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The Eagle

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I don't mind it. I just wish Pakistanis don't hold any regrets abou 1962 after boasting about Russian support
In-fact Pakistan learnt a lot from the history and while we see India seriously taking US promises to take China head on, its just disappointing especially seeing the aftermath. I am sure no one worshipped US in Pakistan the way world sees Indians doing so. Off you go my dear.
 

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We shouldn't be judging India-Russia bilateral ties through the perspective of a meeting of a multilateral organisation where Russia was the host.
It seems that every slap in the face hits India 1,000x harder. This egotistical nation simply cannot take a slight. They have to go to extremes to revenge the imagined loss of their honor.

In the process they lose more friends and allies, and the rest of the nations simply look on in disbelief at what they are witnessing.
 

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Russia backs Pakistan’s stance on new map
Dr Moeed Yusuf says Kashmir is neither part of India nor it will ever be


APP September 16, 2020

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ISLAMABAD:
Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on National Security Dr Moeed Yusuf said on Wednesday Russia supported Pakistan’s stance regarding the country’s new political map which was in accordance with the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions and international laws.
Talking to the media here, Dr Yusuf said the Tuesday’s virtual meeting of the National Security Advisers of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) rejected India’s objections to the display of Pakistan’s political map in the meeting room.

“Pakistan proudly displayed the political map at the SCO meeting, while the Indian objections were rejected by the member countries and even Russia sided with Pakistan on the issue”, Dr Yusuf told reporters.

He said that Russia, as the host country, he requested the technical groups of the participating countries to test their technologies three days ago. During that technology test on September 11, India raised objection to the display of Pakistan’s map on the wall in its meeting room.

He said that India lodged a formal complaint to Russia, registering its protest against declaring Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) as a part of Pakistan in the map. He added that Russia conveyed to Pakistan that India wanted that map not to be displayed during the virtual session.

However, responding to that complaint, the Foreign Affairs Ministry told Russia that the map, launched on August 5 to which was observed as ‘Youm-Istehsal’, reflected “our legal right and is according to the United Nations Security Council resolutions and removing it from anywhere is unquestionable”.

Dr Yusuf said that Pakistan clearly stated that Kashmir was neither part of India nor it would ever be. “We have reminded the SCO members that India is violating the UN Charter by trying to illegally change the status of IIOJK,” he added.

Criticizing the walkout from the meeting by Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Dr Yusuf said that the SCO was not the right platform to raise objections to Pakistan’s map as it dealt with multilateral issues and not the bilateral ones. “It is the forum of cooperation and engagement.”

About his speech at the forum, Dr Yusuf said he focused on four points. “Firstly, Pakistan being an important member stands with the SCO which urges all the countries to follow United Nations norms and principles,” he said.

“Secondly, it is the responsibility of international community to exert pressure on those countries which are not accepting United Nations resolution and not following international laws to resolve the disputes,” he added.

Thirdly, Dr Yusuf continued, he highlighted that there was hardly any country that had fought against terrorism like Pakistan died and “now the whole world recognises its efforts and needs to learn from its experiences”. Fourthly, he mentioned, the Intra-Afghan talks were not possible without Pakistan’s role.

“Now, the dialogue has started and Pakistan will play the role of facilitator,” he said. “But if we say if any other country can guarantee the peace in Afghanistan will be wrong and Pakistan cannot be blamed if God forbids there will any hiccups in that process of dialogue,” he added.

Dr Yusuf said that Pakistan talked about regional connectivity and economic security. “Pakistan is a responsible state and it does not want any conflict in the region and its focus is on economic diplomacy through boosting regional connectivity.”

He told the forum that said Pakistan wanted to provide corridors to Russia, Central Asia and China and wanted to use the Gwadar deep seaport. “We want peace in Afghanistan so that we can have access to Central Asia,” he added.

“Pakistan’s focus is CPEC [China Pakistan Economic Corridor] and having access to Central Asia leading to economic security which is our paramount objective. Pakistan is the hub where economic interests of the world meet not proxy wars.”



so russia gave statement in moid yousuf's ear ?
where is the russian statement ?
 

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so russia gave statement in moid yousuf's ear ?
where is the russian statement ?

The official said the SCO chair Russia “tried very hard to persuade Pakistan not to do so” and Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the National Security Council of Russian Federation, expressed his personal appreciation to Mr. Doval for his participation.

“Russia does not support what Pakistan has done and hopes that Pakistan’s provocative act will not affect India’s participation in SCO and definitely not cast any shadow on Mr. Patrushev’s warm personal relationship for NSA,” said the source.
Ajit Doval walks out of SCO meet after Pakistan shows new map
 

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We shouldn't be judging India-Russia bilateral ties through the perspective of a meeting of a multilateral organisation where Russia was the host.
I doubt anyone here is so silly. All that's happened is Doval got trolled. Plenty of burned Indians feel an urge to respond to said trolling on this thread. Indians have generally been very sensitive since Feb 2019.
 

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Reminds me of 71..... We are Pakistan and USA is with us.
Pakistan foreign policy is China centric not Russia centric and Russian policy is now China centric. 71 Russia was comrade nationalistic and now it's all business. After all standoff situation with Turks in Syria, Russian sold top of the line weapon, then don't expect anything from Russia. But Pakistani govt is very careful dealing with Russian. Pak deal Russians through China now.
 

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This is purely the Pakistani claim only.
India's claim is the exact opposite (that is Russia supported India fully on this issue).
Since, Russia has not given any statement, the exact truth will not be known.


Indian statement below:

Ajit Doval walks out of SCO meet after Pakistan shows new map

The official said the SCO chair Russia “tried very hard to persuade Pakistan not to do so” and Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the National Security Council of Russian Federation, expressed his personal appreciation to Mr. Doval for his participation.

“Russia does not support what Pakistan has done and hopes that Pakistan’s provocative act will not affect India’s participation in SCO and definitely not cast any shadow on Mr. Patrushev’s warm personal relationship for NSA,” said the source.
 

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Indian right wing hindutva government has alienated and isolated India diplomatically.
Recently indians rejected Russia because they thought India is now a super power and don't need a less power like Russia anymore 😂
The fact remains a fact that Russia is the third major power of this world as we speak.
 

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This is purely the Pakistani claim only.
India's claim is the exact opposite (that is Russia supported India fully on this issue).
Since, Russia has not given any statement, the exact truth will not be known.


Indian statement below:
"an informed source said. "

Translation = Complete garbage for desperate Indians to try and save face
 

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I doubt anyone here is so silly. All that's happened is Doval got trolled. Plenty of burned Indians feel an urge to respond to said trolling on this thread. Indians have generally been very sensitive since Feb 2019.
I just mean the general posts in such threads, they're usually just troll posts, with no real substance or analysis to them.
 

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With day by day addition of Humiliation to india in international community,
I am still trying to understand, What was the actual motive of 370..

Dhakka Kis ney Diya :coffee: :usflag:
 

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This is Pakistan Defence Forum and people don't get banned for being from other nationality or minority or someone not agreeing to so-called Asian Police. You get warning or bans for your violation and just reach GHQ Incase you don't agree.

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This is purely the Pakistani claim only.
India's claim is the exact opposite (that is Russia supported India fully on this issue).
Since, Russia has not given any statement, the exact truth will not be known.


Indian statement below:
Not giving an official statement by Russians is more than enough indication that the Russian favor, Indians were enjoying for so many years, have been diminishing.
 
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