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RAW-NDS nexus working against Pakistan: Ehsanullah Ehsan

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  1. FalconsForPeace

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    In an exclusive interview to geo.tv, the former face of the outlawed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Jamaat-ul-Ahrar (JuA) Ehsanullah Ehsan has claimed that Indian spy agency RAW’s main aim is to stoke communal tension in Pakistan.

    Speaking to journalist Saleem Safi in his news show Jirga, Ehsan — who recently surrendered to the Pakistan Army — said RAW coordinated with the anti-Pakistan terrorist outfits based in Afghanistan through the NDS, the premier Afghan intelligence agency.

    “One of their main agendas is to create a rift between Punjabis and Pashtuns [in Pakistan],” said Ehsan on RAW’s intentions.

    When asked to comment on how anti-Pakistan terrorists are able to move freely inside Afghanistan, Ehsan said the Afghan government is fully aware of their movements. “We used to inform them beforehand that we would be passing by a certain area and should not face any difficulty. There was a proper system to it,” he explained.

    They [Afghans] also used to make us aware of the potential hindrances on the way, where they had no control in the presence of NATO or American forces, he stated further.

    JuA chief treated in India
    When asked to comment on [JuA chief] Omar Khorasani’s whereabouts, Ehsan said Khorasani has two to four houses in Afghanistan and three wives. “Therefore, he shuttles among Jalalabad, Khost and Kabul,” he said, adding that “the last time I met him was five to six months ago when he came to Khost to meet me.”

    Commenting on news of Khorasani being injured, Ehsan said that six months after the formation of JuA in 2015, Khorasani was injured in the area of Lalpura. “He went to India to get treatment where he was completely cured. He travelled on an Afghan passport.”

    On a question on the whereabouts of [TTP chief] Maulana Fazlullah, Ehsan said he is living in Kunar.

    Answering a question about the relations between TTP and JuA, Ehsan said each head was looking to take on total power.

    Regarding the potential merger of JuA and Daesh, Ehsan said Khorasani had demanded Daesh to make him their chief representative of the region but this was not accepted.

    Replying to a question, Ehsan informed that cross-border shelling on JuA camps by the Pakistan Army had resulted in the killing of several commanders and relocation of foot soldiers.

    TTP not an organised movement
    Ehsan said that when the TTP was formed in early 2008, the idea was to take part in Jihad against the allied powers in Afghanistan. He informed that their training base was in Mohmand Agency while the instructors there belonged to Afghanistan. When there was a military operation in Mohmand Agency in 2011, they moved to Kunar in Afghanistan, he added.

    Ehsan said that later he was called to Waziristan where he was appointed as the official spokesperson of TTP.

    Talking about the organisational structure of the TTP, Ehsan said as far as he was aware, TTP was not an organised movement. “It was like an umbrella. Baitullah Mehsud had gathered people (groups) from rural and urban areas to make the TTP. At that time, each area had its own chief. After Baitullah, Hakimullah Mehsud took over the leadership. After Hakeemullah’s death, the local chiefs all wanted to be the leader so Fazlullah was elected as the chief of the organisation after a lucky draw and Khalid Haqqani was appointed his deputy.”

    Ehsan said that when he had a dispute with the new Shura (council), he went to Nangarhar, Afghanistan. He added that after JuA’s formation, he moved around in Afghanistan.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/141643-RAW-NDS-nexus-working-against-Pakistan-Ehsanullah-Ehsan
     
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  2. jetray

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    Every one agrees,a guy who represented the organization which killed innocent children must be telling the truth. Guess what he got in exchange a free ticket away from his crimes. Tomorrow radio mullah will say the same thing and get a free ticket for all his crimes.
    Logic is quite simple you can commit horrible crimes but blame India then we will let you go.

    A simple question everyone should ask, why is this guy not charge-sheeted and put into trial for the crimes that took place?
     
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    Whatever he said isnt new or surprising.
     
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    So what's new ..we know Pakistan is at receiving end of Indian tactics ..while we are just reporting that India is doing this and that ..this means India is succefull in bleeding Pakistan rightly or wrongly they have gain far more success than our agencies who are unable to create anything in India from last several decades ...Army under Mush rule withdraw its support from Kashmir fighters too ...
     
