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  1. Lankan Ranger

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    Russia on MIG-35

    Russia’s MiG-35 fighter jet faces an uncertain future after missing out on a lucrative contract with India.

    The Asian country, which has long been a major trading partner for the Russian defence sector, had planned the biggest arms contract of the century, ordering 126 mid-range multipurpose fighters at a cost of more than $10 billion.

    But the MiG bid was shot down by the French Rafale and the Typhoon Eurofighter, built by an Italian-British consortium.

    And apart from the immediate loss of business, the news provokes fears that the Russian jet might now be a hard sell elsewhere in the world.

    Unfounded confidence

    Russia had good grounds to believe the MiG-35 would win the contract, Kommersant reported.

    Analysts at home and in India pointed to competitive prices and proven combat experience, while Moscow had sold Delhi the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier and leased a nuclear submarine to the Indian navy in recent years.

    Indeed, Russia was so confident that the MiG-35 would triumph that it did not send representatives to the Aero India 2011 airshow in Bangalore.

    But on Thursday night Rosoboronexport, Russia’s military export company, received an official rebuff from India’s defence ministry, with a detailed 14-point breakdown of the flaws in the offer.

    Fighter project grounded?

    The knock-on effects could go far beyond merely the loss of one contract: landing the India deal would have kept the jet’s price tag down, enabling Russia’s Defence Ministry to buy up to 100 fighters on the (relatively) cheap.

    However, that contract has not been signed, and if missing the Indian money pushes the plane’s price up it could force military bosses to reconsider.

    Technology analyst Konstantin Makiyenko told Vedomosti that the blow might even see MiG forced into a merger with Sukhoi, which is currently promoting its Superjet-100 passenger craft to civil airlines.

    Short-term success

    As well as rejecting the MiGs, India also turned down proposals from US firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin.

    But backing Euro technology – which is almost twice as expensive as the Russian offer – could be part of a longer-term strategic project.

    Vinay Shukla of the Press Trust of India told Kommersant that India wanted to develop its own light fighter jet.

    “A bet on European manufacturers is based on the fact that the acquisition of their fighters will allow India access to the technology best suited to implementing its own program,” he said.

    Russian jet misses out on big Indian contract | BUSINESS | The Moscow News
     
  2. blackops

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    i dont know why were the russians sure about this deal mig 35 did not offer much as other jets would have
     
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    They know this long before thats why they dnt sent Mig35 in Aero India
     
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    Mig - 35 Along With F-16 Were Never In competition.
     
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    Dassault Rafale is better than Mig-35.

    Did I mention that Rafale is semi-stealth? It is the best military jet available on international market right now.

    Mig-35 is basically the same as Mig-29, lol. The Russians need to come up with more innovative aircraft with better capabilities if they are to win against the French.
     
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    India should have accepted this MiG-35; India has to gain much via tech transfers versus Product transfers...if they but realised
     
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    Mig 35 is just a notch higher than su 30 mki in terms of technoogy. We are producing Su 30 mki with TOT so mig 35 would not have offer much more.
    Also we are in a joint venture to produce 5 gen aircraft with Russia so what you think would remain untouched in terms of russian tech?
    Now we will have access to european tech also and that will come handy in developing our own 5 gen AMCA.
     
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    one has every reason to doubt this also MiG is a different SCHOOL OF THOUGHT it never copies Sukhoi as you imply
     
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    Sukhoi 35BM:coffee:
     
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    Sukhoi Su 34, arguably the most potent strike fighter around.
     
  11. rkjindal91

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    Its a very close cousin to SU-30MKI
     
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    It's a god damned bomber you idiot!!!.
     
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    Russia knew all along that Mig-35 will never win the contract. Its not ready yet. Mig-35 is a closed chapter, they cold add some of its features like AESA, TVC to Mig-29K though any ways both are same.
     
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    Any chance of Indian government letting private companies into plane design and production? It's best time to create a viable defense industry in India.
     
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    from the first day MIG-35 had lost the competition , like it was pre planed...and indeed it's disgusing the way it has been done , by repeatedly insulting and downgrading this fighter by IAF...
    even IA has done the same for Arjun tank for long untill drdo conducted a fair trail...
    i doubt IAF feild trail was not fair too...

    now let me ask , IA rejected Arjun MBT many a time , but what would be their reaction if the same tank be with PA....
    on the same line , IAF has rejected MIG-35 way before trails , but what would be their reaction to see this fighter in PAF...and MoD shouldn't be in any issulsion that russia will never sell it to pakistan , after all ,once india take it's own course the russians too now has to find new market , MMRCA outcome has shown that it's all business , indian thinks that they have the money so they wil buy what they like , russians has the fighter so they will sell to whom they like.....