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  1. AZ1

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    ISLAMABAD - Pakistan has received assurances of support from two regional powers after a humiliating tweet by US President Donald Trump.



    Diplomatic sources told The Nation that alongside the vocal support from China , Pakistan had received telephonic assurances from Russiathat Pakistan should not consider itself “isolated”.

    “The contacts with Russia after Trump’s statement have been encouraging. They support our view and are standing with us,” said a senior official at the foreign ministry who remains in contact with Moscow.

    He added: “Russia is willing to enhance the bilateral ties and engage further on defence. We have two big powers with us as Washington attempts to pressurise Pakistan .”

    Last month, Russian Consul General in Karachi Dr Aleksandr Khozin had said Pakistan and Russian relations were getting stronger and both the countries shared views on peace in the region.

    Dr Khozin said Pakistan occupied a significant place in Russia’s foreign policy priorities and Moscow considered it a partner.

    He recalled that meeting held on the sidelines of last year’s 72nd United Nations General Assembly in New York, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif and Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov had discussed ways to strengthen Pak-Russia relations.

    “The issue of Afghanistan and peace in that country was also discussed in the meeting,” he added.

    As the year 2018 started, Trump tweeted: “The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies and deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!”

    Pakistan responded by saying Trump’s “no more” mantra was worthless as Islamabad was not prepared to “do more”.

    Earlier on Tuesday, China asked the world to acknowledge Pakistan’s “outstanding contribution” to counter terrorism.

    Asked to comment on Trump’s statement, Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “Pakistan has made enormous efforts and sacrifices in the fight against terrorism and has made very outstanding contribution to the global cause of counter terrorism. The international community should acknowledge that.”

    Shuang added: “China and Pakistan are all-weather partners. We stand ready to promote and deepen our all-round cooperation so as to bring benefits to the two sides.”

    China was glad to see Pakistan engaging in international cooperation, including counter terrorism, on the basis of mutual respect so as to contribute to regional peace and stability, Shuang said.

    During the first-ever trilateral meeting of the foreign ministers of China , Pakistan and Afghanistan in Beijing last week, Beijing announced plans to extend the CPEC to Afghanistan, which shares close ties with India.

    Asked whether Trump’s criticism would affect China’s efforts to bring peace between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Shuang said “We believe as neighbours, China , Pakistan and Afghanistan are closely linked not only geographically but also in terms of common interests. It is natural for us to enhance communication and exchanges.”

    He said that during the December 26 trilateral meet, the three countries “reached a lot of consensus” on cooperation. This included enhanced cooperation on counter-terrorism and fighting against terrorism in all forms and manifestations. “The parties will enhance cooperation in this regard,” Geng said.

    China is investing close to $57 billion under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project, which speaks volume about the two nations’ friendship.

    Pakistan had also handed over control of Gwadar Port to China’s state-owned China Overseas Ports Holding in February 2013. Gwadar Port - built by Chinese workers and opened in 2007 -is undergoing a major expansion since.

    Officials at the foreign ministry said Pakistan was “happy” to get the “customary support” from China . “This is what we expect from China . This makes our relationship stronger,” said an official.

    Source is Pakistani :https://nation.com.pk/03-Jan-2018/russia-china-stand-behind-pakistan

    This is yet to be confirmed from Russia
     
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    I wont be surprised if Russia backs Pakistan, US will back every Country who speak against Russians or China .. so if Russia did the same its not unnatural .
     
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    I'm not worried about the support from the international community but about the incompetent govt of Pakistan and traitors inside our boundaries and the inability / unwillingness of the institutions especially judiciary and the army / establishment to take stern actions against them. The farce of judicial process has not resulted in anything concrete yet. NS is still walking and flying free, spewing venom against the state but both the judiciary and army have not done anything to stop that. Corruption is still going on...
     
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    'This is yet to be confirmed by Russia'. This is the only truth in this propaganda piece. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    It was expected, pakistan ministers will say that Russia and China are supporting us.
     
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    My fears exactly. We first need to get rid of our domestic traitors, the likes of nawaz, zardari, diesel, achakzai, asfandyarwali.
    Only than can Pakistan take on international threats.
     
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    Pakistani minister did not say anything like that about Russia. Anyway we have to wait to see the foreign policy alignments and shifts in coming years so yeh possible Russia/China and Now looking at what is going on in Iran, a lot of make and break alliances.
     
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    Things are getting interesting as one can see. One side of the Afghan border the ISIS is making progress with recruits jumping in from god knows where. And one random group claiming to launch jihad inside Pak.Trump issues rhetoric statements and not to mention some is playing/inducing the fire in Iran.
     
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    The thing doesn't work that way. This is multipolar world and alignments will not work.

    Look at India foreign policy, we have good relationship with Iran and Palestine, and Muslim world at same time we have good relationship with Israel and west countries.

    We are strategic partner of US and at Same time we have good and trustworthy relationship with Russia.

    We have many issues with China but trade and economic relationship is also good.

    Russia will not come and help you for any critical time and nor china will come if you are still not able stand on your legs after 70 years independence. That's a open fact.
     
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    That is all about economy. The world is in fact moving in that direction and the very reason American power seems to be shaking. As far as help well nobody comes to help of anyone and neither I was talking about any help. Alignments get changing with the passage of time scenarios same will happen in this part of the world. everyone will work for own interests and in this multipolar world Russia/China/Iran/Pak may come closer than ever. But as I said we have to wait and see. Nothing is indeed permanent
     
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    Not agreed with Russia/China/Iran/Pak block.
    I can understand your feelings but again I will say that cold war is already overed in 1990's.

    Pakistan - Russia relationship will definitely gonna improve but alignments and block, :blah::blah::blah: only in Pakistan and pdf.

    In reality, Russia will look her interest and China will also. I m seeing nothing gonna to change in coming years.
     
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    Countries looking after their own interests

    Pakistan looking after its own interests

    The interests however are aligning
     
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    Having wars since 1947 and able to defeat the russia in afghanistan and now It's USA turn. When a country has to involve in all sort of wars you can't expect that country to be strong economically yet Pakistan manage to do well became nuclear power and still taking threats from Taliban and from US also that is also a fact that Pakistan gave nightmares to it's enemy for 70 years and they couldn't do anything. We will and can take sanctions but what will US do if NATO supply is blocked by Pakistan that is a big question now. Russia either waiting for that to happen or waiting for US to put sanctions on Pakistan then Pakistan can go to Iran for Pipeline project and complete it. Import Oil from Russia and keep it focus on CPEC.
     
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    Agreed, I am saying alignments and block. We have seen this during cold war. Means, US is my enemy then we should have good relationship with Russia

    Now in Multipolar world, it will not work. Russia will maintain good relationships with India and also try to improve relationship with pakistan.

    China is better than Russia for you on this case but china can help you but maximum particular limit.

    Pakistan has to improve relationship with neighbors and world powers.

    Don't say, pakistan defeated to Russia. Pakistan only helped to US and aligns during cold war between US and Russia.

    Now everything is changed. Russia will never try to do any adventure, Russia will look for her interest. Also she is not super power and will like to to benefits from multipolar world
     
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    US never confront war face to face with Russia. It's Pakistan who did that. You are right time has changed now and history is repeating itself just places has been exchange now in place of Russia now it's USA. Russia is waiting now as US already in Afghanistan and it's hard to digest for US to accept defeat. Russia is looking for it's interest agreed and there is a reason why Russia and Pakistan is trying to make their relationship better.
     
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