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because he has a following and even in civil military establishment there are people who share his takfiri ideology.

the Lal quarters melody G6 residence fills up the Red mosque to worship behind him.
Musharaf did many mistakes and one of them was letting him loose after he caught him escaping in burka. In the end it was our higher courts who actually let him free.
 

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Govt resolves issues with Maulana Aziz through dialogue to maintain normalcy in Islamabad: interior minister
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Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed addresses a press conference in Islamabad on Monday. — DawnNewsTV

Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Monday said that the government resolved issues with Maulana Abdul Aziz through dialogue, as it wanted the situation in the capital to remain normal.
Addressing a press conference in Islamabad, he said that there were several cases against Maulana Aziz but the government wanted the situation in the capital to remain normal. "That's why we keep talking to them," he said, adding that Maulana Aziz had an issue every other day.
"Every day he has an issue and every day we try to resolve it," he said, adding that there were 511 madrassahs and 1,000 mosques in the capital.
"Out of 511, we have issues with only one which we resolve through dialogue."
Without naming the entity he was referring to, the minister said that the government had made such efforts with another religious organisation. "However, the result of that was not a good one," he said.
The minister's statement comes days after police registered a case against Maulana Aziz, his collaborators as well as seminary students under the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) and different sections of Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) after flags representing the Afghan Taliban were found hoisted on the rooftop of Jamia Hafsa in G-7/3.
Maulana Aziz had also openly threatened police with dire consequences by using the name of the Afghan Taliban.
However, after registering the first information report (FIR), it was decided to seal it. This was the third time since Aug 21 Afghan Taliban flags were hoisted on the seminary.

 

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Why Sheikh Rasheed says that Islamabad administration is negotiating with this man? How come this man is having so much support in Islamabad? There are many religious scholars of Deoband origin teaching and administrating Madaris in Pakistan, but none of them behave so aggressively.

Though I have seen few of them accompanied with armed guards due to life threats, but I never saw any of the scholars holding weapons.

Lal Masjid incident in 2007 resulted around 100 Pakistanis killed because of his stubbornness and aggressive attitude. Weapons cache was also found after the seizure of Lal Masjid campus. There is enough evidence to pin down this man but still he is present in Lal Masjid, Islamabad.

IMO Islamabad authorities should take stern action by at least expelling and deporting (for life) this person from Islamabad.
 

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Why Sheikh Rasheed says that Islamabad administration is negotiating with this man? How come this man is having so much support in Islamabad? There are many religious scholars of Deoband origin teaching and administrating Madaris in Pakistan, but none of them behave so aggressively.
because last time army did operation
fallback was way too brutal
bomb blasts , suicide attacks etc

thats why army should remain as an army and politicians should remain politicians
 

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because last time army did operation
fallback was way too brutal
bomb blasts , suicide attacks etc

thats why army should remain as an army and politicians should remain politicians
And journalists shouldn't shill for terrorists, or actively call for an operation and then switch sides.
 

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because last time army did operation
fallback was way too brutal
bomb blasts , suicide attacks etc

thats why army should remain as an army and politicians should remain politicians
Army operation happened after failed negotiation. His brother was unwilling to give up.

Letting this person back inside the Lal Masjid is very bad decision. By allowing this man inside Lal Masjid, Islamabad administration is harbouring a time bomb. What if he shelters ISKP and TTP outfit members inside the campus and store another weapon cache.

Appreciate that Islamabad is a Capital city of Pakistan not any other city. This city is resident for top leadership of Pakistan along with the foreign dignitaries. Islamabad cannot afford any security risk.
 

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Army operation happened after failed negotiation. His brother was unwilling to give up.

Letting this person back inside the Lal Masjid is very bad decision. By allowing this man inside Lal Masjid, Islamabad administration is harbouring a time bomb. What if he shelters ISKP and TTP outfit members inside the campus and store another weapon cache.

Appreciate that Islamabad is a Capital city of Pakistan not any other city. This city is resident for top leadership of Pakistan along with the foreign dignitaries. Islamabad cannot afford any security risk.
Why don't they leave like the kiwis if they are constantly threatened by the red paint of the mosque?
 

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Army operation happened after failed negotiation. His brother was unwilling to give up.

Letting this person back inside the Lal Masjid is very bad decision. By allowing this man inside Lal Masjid, Islamabad administration is harbouring a time bomb. What if he shelters ISKP and TTP outfit members inside the campus and store another weapon cache.