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    we are giving every terrorist a chance to surrender. It happen every where in the world. An ex terrorist can be of more good than a dead terrorist sometimes. He will help us defeat there ideology.
    example: Gul badin hikmatyar is now US and Afghan governmment ally.
     
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    And TTP or JuA are working for the betterment of Pakistan? Its sad that state has negotiated with the killers of our children and people only on the condition that he shifts all the blame to India.
    It worries me when i think that people are thinking that he was an innocent person all these years and was picked up by bad boys.
     
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    Nothing new.
    Their coalition against Pakistan goes decades back.First with KHAD and now with RAW.For some bucks and having dreams of Pushtunistsn,Afghan govt always needed someone to work with them against Pakistan.Some Indian investment worked well in this case. TTP and Jamat ul Ahrar are their byproducts.
    However working against them we've mastered ourselves to capture their dogs from the extreme depths of this planet.
     
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    Your kalboshan devil uncle was chargesheeted u should hate him.
     
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    This much is certain. Whats also certain is there are lots of posers from Afghanistan pretending to be Pakistani pashtuns and I have been informed about this by someone already. They want to direct Pashtun thought in Pakistan and give the impression that they are anti pakistan. @Mian Babban is part of that agenda and he moved from Afghanistan to Pakistan to spread his ideology thinking that if he acted as a Pakistani pashtun more people would listen.

    Afghanistan will remain a thorn in our side until it is invaded by Pakistan and the arrogant Afghans taught a lesson they will never forget. There should be a price for aligning with our enemy, India. I also witnessed a video long ago of Hakimullah Mehsud appreciating a leader in Afghanistan for providing them a lot of support. It is clear that the job of TTP is to create ethnic divisions in Pakistan. We all have to be wary of this and stop voting ethnic. I have always been the first to condemn MQM.
     
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    No, he does not. It does not absolve TTP and other terrorist organisations of the crimes and sins but it let helps us in calibrating our response and let the people to see who is behind it. Though it is not a totally a new info that RAW is involved but the details provided him both in the public interviews are startling and especially during interrogation by agencies will provide us the key intel in targeting the masterminds.
     
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    International actors have been working against this state since 47 and each time I found that our security services and the ones supposed to take care of it have failed to be a step ahead and stop the enemy designs..
    Long history of it ,From full scale opeartions like megdot to the 2009 Attack on sri lankan team.
    The only reason why it is that because the institutions are not structured enough to create the ideal individuals, Instead of conquering the enemy our Generals conquer Pakistan instead ,Either it was after kargil or taking retirements and settling in huge mansions while a Grade 22 officer works entirely his life and settles for a 5 marla house in the outskirts of Rawalpindi.
    Start with the little problems and unjust practices to eliminate the enemy otherwise the true people of this country will flee just like millions already have.
     
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    so why you believed in Kasab ? he was a terrorist too who killed innocent people , women and children but you were jumping when he said to be Pakistani ? and Ehsan-ullah Ehsan is not the only one said about the NDS/RAW nexus, remember Latif ullah mehsood? caught by Americans under the escort of Afghan forces ? and than handed over to PA he said similar things . don't pretend that your country is sane or saint , India is actively involved in Killing hundreds of innocent civilians, women and children in Pakistan ..
     
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    Shameless Bharti's with no ethical and moral values hiding behind their screwed up logic. If that is your logic why did you believe what Ajaml Kasab who was involved in killing civilians?


     
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    Total BS... blaming India ti save his life...... Biggest BS TTP was form for Afganistan and accidently did all operation inside Pakistan. Hang this SOB in Mena Bazar Peshawar, where many women and children burnt to death .
    If he is saying the truth then ..... then who formed TTP ...........
     
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    Khalid Kurasani who he mentioned got treated in India, he is the same person who was the mastermind of all major terrorist attacks in Pakistan, including the APS.

    Any doubt left that it was India which was the sponsor of APS attack as well?