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Russia and Iran are accelerating their project to rival the Suez Canal

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You think every single one of those aircraft are going to be dropping their payloads against multi-billion dollar state of the art anti air defense assets of the persian gulf/zionist entity?

70 su 57s wouldnt have a chance if it came to a real shooting war with Irans realistic enemies.
are you sure
 

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Watchout what happens from now on. Its gonna be NATO vs "The three"
US already lost then....just speaking the facts. US and NATO cannot win another war in our lifetime again a competent military.

If you think that China or Russia consider Iran their equal or their strategic ally, you can't be more wrong.
you're the one whose wrong here , again, because the long term secret strategic agreements China AND Russia signed with Iran speak for the state of their relationships, and its ok to disagree with those relationships, but thats a different discussion from whether Russia and China consider Iran their strategic ally - the answer is a resounding YES.

Why? No other state as influential and capable as Iran in the middle east can provide all the needs that China and Russia have in the world and that region.
 

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1, The relationship between China and Turkey is not good, even bad. But China and Saudi Arabia do have good diplomatic relations. The Chinese have a very positive attitude towards both the Saudis and the Iranians.

2, Saudi ICBM do come from China. In 1987, Saudi Arabia purchased 36 long-range missiles from China with us $3.5 billion. China really shouldn't sell long-range missiles, but at that time, China had only $1.2 billion in foreign exchange in its treasury. The deal saved China's economy. In 2013, Saudi Arabia used the upgrade clause agreed in the original contract. China did help Saudi Arabia upgrade its missile to DF21. But according to the contract, these ICBM can only be used for counterattack. If it is used for active attack, China has the veto power.

3, The Chinese govt has always avoided getting involved in the internal conflicts of Islamic countries in the Middle East. The arms trade between China and Saudi Arabia in 1987 was purely monetary. These missiles will not pose a threat to Iran. Otherwise, China will not invest $400billion in Iran.

4, If Iran&Saudi Arabia conflicts with Israel, Turkey, ISIS and other countries, China will be a reliable ally. If there is a conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia, please forget the existence of China, China will definitely choose neutrality.

Thanks for this assessment, which offers a nice counter-point to the China-critical discourse popular among some (but not all) Iranians.

You probably know that the Iranian opposition in exile, which is entirely backed by and dependent upon the US, EU and zionist regimes, is marked by systematic antagonism China. And so are within Iran itself the reformist and moderate factions, which are liberal and western-apologetic. While the revolutionary and conservative parties in Iran have positive views of China (as an example, Iran's current President Raisi belongs to the revolutionary camp, his predecessor Rohani to the moderate one). Generally speaking, all those who have an issue with the anti-imperialist principles of the 1979 Islamic Revolution and/or with the political order of the Islamic Republic, display the animosity towards Beijing and question Iran's policy of Resistance against the USA.

But did you know that Persian-language media funded by individuals with links to the Saudi regime, are heavily badmouthing China too (as well as Russia)? This begs an important question: while it is understandable that these foreign-based media whose aim it is to brainwash and incite the Iranian people against the Islamic Republic, will try and demonize literally everything the Iranian government does, why would the Saudi-funded one also push a fully fledged pro-American line at the expense of China, while Beijing is supposed to be a strategic partner of Riyadh?

Here some examples from the satellite TV broadcaster Iran International, which is managed by a Saudi national, operating on a huge budget out of London and has in a couple of years managed to attract a viewership comparable to other such media (e.g. BBC Farsi or Manoto, also based in London):

How Come Islamic Countries are Silent About China’s Crackdown on Muslims

Sunday, 06 Jan 2019 00:10
https://old.iranintl.com/en/world/how-come-islamic-countries-are-silent-about-china’s-crackdown-muslims

UN Rapporteur Who Just Visited Iran Is In Cahoots With China - Watchdog

5/20/2022
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202205204194


It would be interesting to know the Chinese authorities' take on this. To me, it tends to be indicative of two points:

1) No matter how many high level economic cooperation agreements and even military deals China will ink with Saudi Arabia, the latter will remain closer to the Washington. If the idea is to gradually draw US allies out of the American fold, I doubt it will work with the Saudis. This also makes one wonder whether Riyadh will always stay completely neutral in the intensifying confrontation between the US and China. Whereas Iran for her part is guaranteed to favor China over the USA regime - unless a successful "color revolution" takes place where (reformists / moderates) topple the revolutionaries, or unless the Islamic Republic is brought down through military means by the zio-Americans. Both these scenarii however are highly unlikely.

