    But Russians won't be offering it, I am sure.
     
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    Su 35 and su 57 are hige aircraft twin engined heavy aircraft. Nato pakistan israel don't fly super heavies.
     
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    Beny Karachun

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    We do use F-15s
     
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    Killuminati

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    Its better if Turkey looks at the European market for an alternative fighter.
     
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    Kamil_baku

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    Su-35 with Turkish sub systems and aesa radar would be overkill.. but NATO will deffinitely go against it.. thats why i dont give a chance to it..
     
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    WarKa DaNG

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    Should buy it
     
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    Bismarck

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    You cant integrate Russian hardware on your warfare network.
     
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    Kamil_baku

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    what do you mean? you better speak german, ill google translate :P
     
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    maverick1977

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    is turkey eventually moving out of NATO ? if so are they going SOLO or creating a new alliance
     
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    CAN_TR

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    Moving NOW out of NATO would be the biggest mistake we could do, everything would change in a bad way especially disputes with Greece, E.Mediterranean, Middle East and N.Africa.

    If they act now against us, imagine what they would do when we are out.
     
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    Bismarck

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    Turkish hardware can interoperate with each other, because of C4 and diverse data links for example. Satallite with, ships, UAV, groundstation, jets...but not with a non western or NATO system. It will be a stand alone system like S-400.
     
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    Kamil_baku

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    not true.. Russian electronics are very bad, thats the reason Russian jet loosing against the western ones.. if Turkey upgrade it for third country, Russia can start exporting a lot...
    but, western countries could take it as example and ban certain technologies to Turkey too
     
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    Russian electronics are so bad, that Russia export more military hardware, electronics and jets than any Western nation except US.
     
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    if russia shot down more israeli jet in syria everybody will shut up! #bestway
     
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