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REUTERS: Turkey blocks signing NATO defence plan for Poland, Baltic States

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by dBSPL, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

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    What is Poland's problem with Turkey? I know they have a lot of Israeli/Jewish influence and holocaust guilt since they were overzealous supporters of the Nazis.
     
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    havent seen anything about this on german media. nobody literally gives a ****
     
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    It's not about Poland. Poland is kind of quiescent country against Turkey's regional problems. The aim of Turkey is to hold a mirror to the some of countries which are try to acting like hegemonic over Europe and which are declined to take responsibility within NATO, but trying to harm Turkey's national security framework in every opportunity.


    If this two-faced relationship model and supporting terrorism and destabilization works will not disappear : the threat perception will not only over Turkey, will encircle the entire Europe. In every sense and every way. It's just a beginning. And I'm sure this unstable situation is the end of united EU that both the US and Russia can benefit from.

    The West is not homogeneous in itself. Moreover, the collision of different powers is evident in the following years. From US domestic political struggle to corruption operations against Israel goverment, from unsuccessful coup attempt in Turkey up to the mass events in europe, the various manifestations of this struggle is possible to observe almost every point.

    The main reason for this crisis is that the alliance has come out of the common framework and has begun to drift in the pursuit of the interests of a small minority. For example, the United States has lost a lot of time in its struggle at Asian Pasific and has never been able to focus correctly. Why and for whom?
     
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    we will be happy. but they don't. they can not
     
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    no thats not it turkey is not Ukraine its a formidable country with a formidable military any russian action would met with very harsh Turkish response
     
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    First, Turkey buys Russian military equipment instead of NATO equipment. Second, they block NATO securing it's eastern EU border countries.

    Turkey is trying to play both sides (NATO and Russia) to it's own advantage.
    Sooner or later it's going to shoot itself in the foot, with those kinds of policies.
    Top that with it's dirty war against the Kurds, coupled with plenty of Turkish arrogance in places like this forum thread right here,

    and you got a recipe for the Turks learning humility the hard way, a day that i hope happens soon.
     
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    very funny

    NATO countries the US , the UK , France , Germany are busy to support PKK/YPG Terror organization against NATO member Turkey

    traitor scums


    -- Turkey saved Europe ( NATO Countries ) from 4 million Syrian Refugees
    -- Turkish Army is only NATO Army that fought toe to toe with ISIS Terrorists and killed more than 4.000 ISIS Terrorists in Syria and Iraq
    -- NATO used Turkish military bases to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq
    -- without Turkey , Europe ( NATO Countries ) can not defend their countries
    -- Kurecik Radar base in Turkey ( American AN/TPY2 Radar ) is key role for NATO's Air Defense Umbrella to protect Europe from Iranian and Russian Ballistic Missiles
    -- American and British Warships are in the Black Sea against Russia because of Turkey is NATO Member

    what about useless the Netherlands , Belgium , Germany , etc for NATO ? almost nothing

    and Turkey doesnt need useless Europe ( NATO Countries )



    Turkey lost $1 trillion and tens of thousands of citizens to fight the US and the EU ( NATO Countries ) backed PKK/YPG - DHKPC and FETO Terror Organizations since 1985

    Turkey should block all plans in NATO for useless European Countries



    Turks took all Anatolia from Byzatine Empire , not from ugly smelly terrorist Kurds who never had a state in history and came to Anatolia from ZAGROS Mountains in Iran

    and Ottomman Empire saved sunni muslim Kurds in Iraq from shia Iran in the 16th century
    Turkey saved 1 million Iraqi Kurds from SADDAM in 1990s
    Turkey saved over 400.000 Syrian Kurds from ASSAD Regime , PKK/YPG and ISIS Terrorist


    smart Zionism and Israel use stupid Europeans and terrorist Kurds as pawns to create greater Israel in the Middle East ,,, nothing else . nobody gives a sht to the Kurds . everything is for Israeli plans

    -- The US did not sell PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkey
    -- The US , the Netherlands and Germany withdrew PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Turkey
    -- The US , the UK , France , Germany are busy to support PKK/YPG Terror organization against NATO member Turkey
    -- The US/NATO backed FETO Terror Organization tried to destroy Turkish government and to start civil war in Turkey ( failed coup attempt in 2016 )
    -- The US , the UK , France , Germany support Israeli plan in Syria , the next target =to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity
    -- The EU Countries ( so-called our NATO allies ) were allies with Greece,Israel and Egypt to steal oil-gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean
     
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    Turkey is a frontline country in the war on terror.
    That comes with obligations, such as the sheltering of refugees.

    You feel you have to do too much for NATO and the EU, yet it is NATO power brought in over Turkish airstrips that ultimately gave your troops the edge it needed for victory.

    You should stop acting like spoiled children.
     
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    If you eurotrash love the pkk so much please give your homelands to them.

    Saying pkk is legit just as saying isis or aq are legit. Go to the sri lankans and say that the tamil tigers have legit claims see how they get those words shove it into your ***.

    European hypocrisy has no boundaries.
     
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    there is no rule in the NATO statutes that a NATO member can be thrown out...

    there are rules to become a NATO member if you like to become one..once you are in the NATO the only way to leave it is on own will.

    So there will be never a throw out of Turkey...

    and it is unfair of Turkey to mix a NATO defence case with internal turkish ethnic Problems between turkish and kurdish... next to that Turkey attack on Syria is their own thing not a case for the NATO...
    The NATO only gets active is a member state gets military attacked.
     
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    NATO get activated ONLY when Founder members get attacked...
     
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    no it counts for every member who signed the NATO contract. Not only for the founder..

    Article 5... It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all.
     
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    there is no any internal etnic problem in Turkey ..
    PKK/YPG is terror organization who destabilize Turkey , Iraq and Syria

    The US , The UK , France , Germany and many more NATO Countries support and give weapons to PKK/YPG Terror organization to kill Turkish people and to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

    The US use NATO in Afghanistan to fight terrorism

    since 1990s NATO Member Turkey under attack by PKK/YPG terror organization from Iraq and Syria
    and Turkey lost $1 trillion and tens of thousands of citizens to fight the US and the EU ( NATO Countries ) backed PKK/YPG and FETO Terror Organizations since 1985
     
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    bullcrap...

    YPG recived weapons to fight the ISIS

    The USA cant use NATO .. the Afghanistan action was based on a UN resulution (1386 and 1833) ...signed by China and Russia too not a single vote against...