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Russia, Egypt Agree to Boost Military Cooperation – Putin


SOCHI, August 12 (RIA Novosti) - Russia and Egypt have agreed to expand military cooperation, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday after talks with his Egyptian counterpart Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.

"We actively develop our military cooperation. We signed a protocol on the issue in March. We sell our weaponry to Egypt. We agreed to expand this cooperation," the Russian leader said.

Moscow and Cairo discussed the deliveries of high-tech Russian military products, including 24 Mikoyan MiG-29 fighter jets, as well as its Kornet anti-tank missile systems, and Kamov Ka-25, Mil Mi-28 and Mi-25 attack helicopters.

The Egyptian president arrived in Russia Tuesday, on his first official visit since he was elected in May 2014. The two leaders planned to discuss the implementation of joint economic projects, including the possible creation of a free-trade zone between Egypt and countries of the Customs Union, and the settlement of the conflict in the Gaza Strip. In February, when he was still Egypt's defense minister, Sisi met with Putin in Moscow.

The United States, the European Union and their allies introduced several rounds of targeted sanctions against Russian companies and individuals after Crimea’s reunification with Russia in March, and followed up with sectoral sanctions targeting Russia’s defense, energy and banking sectors in July. In response, Russia started looking for alternative markets for its products, including in Asia and the Middle East.

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Russia vows to boost arms sales to Egypt

MOSCOW: Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday promised Egyptian counterpart Abdel Fattah El-Sissi to speed up the delivery of billions of dollars in arms and invited Cairo to forge free trade ties with a Moscow-led customs bloc.

The two strong-willed leaders have developed a warm working relationship since Putin gave his backing to El-Sissi’s presidential run during the Egyptian’s visit to Moscow in February.

Russian television showed the former field marshal descending the ramp of his plane and immediately being greeted with a display of heavy tanks and armored vehicles assembled on the apron of the Sochi airport.

We are actively developing our military and technological cooperation,” Putin later told El-Sissi at the Russian president’s Black Sea resort summer residence.

We signed a corresponding protocol in March. We are delivering weapons to Egypt. We are ready to expand this cooperation.

El-Sissi in turn thanked Putin for being the first leader to invite him for a visit outside the Arab world since his swearing-in as head of state.

“All the people of Egypt are closely watching my visit and expecting a high level of cooperation between our states,” Russian state news agencies quoted Sisi as telling Putin.

“I expect us to meet their expectations.”

Russia has jumped at the chance to grab a bigger slice of the Egyptian arms market after the United States suspended some of its weapons deliveries in the wake of Sisi’s crackdown on the former Islamic government last year.

Cairo hosted the Russian defense and foreign ministers in November — the first such visit since the Soviet era — for discussions on an Egyptian arms purchase plan.
Moscow’s Vedemosti business daily reported after those talks that Russia and Egypt were nearing a $3 billion (2.2 billion-euro) advanced missiles and warplanes deal that would be financed by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

The report said Moscow and Cairo had already either “initialled or signed” contracts for the purchase of Mig-29 fighters and Russian attack helicopters as well as coastal defense systems.

“Egypt is most interested in air defense systems,” said Moscow’s World Arms Trade Analysis Center chief Igor Korotchenko.


“I think that the signing of actual contracts is just a question of time,” the analyst said in a telephone interview. “A political-level agreement has already been reached.”

Putin noted that Egypt could purchase a fifth of Russia’s total wheat exports and was eager to help fill the void left by Moscow’s sanctions on US and European produce and meat.

The Russian leader also invited Cairo to establish a free trade zone between Egypt and a customs union Russia has forged with ex-Soviet Belarus and Kazakhstan.
State media did not report Sissi’s response to the invitation — if any. But it said he in turn told Putin that Russia was welcome to play a greater role in Egypt’s recently unveiled “new Suez Canal” project.

Closer agricultural and military trade ties between Cairo and Moscow — strategic partners during parts of the Cold War — are unlikely to play well in Washington amid the effective freeze in East-West relations brought on by the Ukraine crisis.
Putin has responded to his diplomatic isolation from the United States and its EU allies by striking a massive gas deal with China and inviting Latin American countries to sell their agricultural goods to Russia on preferential terms.

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How many anti-tank missiles? Do you have any idea if there is a specific air defense system or is still up for speculation?

If they are acquiring Kornet, do you believe it will still be effective against Israeli tanks due to trophy system?
 

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How many anti-tank missiles? Do you have any idea if there is a specific air defense system or is still up for speculation?

If they are acquiring Kornet, do you believe it will still be effective against Israeli tanks due to trophy system?
HOUSE OF SAUD will never pay for any weapon that can be used against Israel :astagh: :omghaha:

And yes this is being done to make Russia stop supporting Syria .
 