Appreciate that Islamabad is a Capital city of Pakistan not any other city. This city is resident for top leadership of Pakistan along with the foreign dignitaries. Islamabad cannot afford any security risk.
ISI agents could infiltrate and find out but the problem is even they (field agents) are at risk of getting indoctrinated by his ideologies. Unless they are given training to deal with this sort of thing.

There was once a TTP recruiter, who said give me 30 minutes with you alone and I promise you will become a suicide bomber. Islam is a very sensitive topic in Pakistan.
 

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There was once a TTP recruiter, who said give me 30 minutes with you alone and I promise you will become a suicide bomber. Islam is a very sensitive topic in Pakistan.
Whenever, our Prophet salAllahu wassalm sent Islamic army for expedition, he clearly instructed the leaders of army not to attack or kill unarmed men, women, old persons, children (irrespective of their belief and caste) and cattle. He even instructed not to harm farms, vegetation and trees. This is the actual teaching of Islam.

Suicide bombers and other terrorists do not follow the teachings of Prophet salAllahu wassalm and kill innocent civilians in the name of religion. They are indoctrinated in the name of so called Islam preached by the recruiter.

Hatred for PA leadership does not mean that the aggrieved individuals have the right to take lives of PA soldiers and officers. These officers and soldiers are Muslims - most of them are devoted muslims and are on duty to protect the boundaries and important installations of Pakistan.
 

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because he has a following and even in civil military establishment there are people who share his takfiri ideology.

the Lal quarters melody G6 residence fills up the Red mosque to worship behind him.
This is the truth that needs to be said again and again. Politicians, judiciary, lawyers, army, police, media - all have an extremist streak who support this kanjar.

He doesn't have street power, he has elite power.

The state had no problem taking on Khadim Rizvi, but will never tackle this guy because he is of the same filth which forms our ruling class.
ISI agents could infiltrate and find out but the problem is even they (field agents) are at risk of getting indoctrinated by his ideologies. Unless they are given training to deal with this sort of thing.

There was once a TTP recruiter, who said give me 30 minutes with you alone and I promise you will become a suicide bomber. Islam is a very sensitive topic in Pakistan.
Only an idiot of the highest order would be blackmailed by a TTP recruiter m.

Question 1 - if martyrdom is do great and your cause so just, why are you not a martyr?
 

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There are two proxies that held this country hostage. One is saudi proxy,other is iranian proxy.This country listens to both proxies and both proxies controls many things in this country. It's sad but true. Musharraf did well against this system. Today pakistan is too weak to handle these groups.
 

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because last time army did operation
fallback was way too brutal
bomb blasts , suicide attacks etc

thats why army should remain as an army and politicians should remain politicians
If our country cannot defeat this man they govt should step down and put him in charge. We should officially become wahhabi emirate of Abdul Azizia.
 

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Whenever, our Prophet salAllahu wassalm sent Islamic army for expedition, he clearly instructed the leaders of army not to attack or kill unarmed men, women, old persons, children (irrespective of their belief and caste) and cattle. He even instructed not to harm farms, vegetation and trees. This is the actual teaching of Islam.

Suicide bombers and other terrorists do not follow the teachings of Prophet salAllahu wassalm and kill innocent civilians in the name of religion. They are indoctrinated in the name of so called Islam preached by the recruiter.

Hatred for PA leadership does not mean that the aggrieved individuals have the right to take lives of PA soldiers and officers. These officers and soldiers are Muslims - most of them are devoted muslims and are on duty to protect the boundaries and important installations of Pakistan.
There is a difference between what Islam is and what people think Islam is. Unfortunately the latter is more popular and is why people are so easily brainwashed into committing "jihad" against their own country by shooting up schools and blowing themselves up (while being paid by polytheists).
 

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This is the truth that needs to be said again and again. Politicians, judiciary, lawyers, army, police, media - all have an extremist streak who support this kanjar.

He doesn't have street power, he has elite power.

The state had no problem taking on Khadim Rizvi, but will never tackle this guy because he is of the same filth which forms our ruling class.
The so called elite gentry supporting this person should be marked, investigated and closely monitored for any visible tendency to compromise Pakistan's interest.

Compromise, negotiation or dialogue are not the solution. The same was done during Musharraf tenure and in the end Army had to take action resulting in loss of 100 lives.

Pakistan cannot afford any security risk or misadventure inside Islamabad.

Highest leadership must seriously note this issue for necessary action. It should not be left to Islamabad administration or politicians like Sheikh Rashid.
 

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