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REUTERS: Turkey blocks signing NATO defence plan for Poland, Baltic States

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  1. dBSPL

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    Turkey refused to back the NATO defence plan for Poland and the Baltic States, as the state has not received enough political support from the alliance for its actions against Kurdish militia, the People's Protection Units (YPG) in northern Syria, according to Reuters agency.

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    In exchange for their approval, Turkey demands the formal recognition of YPG as terrorists by NATO. So far, their envoy has been told not to sign the plan.

    NATO is seeking formal approval by all 29 member states for the military plan to defend Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in the event of a Russian attack. The lack of Turkey’s consent for the plan means more delay in strengthening the alliance’s eastern flank.

    “The Turks are taking eastern Europeans hostage, blocking approval of this military planning until they get concessions," one of the diplomatic sources told Reuters.

    Referring to the case, NATO's spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said: "NATO has plans for defending all allies. NATO's commitment to the safety and security of all allies is unwavering.”

    The dispute is likely to be brought up at the 70th NATO anniversary summit in London in early December.

    In line with the provisions of the North Atlantic Treaty of 1949, an armed assault on one of the signatories of the pact is equal to an attack on all NATO countries. The treaty has developed various military strategies regarding the defence of its territory. Turkey blocking the signing of the new plan may become a dangerous precedent for Poland. link: https://polandin.com/45520833/turkey-blocks-signing-nato-defence-plan-for-poland-baltic-states

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    REUTERS Exclusive: Turkey holds up NATO military plans over Syria dispute - sources

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    BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Turkey is refusing to back a NATO defense plan for the Baltics and Poland until the alliance offers Ankara more political support for its fight against Kurdish YPG militia in northern Syria, four senior alliance sources said.


    A Turkish flag flies next to NATO logo at the Alliance headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, November 26, 2019. REUTERS/Francois Lenoir
    Ankara has told its NATO envoy not to sign off on the plan and is taking a tough line in meetings and in private conversations, demanding the alliance recognize the YPG as terrorists in the formal wording, the sources said.

    Turkey’s NATO delegation was not immediately available for comment. Turkey’s defense and foreign ministries did not respond to requests for comment.

    The dispute, before NATO holds its 70th anniversary summit in London next week, is a sign of divisions between Ankara and Washington over Turkey’s offensive in northern Syria against the YPG militia, which it regards as terrorists with links to Kurdish militants on Turkish soil.


    NATO envoys are seeking formal approval by all 29 member states for the military plan to defend Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in the event of a Russian attack.

    Without Turkey’s approval, it could be harder for NATO to step up its defenses in the Baltics and Poland quickly.

    “They (the Turks) are taking eastern Europeans hostage, blocking approval of this military planning until they get concessions,” one of the diplomatic sources told Reuters.

    A second source called Turkey’s behavior “disruptive” as NATO tries to show it is united after U.S. President Donald Trump voiced scepticism about the alliance and French President Emmanuel Macron suggested it was experiencing “brain death”.

    Asked about the issue, NATO’s spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said: “NATO has plans for defending all allies. NATO’s commitment to the safety and security of all allies is unwavering.”

    Turkey began its offensive in northern Syria after the United States pulled 1,000 troops out of the area last month. Ankara’s NATO allies fear the incursion will undermine the battle against Islamic State militants.

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    The plan for the Baltic states and Poland, drawn up at their request after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, has no direct bearing on Turkey’s strategy in Syria, but it raises issues about security on all of NATO’s frontiers.

    Under the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation’s 1949 founding treaty, an attack on one ally is an attack on all, and the alliance has military strategies for collective defense across its territory.

    Turkey made its demands before its offensive in northern Syria but the issue has come to a head because of next week’s summit, at which security documents are to be approved.

    NATO envoys still hope for a compromise because Ankara also needs leaders to approve a separate, upgraded military plan detailing how NATO would defend Turkey in the event of an attack, two of the diplomatic sources said.

    Macron, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will meet on the summit’s margins to discuss Ankara’s Syria operation.

    “Everyone is criticizing them (the Turks), but if they give in, it will be at the cost of non-interference in their Syria strategy,” one of the diplomatic sources said.

    link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...lans-over-syria-dispute-sources-idUSKBN1Y01W0
     
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    Time to kick Turkey out of NATO. It's obvious they don't want to be part of it.
     
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    Keep crying Indian :lol:
     
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    And induct supa powa India to fight NATO wars on the eastern front.

    NATO didn’t do jackshit for Turkey during Syrian crisis, specially when thinks went south with Russia.
     
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    I'm Indian-origin but not technically Indian.

    :rofl:

    What gave you this idea? India would never join a suicide pact that is called NATO. Perhaps you are mistaking India with Pakistan's membership in SEATO and CENTO. How did that go?

    It sounds like a good reason to leave NATO, in my opinion. If other NATO members don't have your back...
     
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    Technically you are not Indian but technically you know all the India- Pakistan politics inside out, and you are butthurt about Turkey. I think technically you are Full of dodo.
     
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    Technically not Indian..... some bullshit
     
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    There is no official way to kick a country out of NATO. Of course if US wants to do that, I am sure they can find a way. But of course this would decrease NATO's military and geographical power. NATO can't even imagine to control blacksea against Russia without Turkish State. And this might hurt the alliance even more in the future... Might trigger establishment of the Joint European Army. So it is a double-edged sword for US. Until they behave as a faithful ally, we will make life more difficult for them.
     
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    Let me guess you're an American? :usflag:
     
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    NATO cant kick Turkey out because at this point in time, its obvious Turkey doesnt need NATO but NATO needs Turkey.

    The world has changed and white countries cant take as complete and advantage of non-white developing countries. Turkey is showing regional and strategic maturity.
     
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    Time to deport all Indians
     
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    Bro, you are an Indian but based on your comments here i feel you are thinking like a white American,which you will never be. you better reset your mind.


    why should Turkey leave when staying gives Turkey more leverage and concessions?
     
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    ^this. They even took back their air defense systems after the jet shotdown and made it clear that they wont support Turkey and when operation peace spring began the spanish (last ones remaining) also wanted to withdraw their air defenses. NATO is nearing its end finally and the dynamics in the world are changing with the west loosing its influence. I expect the russians to make a move on the baltics, scandivia in the mid to long term. Who is going to challenge them ;) Russia is now more vocal and strengthened while the US focuses on China which is about to overtake the US- interesting times ahead. Turkey should position itself now more wisely in order to capitalize on upcoming conflicts.
     
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    Lets kick India off the planet while we at it
     
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