2) It might actually be a deliberate policy of the US regime to allow its Saudi clients to cultivate ties with China. Why? Because this way, Saudi Arabia may develop some leverage with Beijing when it comes to the latter's relationship with Iran. Maybe that's why Washington has hardly ever protested Ryadh's rapprochement with China to my knowledge, whilst it did against Isra"el"'s joint projects with China (Haifa port affair, transfer of military technology from Isra"el" to China, etc). Compared to the zionist regime, Riyadh definitely doesn't enjoy as much leeway vis à vis the USA. So some other factor must be at play here, and in my opinion, it would be an attempt by Washington to have Saudi-Chinese relations act as a counterweight to China-Iran ties, with Beijing setting a cap on how far it is willing to work with Iran its business and other interests in Saudi Arabia could be jeopardized. In that sense and contrary to all appearances, the USA might in fact welcome increased cooperation between Saudi Arabia and China, rather than fearing that this would lead to the loss of a key ally in West Asia.

Just my tentative analysis.
 
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China might jointly funded (loan the money for) a Trans-Iranian Canal, if it built a canal across China and Kazakhstan to the Caspian. Such a series of canals would be the holy grail for Chinese influence in Eurasia, as from the Caspian, Chinese trade can go through the Don-Volga canal to the Black Sea and from there up the European rivers to Rotterdam on the Atlantic. A China to Caspian canal could also solve their development dilemma in Western China, as well as providing more water to make more arable land in Central Asia. The Soviets had plans for these since the 40s. Btw, if China goes through a route with Turkmenistan, it may not have to even go to the Caspian and can therefore avoid deal with Russia and Iran, to get to the Indian Ocean.

Considering the danger of sea level rise, it could be the greatest feat of engineering and would solve China’s Malacca Dilemma.

Btw, there is an alternative route that goes through Turkmenistan (there is an existing Soviet era canal that could be used), Afghanistan, and Pakistan, but that would require vision, cooperation as well as financing. Such a canal would really cement Gwadar’s place on the world economic map. The rivers, for a proposed Iranian canal in eastern Iran, come from rivers from Afghanistan. Considering the amount of mining resources in Afghanistan, a canal for the Afghans would make their mineral extraction competitive. It would also cement the power of the southern Pashtuns through who’ part of Afghanistan it would flow through.

I know this all sounds like a pipe dream, but it’s routes that probably involve less desalination then Iranian canal.
 
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UPDATE on this:

Russia’s first transit train enters Iran to cross into India​

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July 12, 2022
Transit train in Iran

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The Russian cargo which contains construction materials for delivery to an Indian customer started its journey on June 27 and traveled for 3,800 kilometers through Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan before arriving in Iran. Authorities said the cargo will reach Bandar Abbas after a 65-hour, 1,600-kilometer journey on the Iranian railway.
 

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This excellent report gives you a global picture of how and why the global East-West trade which has been going through Suez Canal is being supplemented by the global overland road and rail transportation networks due to Price, Time of Travel and political situations

Many of these transportation corridor pass through Iran making this country a significant transport hub for the East-West trade with a possibility of $20 billion dollars annual income for the country...

The report is in Farsi and need google translation of you do not read Farsi

It covers:
  • NORTH-SOUTH corridor (INSTC) with all branches;
  • Belt and Road corridor
  • UK-China SILK road corridor
  • Trans Caspian corridor
  • Central Asia (Almaty-Istanbul) corridor
  • ITI (Islamabad_terhran_Istanbul) rail corridor
  • South Asia corridor
  • Persian Gulf-Black sea corridor
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