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Muhammad Omar

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Why we always look toward junk whether it's Cobra or F16 or howitzers??
Pakistan is a junkyard? Why do members always suggest Pakistan buy overused equipment that have no military value?
Exactly. While the world try to procure new and modern systems we always look towards junk and scrap
 

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While india is being provided Apache's, Pakistan is denied the acquisition of 50 year old cobras.

If that doesn't tell us who are enemy is than nothing will.
 

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Theyre upgraded with israeli avionics
So ?
Pakistan used Israeli spares for the F-16 and computers for UAVs. This forum probably runs on code or some input from either Israelis or Indians.
No thanks. Not with Israeli avionics.
Dont ever use VOip like Viper, whatsapp, fb and any of those services again. Not to mention, your country of residence’s cyber security system also has Israeli input.

There were weapons built in Quraish run forges or bought from the Jews of Medina in Badr but here were have the next level unnecessary haram-certification ongoing.
 

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While india is being provided Apache's, Pakistan is denied the acquisition of 50 year old cobras.

If that doesn't tell us who are enemy is than nothing will.
Or it tells us Pakistanis are generally inept nincumpoops who have no idea how diplomacy both overt and covert works nor have any idea of people influencing and understanding other nations systems.

Right now, Pakistani born Americans can apply for Small Business loans in the US and get successful results because a Pakistani was appointed to lead it. The same way Indians sit at multiple levels of government and can push their agendas. They work with lobbies and congressmen directly.

Pakistani leadership in their shortsightedness either thinks the general to general relationship is enough or being a MNNA works.

Even the Israelis get denied tech at times because Lockheed Martin or Raytheon lobbied for tech IP security.

Have no idea of the system but making broad defeatist conclusions is typical of Chand & Sitara.
 

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Right now, Pakistani born Americans can apply for Small Business loans in the US and get successful results because a Pakistani was appointed to lead it. The same way Indians sit at multiple levels of government and can push their agendas. They work with lobbies and congressmen directly.
the thing that I notice about Pakistani America's that once they become successful in life, they become greedy and will do everything in their power to stop the progression of other Pakistan, and once they spend few years in America they stop associating themselves with Pakistan, they pretend they never had any connection to Pakistan and it is some sort of insult to them or their family, I mean why? America has racism embedded in its society just a few decades ago, and yet they never feel ashamed to call themselves Americans. I wish Pakistani's learn and progress in America, get in high positions and Politics so they can for the least do something for their fellow countrymen back in Pakistan.
 

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Technology has moved forward our next Helicopters need to have a Avionics suit which includes high tech radar integration for advance weapon's unloading

Cobras are a bit old Tech
 

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Why we always look toward junk whether it's Cobra or F16 or howitzers??

Exactly. While the world try to procure new and modern systems we always look towards junk and scrap
They are good for counter-insurgency Operations, Pakistan has whole logistic support in place to support these Heli's, yes Zulu should come as well but bringing these used and upgrade them with modern avionics can save lives of PA/FC soldiers in Tribal Areas and Balochistan.
 

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Pakistan will get Latest Tech from China

  • New Chinese Helicopters
  • New Helicopters from Italy
  • New Helicopters from Turkey

More suited to 2021 and next 20 years with latest Avionics and best performance
 

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They are good for counter-insurgency Operations, Pakistan has whole logistic support in place to support these Heli's, yes Zulu should come as well but bringing these used and upgrade them with modern avionics can save lives of PA/FC soldiers in Tribal Areas and Balochistan.
Bro time doesn't waits for anyone and its our time to move on and after getting sanctioned Zulu's our true friends and enemy faces are crystal cleared.
F 16 sanctions gave us JF 17, when we returned US leased ships and they scraped us rather then leave it with us to be used and it ended up fruitarian of Turkish boats decades latter with TOT. There withholding of Zulu's am sure will lead us to find our own solution soon, just wait for another 5 years. There is no need for wasting time, dosh and effort for US old toys as they are not letting us to move on from the old worthless alliance. If we make a priority in helping out FC/PA in the hot spots then it can be done cheaply and reliably with drones. Biden is only interested in US influence and lets not fall for it, if he was then IK would have had telephonic conversation by now while Modi had what it suggests to you? US military delegations showing up in Islamabad is for Afghanistan reasons only other then that their state department is keeping us at the arm length as US policies priorities lies elsewhere. Controlling us through FATF, IMF and putting obstacles in the way of CPEC is the only thing going in the town at the moment.
 

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I think it's good for PAA to acquire and upgrade them. But PAA should focus on the negotiation on getting the 12 AH-1Z Super Cobras from the USA and ordering another 18 of them.
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A previous sale of Jordanian F16s to Pakistan was stopped by the US.

All resales of US weapons systems are subject to US approval

If Biden is sincere, then Pakistan won't even have to worry about buying second hand from Jordan, Biden will release the systems that it held back to Pakistan.

He is not. He's just logical, and thinks about what will benefit the US most in any given situation, if that means being friendlier to Pakistan, than so be it.
Current mind set is pakistan is too dependent on USA economically(IMF AB WB FATF) and stick is enough why offer a carrot & upset india ..

once pakistan is out of economic mess in 2-3 yrs then carrot might be offered
 

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