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HOUSE OF SAUD will never pay for any weapon that can be used against Israel :astagh: :omghaha:

And yes this is being done to make Russia stop supporting Syria .
I know that, I just want his opinion on the weapon system.

As for your second part, I don't know, I doubt Russia would end weapon sales to Syria.
 

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How many anti-tank missiles? Do you have any idea if there is a specific air defense system or is still up for speculation?
Numbers haven't been released. Air defence systems are: Tor M2, Buk M2, Tunguska, and Strela-S have been confirmed (still not totally convinced on the Tunguska).

If they are acquiring Kornet, do you believe it will still be effective against Israeli tanks due to trophy system?
Trophy system isn't fitted to all their Ms and it can be spoofed, and beaten given the right tactics, plus it hasn't been tested in a conventional environment where there may be multiple threats including artillery, MLRS etc. etc.

Kornet is also useful against any armoured vehicles, built up structures, and if lucky low flying choppers.

HOUSE OF SAUD will never pay for any weapon that can be used against Israel :astagh::omghaha:

And yes this is being done to make Russia stop supporting Syria
Show me one official Egyptian or Saudi source which says they are funding this deal. The Russians are already way too invested in Syria to pull out, they will not let strategic interests go for a couple billion every year or two.
 

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Numbers haven't been released. Air defence systems are: Tor M2, Buk M2, Tunguska, and Strela-S have been confirmed (still not totally convinced on the Tunguska).



Trophy system isn't fitted to all their Ms and it can be spoofed, and beaten given the right tactics, plus it hasn't been tested in a conventional environment where there may be multiple threats including artillery, MLRS etc. etc.

Kornet is also useful against any armoured vehicles, built up structures, and if lucky low flying choppers.



Show me one official Egyptian or Saudi source which says they are funding this deal. The Russians are already way too invested in Syria to pull out, they will not let strategic interests go for a couple billion every year or two.
I thought they did get the $3 billion from Saudi Arabia.
 

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I thought they did get the $3 billion from Saudi Arabia.
There has been no official statement from either Egypt or any gulf state. Most of the reports about funding are made on the basis of a Saudi official I believe saying they would refund Egypt any military aid it was due from the US after they cut it, but that wasn't an official statement either.
 

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There has been no official statement from either Egypt or any gulf state. Most of the reports about funding are made on the basis of a Saudi official I believe saying they would refund Egypt any military aid it was due from the US after they cut it, but that wasn't an official statement either.
Egypt's primary enemy = who ?
 

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Any nation or actor which endangers its national security within or outside its territory.
Please be specific;
Egypt is located in a fixed geography
and it has some history / doctrine with respect to that.
Keeping in view egypt's political and diplomatic positioning

kindly answer, what are these purchases made to counter ?
Who is Egypt's enemy ?
 

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Please be specific;
Egypt is located in a fixed geography
and it has some history / doctrine with respect to that.
Keeping in view egypt's political and diplomatic positioning

kindly answer, what are these purchases made to counter ?
Who is Egypt's enemy ?
Which neighbouring nation has a sophisticated air force and army? is it Libya? is it Sudan? is it Gaza? once you have answered those the nation becomes clear.
 

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Which neighbouring nation has a sophisticated air force and army? is it Libya? is it Sudan? is it Gaza? once you have answered those the nation becomes clear.
I am surprised why you are adopting this mode of answering.

However what I want to debate with you is that all the pieces of perspective purchase are intended for a full fledged
war / armor columns and infantry support.

Whereas Egypt's recent problem has been asymmetrical warfare with very motivated and small team based terrorists.

how will Mig 29 and other hi-fi stuff help in that ?
 

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I am surprised why you are adopting this mode of answering.

However what I want to debate with you is that all the pieces of perspective purchase are intended for a full fledged
war / armor columns and infantry support.

Whereas Egypt's recent problem has been asymmetrical warfare with very motivated and small team based terrorists.

how will Mig 29 and other hi-fi stuff help in that ?
I've been evasive because its obvious. Egypt's armament policy is still geared towards facing Israel. It already has the armament required to face an asymmetric fight with militant groups, and has been doing so successfully for the past two years, which has
resulted in a very significant decrease in terror attacks, and it is still being proactive in rooting such groups out.
 

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I've been evasive because its obvious. Egypt armament policy is still geared towards facing Israel. It already has the armament required to face an asymmetric fight with militant groups, and has been doing so successfully for the past two years, which has
resulted in a very significant decrease in terror attacks, and it is still being proactive in rooting such groups out.
Well. Good Luck.

I am willing to accept your stance; although it still does not make 100% sense.
 

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