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REUTERS: Turkey blocks signing NATO defence plan for Poland, Baltic States

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  1. MMM-E

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    no more your lies and propaganda wont work

    YPG Terror organizantion recived weapons to invade 30% of Syria for destroying Syria's territorial integrity under the mask of fighting against ISIS

    The US , the UK , France , Germany support Israeli plan in Syria , the next target =to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity by PKK/YPG Terror organizantions

    btw wth is ISIS ? Turkey and The US would destroy shity ISIS in a few months
    but The US-The UK and Israel used PKK/YPG and ISIS terror organizations for their dirty plans in Syria and Iraq


    I am saying again The US use NATO in Afghanistan to fight terrorism

    In 2003, NATO assumed leadership of the UN mandated International Security Assistance Force Mission (ISAF). ... The BSA and a NATO Status of Forces agreement signed in 2014 provide the legal basis for The US and NATO forces to remain in Afghanistan
     
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    That the "Official condition"... IRL it's something else...
     
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    Russia is no longer our enemy, Macron tells Nato before summit
    Charles Bremner, Paris


    November 29 2019, 12:01am, The Times

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    President Macron said that dialogue with Russia was essentialBERTRAND GUAY/AP
    President Macron set the stage for new discord in Nato by declaring that Russia was no longer the enemy of the alliance and calling for closer ties with Moscow.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...emy-macron-tells-nato-before-summit-9680wk9bw

    France's Macron: I'm not sorry I called NATO brain dead
    PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday said his remarks that NATO was experiencing “brain death” had been a useful wake-up call to alliance members, and he would not apologize for saying it.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-sorry-i-called-nato-brain-dead-idUSKBN1Y21JE
     
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    Samuel P. Huntington in his book Clash of Civilizations said the West’s enemy was initially the Godless Communism during the Cold War. Once this is over, the next would be an ideological battle along culture, ethnic, tribal and religious lines.

    After 9/11, US and Western Foreign Policies seems it’s mostly skipped the Cultural, Ethnic and Tribal conflicts and went straight to the religious conflict.

    1. 9/11 Wars started to change people’s perception of Islam as some sort of evil religion.

    2. The younger generation from 2001 up to now have only heard negatives things and these people are radicalized Western Evangelical Terrorists, and should be refereed to as such be they identify with Evangelical beliefs or not - because this is taking change across Christianity, and started with Far Right Evangelicals.

    3. Far Right parties are taking shape and uniting under the Christianity banner to mobilize population to protect their whiteness.

    This is a critical time whereas we need to kick out the West from our lands or stop them in their operations. When the west talks about stopping terrorists they are referring to stop Islam —
     
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  5. MMM-E

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    in 1991 after the collapse of Soviet Union the new enemy was ISLAM instead of Communism

    even in 1990 NATO summit , Margaret Thatcher said that Soviet Union collapse , so No need to look for enemies , Islam is our new enemy

    and since 1991 , Evangelist-Zionist bandit countries led by the US and the UK attacks muslim Countries Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya , Syria ,..... even Turkey by Pkk/Ypg terrorists since 1991

    who is the next muslim country in the NATO's list ?

    btw zionist Rothschild's officer MACRON is crying , because of Turkey destroyed their plan in Syria
     
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    After Islam the new enemy is China
     
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    If you look from the US' side, you should see the priorities of "the establishment" and the ones that who dominate it. It is seen that there is an area of internal struggle within the USA. The establishment will soon set priorities.

    China is not the sworn enemy of the establishment.Economic and sociological developments in the last 50 years confirm this. However, if wants to exceed its limits, it will be prevented. I cannot say whether they will win or not, but the US's swamp in the Middle East creates a great opportunity for China.

    We always need to know, in the postmodern world, each concept/ideology/country or axis is both friend and enemy of each other. We are in the world of interests and purposes of "elite minorities". And a very serious mass is instrumentalizing all these things by using these contents with ideology, cultural heritage and even democratic/developmental ambitions. How? Bcs all this mechanism is blurred with the concept of post-truth and perception engineering.
     
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    If Turkey is attacked from N. Syria by PKK, why shouldn't it be considered an attack on a fellow NATO member? And if the rest of #NATO doesn't care about it, why would Turkey care about the rest of #NATO's plans in EU borders with Russia? The double standard of the Europeans is something that I don't understand.
     
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    Because europeans are like this their arrogance makes them believe they are the centre of the world.

    Isis does not even have a airforce why the fck were the ypg given manpads and heavy weapons against a group that relies on light infantry and insurgent tactics and relies on captured weapons to keep itself going??
     
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    Excellent move by Turkey, why should countries which just a couple of decade ago were waging wars againt NATO should be included in NATO.
     
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    But the Syrian Army has and they fought against them too
     
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    Im talking about how the Americans and Europeans supplied heavy weapons to the kurds you fool.
     
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    u life on the other side of the world and u belive to know everything? They did not recive heavy weapons... you are the fool...

    Germany delivered to the YPG

    30 Milan launcher + 500 rockets
    16.000 G3 and G36
    8.000 pistols
    200 light Panzerfaust
    40 Panzerfaust
    40 MG´s
    10.000 handgrenades
    700 smale radiosets
    4.000 balistic vests
    30 mine searching and 20 metal detecting devices
    and finaly 40 sets of tools to clear left ammunition and mines

    please show me the heavy equipment they recived...
     
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    Well the Germans are not gonna show everything. What about the weapons secretly delivered.

    Stop playing games.
     
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    What type of shit is this again ?



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